Connacht Rugby Thread - Part III - The Violence of the Lams

connachta · 19-12-2016 2:43pm

FACECUTTR wrote: »

Everdene wrote: »

Carey on crutches with foot in boot after.

Would be standard enough until he gets a scan and sees a specialist. Probably won't find out until later in the week about the results.

worrying thing is he couldn't even put the foot on the ground when he walked off.
We're short for props, time for Pat to prove he was right to bet on Robertson-McCoy

b.gud · 19-12-2016 3:07pm

Squad update

Conor Carey sustained an injury to his foot in the Wasps game and is awaiting the results of a scan to determine the extent of the injury.

Dominic Robertson McCoy sustained a shoulder injury in training last week and is awaking the results of a scan to determine the extent of the injury.

Jake Heenan sustained knee and ankle injuries in the round 3 game v Wasps and is continuing his rehabilitation under the supervision of the medical and fitness team. It is hoped that he will be available for selection next week.

Stacey Ili sustained ankle injuries in the game vs Wasps and will be unavailable for up to 6 weeks.

Ulster v Connacht
Friday December 23rd
Kingspan Stadium
Kick off 7:35pm

Robbo · 19-12-2016 3:15pm

b.gud · 19-12-2016 3:19pm

Robbo wrote: »

I'd expect Cooney, Robb and Loughney to feature over the Chistmas. Heenan won't be rushed back unless he's 100%.

Not sure about Robb but at the half time interview on Saturday Cooney said he hoped to be back for this weeks match

ClanofLams · 19-12-2016 3:29pm

We could be really short in the front row this week if the Ireland camp takes bealham out of contention. I assume it will affect Dillane and our back three also.

connachta · 19-12-2016 3:38pm

b.gud wrote: »

Robbo wrote: »

I'd expect Cooney, Robb and Loughney to feature over the Chistmas. Heenan won't be rushed back unless he's 100%.

Not sure about Robb but at the half time interview on Saturday Cooney said he hoped to be back for this weeks match

Robbo wrote: »

The Archives of Pain, Week 15. New information in bold.

Player|Injury|Date of Injury|Expected Return
Marnitz Boshoff|Shoulder - Surgery|Treviso (H)|March
Jake Heenan|Knee/Ankle|Wasps (A)|Rehab - Possibly back for Ulster
Conor Carey|Ankle|Wasps (H)|Scan Results Pending
Dominic Robertson-McCoy|Shoulder|Training - Pre Wasps (H)|Scan Results Pending
Ronan Loughney|Knee|Training|Rehab
John Cooney|Thigh|Training - Pre Wasps(H)|Rehab
Stacey Ili|Ankle|Wasps (A)|February
Cian Kelleher|Hamstring|Wasps (A)|Mid-January
Peter Robb|Thigh|Training - Pre Wasps (A)|Rehab
Craig Ronaldson|Thigh|Cardiff (H)|Mid-January
Andrew Browne|Ankle-Surgery|Dragons (A)|February
Rory Moloney|Concussion|AIL|Protocols
Shane O'Leary|Concussion|Training|Protocols
Eoin Griffin|Chest|AIL (Early November)|March
Ivan Soroka|Foot|AIL|Mid January
Josh Rowland|Ankle - Surgery|Unknown|January
Ben Marshall|Concussion|Last Season|Unknown
Eoghan Masterson|Knee|Last Season|December
Darragh Leader|Hand|Pre-Season|February

Looks like we have a propping crisis looming. Tom may well have to cover LH again. Officially 19 players injured.

I'd expect Cooney, Robb and Loughney to feature over the Chistmas. Heenan won't be rushed back unless he's 100%.

Heenan back is great, maybe the best player in the province. But we're full of available back-rows. At least Muldoon, who played nearly every minutes this season, could have a rest, and SOB focused on 2nd row where we're lighter
McCoy + Carey out in the same time could be a disaster. Bealham to play 80 min against Ulster, Munster and Toulouse

connachta · 19-12-2016 3:46pm

ClanofLams wrote: »

We could be really short in the front row this week if the Ireland camp takes bealham out of contention. I assume it will affect Dillane and our back three also.

Cannon/SOB are enough, Healy/Poolman/Parata (with Robb 12) too
Bealham just can't be rested, we have no TH left, IRFU must understand

Diabhal Beag · 19-12-2016 4:05pm

Everdene wrote: »

Watched the IREvNZE (the second) there, busy pub good atmosphere

Hopefully they'll show it. Think it's only on TG4 so might be difficult for them to swing it. Fired off an email just to see.

Bazzo · 19-12-2016 5:09pm

Ah FFS, who ends up with 19 injured players twice in a season before Christmas?

b.gud · 19-12-2016 5:16pm

Robbo wrote: »

The Archives of Pain, Week 15. New information in bold.

Player|Injury|Date of Injury|Expected Return
Marnitz Boshoff|Shoulder - Surgery|Treviso (H)|March
Jake Heenan|Knee/Ankle|Wasps (A)|Rehab - Possibly back for Ulster
Conor Carey|Ankle|Wasps (H)|Scan Results Pending
Dominic Robertson-McCoy|Shoulder|Training - Pre Wasps (H)|Scan Results Pending
Ronan Loughney|Knee|Training|Rehab
John Cooney|Thigh|Training - Pre Wasps(H)|Rehab
Stacey Ili|Ankle|Wasps (A)|February
Cian Kelleher|Hamstring|Wasps (A)|Mid-January
Peter Robb|Thigh|Training - Pre Wasps (A)|Rehab
Craig Ronaldson|Thigh|Cardiff (H)|Mid-January
Andrew Browne|Ankle-Surgery|Dragons (A)|February
Rory Moloney|Concussion|AIL|Protocols
Shane O'Leary|Concussion|Training|Protocols
Eoin Griffin|Chest|AIL (Early November)|March
Ivan Soroka|Foot|AIL|Mid January
Josh Rowland|Ankle - Surgery|Unknown|January
Ben Marshall|Concussion|Last Season|Unknown
Eoghan Masterson|Knee|Last Season|December
Darragh Leader|Hand|Pre-Season|February

Looks like we have a propping crisis looming. Tom may well have to cover LH again. Officially 19 players injured.

I'd expect Cooney, Robb and Loughney to feature over the Chistmas. Heenan won't be rushed back unless he's 100%.

Rory Moloney played for the Eagles at the weekend so he can probably be taken off that list, wohoo only 18 players injured

connachta · 19-12-2016 5:18pm

b.gud wrote: »

Robbo wrote: »

The Archives of Pain, Week 15. New information in bold.

Player|Injury|Date of Injury|Expected Return
Marnitz Boshoff|Shoulder - Surgery|Treviso (H)|March
Jake Heenan|Knee/Ankle|Wasps (A)|Rehab - Possibly back for Ulster
Conor Carey|Ankle|Wasps (H)|Scan Results Pending
Dominic Robertson-McCoy|Shoulder|Training - Pre Wasps (H)|Scan Results Pending
Ronan Loughney|Knee|Training|Rehab
John Cooney|Thigh|Training - Pre Wasps(H)|Rehab
Stacey Ili|Ankle|Wasps (A)|February
Cian Kelleher|Hamstring|Wasps (A)|Mid-January
Peter Robb|Thigh|Training - Pre Wasps (A)|Rehab
Craig Ronaldson|Thigh|Cardiff (H)|Mid-January
Andrew Browne|Ankle-Surgery|Dragons (A)|February
Rory Moloney|Concussion|AIL|Protocols
Shane O'Leary|Concussion|Training|Protocols
Eoin Griffin|Chest|AIL (Early November)|March
Ivan Soroka|Foot|AIL|Mid January
Josh Rowland|Ankle - Surgery|Unknown|January
Ben Marshall|Concussion|Last Season|Unknown
Eoghan Masterson|Knee|Last Season|December
Darragh Leader|Hand|Pre-Season|February

Looks like we have a propping crisis looming. Tom may well have to cover LH again. Officially 19 players injured.

I'd expect Cooney, Robb and Loughney to feature over the Chistmas. Heenan won't be rushed back unless he's 100%.

Rory Moloney played for the Eagles at the weekend so he can probably be taken off that list, wohoo only 18 players injured

Moloney is a flanker
We have smth like 25 players available, among them 8 or 9 are back-row players...

MarinersBlues · 19-12-2016 5:21pm

connachta wrote: »

b.gud wrote: »

Rory Moloney played for the Eagles at the weekend so he can probably be taken off that list, wohoo only 18 players injured

Moloney is a flanker
We have smth like 25 players available, among them 8 or 9 are back-row players...

Yeah, put Moloney back on the list we don't need him. Take Ronaldson off it instead.

Robbo · 19-12-2016 5:33pm

b.gud wrote: »

Rory Moloney played for the Eagles at the weekend so he can probably be taken off that list, wohoo only 18 players injured

Noted and edited.

connachta · 19-12-2016 5:55pm

MarinersBlues wrote: »

connachta wrote: »

b.gud wrote: »

Rory Moloney played for the Eagles at the weekend so he can probably be taken off that list, wohoo only 18 players injured

Moloney is a flanker
We have smth like 25 players available, among them 8 or 9 are back-row players...

Yeah, put Moloney back on the list we don't need him. Take Ronaldson off it instead.

At least Ronaldson is expected to be back for Toulouse away, which is a huge relief to cover 10 and kicks

macslash · 19-12-2016 11:29pm

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Life or death question lads: Is there any pub in Berlin that would definitely show the Munster match? Don't mind paying in to see it.

Same question but for Brussels!

FACECUTTR · 19-12-2016 11:49pm

macslash wrote: »

Same question but for Brussels!

The 6 Nations pub. Watched a few games there a year or so ago.

oneofakind32 · 20-12-2016 4:24am

Lads, we have to get John Cooney playing at 10 ASAP. Carty just isn't at Champions Cup standard....
Oh no, wait, sorry! That was last week. On boards.ie, as at the Sportsground, the wind can change very quickly.

connachta · 20-12-2016 9:16am

Not in the list. Always, always said carty was ok at 10 and could even resist to Boshoff, but that we need another kicker. Won't change any point of that (despite wonderful conversions and some mistakes in open-play), and I'm happy Cooney/Ronaldson aren't far to be back, to play beside him (9 and 12)

20-12-2016 9:58am

As much as I like Cooney, and I really do, Marmion played out of skin in the two games against Wasps, and can't be dropped currently

connachta · 20-12-2016 10:06am

Deleted User wrote: »

As much as I like Cooney, and I really do, Marmion played out of skin in the two games against Wasps, and can't be dropped currently

Yeah Marmion quality is a big issue for our kicking to the posts
Problem solved in 4 weeks when Ronaldson is back!

b.gud · 20-12-2016 10:39am

connachta wrote: »

Yeah Marmion quality is a big issue for our kicking to the posts
Problem solved in 4 weeks when Ronaldson is back!

At what point is Cartys kicking no longer an issue? He was 3 from 4 at the weekend including 2 touchline conversions, one under HUGE pressure, and as I posted yesterday he has been doing lots of work with kicking coaches and identified what was wrong with his kicking style and moved to fix it. I'm not saying that suddenly he's gonna be a 90% kicker but I think he deserves a bit more respect from us after his kicking performance on Saturday.

b.gud · 20-12-2016 10:48am

https://twitter.com/JohnMuldoon8/status/811135212344197120

former total · 20-12-2016 10:57am

b.gud wrote: »

At what point is Cartys kicking no longer an issue? He was 3 from 4 at the weekend including 2 touchline conversions, one under HUGE pressure, and as I posted yesterday he has been doing lots of work with kicking coaches and identified what was wrong with his kicking style and moved to fix it. I'm not saying that suddenly he's gonna be a 90% kicker but I think he deserves a bit more respect from us after his kicking performance on Saturday.

In fairness, his rep as a bad kicker was not earned on the basis of one game and it cannot be erased on the basis of one game either.

His stats flashed up on the screen at one point on Saturday, and correct me if I'm wrong, but he was 55% in the Pro12 and 45% in Champions Cup (or thereabouts). That's absolutely woeful.

Fair play if it has been identified and steps are being taken to make him better but he is not there yet.

b.gud · 20-12-2016 11:15am

former total wrote: »

In fairness, his rep as a bad kicker was not earned on the basis of one game and it cannot be erased on the basis of one game either.

His stats flashed up on the screen at one point on Saturday, and correct me if I'm wrong, but he was 55% in the Pro12 and 45% in Champions Cup (or thereabouts). That's absolutely woeful.

Fair play if it has been identified and steps are being taken to make him better but he is not there yet.

Yep absolutely, that's why in my initial post I said he's not suddenly gonna become a 90% kicker. But if a couple of days after one of his best kicking performances doesn't mean we should still be knocking him about his kicking.

Personally I think posts should be a bit more tempered in relation to his kicking. My view is that his kicking has been bad but that he's working on it and he showed that he can nail them on Saturday so we should be cautiously optimistic about it. But if he doesn't keep kicking on, no pun intended, I'll be the first to say lets hand the tee over to Ronaldson when he's back

ClanofLams · 20-12-2016 11:47am

7 Connacht lads in 40 man Irish u20s squad for warmup games this/next week.

Shane O'Hehir hooker
Cillian Gallagher 2nd row
Sean Masterson & Simon Meagher backrow
Ryan Feehily scrumhalf
Luke Carty outhalf
Colm De Buitlear winger

They're obviously doing something well in Sligo, another 3 in the list above with Gallagher the only survivor from last years quartet.

thomond2006 · 20-12-2016 12:42pm

More good news for Connacht. Buckley, Roux and Carty all sign 2 year extensions.

http://www.connachtrugby.ie/three-more-senior-players-sign-on-for-future/#ConnachtNews

b.gud · 20-12-2016 12:43pm

Buckley, Carty and Roux all sign 2 year extensions

ClanofLams · 20-12-2016 12:46pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

More good news for Connacht. Buckley, Roux and Carty all sign 2 year extensions.

http://www.connachtrugby.ie/three-more-senior-players-sign-on-for-future/#ConnachtNews

Brilliant. Buckley & Roux in particular would have offers. That's the spine of the squad secured until 2019.

testtech05 · 20-12-2016 12:51pm

Excellent news!!!

Bazzo · 20-12-2016 1:06pm

Yes!!!

Connacht Rugby Thread - Part III - The Violence of the Lams

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