New Aldi Planning in Dunshaughlin

bladespin

Dubh Geannain wrote:

I'm going to hazard a guess that when planning is eventually granted it will be appealed to An Bord Pleanala. Similar to Aldi in Trim. Just a guess mind.

ABP seems to be one of the biggest jokes going, 'questionable decisions' is an understatement and they wonder why people suggest the brown envelope culture is still around.

Galego

CUCINA wrote: »

Seems to be going in the right direction...but what does "PUBLICATION REQUIRED" mean?
Anyway, as before, fingers crossed.

It means that Aldi has made significant changes to their original application and therefore they need to publish a notice in the local newspaper, site notice, etc

Galego

Aldi Trim store going ahead....


http://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/roundup/articles/2016/05/13/4119730-decision-on-trim-aldi-store-/#sthash.B3PnIsm0.1HhibNAM.dpuf

ibarelycare

Where exactly is the new Applegreen going?

Edit: Nvm, found the map!

Galego

Decision has now been made. :-)

It appears as granted with 28 conditions.

Appeal now coming?

By the way, apple green decision was appealed by Topaz.

CUCINA

Following on from a query I made to Regina Doherty, she has replied that planning permission was granted this morning to Aldi for the store in Dunshaughlin. Good news indeed.
By the way, I have to say I am very impressed with the prompt and efficient replies from Regina's office in relation to this query. Ten out of ten!

andreac

Great news!! Wonder when it will be open now. How long would it usually take from permission being granted to opening?

Galego

andreac wrote: »

Great news!! Wonder when it will be open now. How long would it usually take from permission being granted to opening?

Will depend on whether or not the decision gets appealled, which it is likely to be.

maik3n

It was expected of course and there is no guarantee it will be upheld but it's still another delay.

http://www.facebook.com/dunsalert/posts/367063200084666

CUCINA

maik3n wrote: »

It was expected of course and there is no guarantee it will be upheld but it's still another delay.

http://www.facebook.com/dunsalert/posts/367063200084666

So the trail of red tape continues, next decision-stop is November, according to the article in this week's "Meath Chronicle".
The ALDI head honchos in Germany must be raising their eyes to Heaven wondering what sort of little insular island this is in trying to get a job-creating enterprise moving.
The longer this drags on, the more I dislike (polite word!) Supervalue...
"Supervalue" ...what a misnomer.

bladespin

CUCINA wrote: »

The longer this drags on, the more I dislike (polite word!) Supervalue...
"Supervalue" ...what a misnomer.

Believe me this sort of tripe is why they will never see a red cent from me.

Galego

Aldi had already planned on starting next year anyway as they were already expecting the appeal.
Anyway the appeal has no facts or backup and has already been rejected by Co Meath so Supervalu.

It is the repeat story that the Aldi in Trim.

Gonzo

not a bit surprised, Supervalu blocks/objects everything that comes near the village.

Most people I know drive to Clonee or Ashbourne to shop in Lidl/Aldi, many save close to 100 euros per month compared to shopping at Supervalu.

maik3n

It may or may not be a good sign but one of these counters/trackers was put in along the road, outside the euro shop during the week?



Perhaps they are checking traffic flow for the new ALDI store. :cool:
Then again, maybe it's just a random check up by the NRA.

Bussywussy

There's also those NRA counters on the way into ratoath from N2/Ashbourne so it's prob nothing to do with Aldi etc

Maysa07

Anyone here anything about a Lidl going at the back of Bannon Auctioneers somewhere?
Just heard it last weekend.

bladespin

Just outside Trim too.

Galego

Maysa07 wrote: »

Anyone here anything about a Lidl going at the back of Bannon Auctioneers somewhere?
Just heard it last weekend.

Thought that talk was about a Tesco Express around 2013 which never materialised.......

Maysa07

Galego wrote: »

Thought that talk was about a Tesco Express around 2013 which never materialised.......

Yes, there was plenty of talk over the years about all sorts of shops getting build in that location. A friend who attended the local Chamber heard about Lidl rumour.

Galego

Maysa07 wrote: »

Galego wrote: »

Thought that talk was about a Tesco Express around 2013 which never materialised.......

Yes, there was plenty of talk over the years about all sorts of shops getting build in that location. A friend who attended the local Chamber heard about Lidl rumour.

They had an application withdrawn back in 2007.
http://www.eplanning.ie/MeathCC/AppFileRefDetails/DA60589/0
I couldnt see the town being able to hold SuperValu, Aldi and Lidl, right? No enough population I'd think.....

Galego

Has anyone heard anything?

Decision is due today according to the An Bord Pleanala.

Maysa07

Galego wrote: »

Has anyone heard anything?

Decision is due today according to the An Bord Pleanala.

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/246830.htm

Case is due to be decided by 27-11-2016

maik3n

They granted permission originally with 23 conditions and they took on board but ultimately rejected the further objections from Express check out.
So we should hopefully *expect it to go through.

*Mind you, most people thought Trump would lose so anything is possible. :P

Galego

Maysa07 wrote: »

Anyone here anything about a Lidl going at the back of Bannon Auctioneers somewhere?
Just heard it last weekend.

Lidl bought that site.........so yes your friend heard the right thing. :-)

CUCINA

Isn't today decision day re the Planning Board re Aldi?

Anyone heard anything?

Galego

CUCINA wrote: »

Isn't today decision day re the Planning Board re Aldi?

Anyone heard anything?

Yes today according to the website.

Status: Case is due to be decided by 28-11-2016

maik3n

hehe, we have a large group of sheep in the field at the moment, lol.
Hopefully they are helping out with some Natural grass cutting in preparation for the proper building works?

Maysa07

It's due "by close of business today" , fingers crossed.

Galego

Can anyone confirm whether what I read is correct?

I read somewhere, dated back to 2010, that Aldi had purchased that site back then.

Do they already own the site?

Gonzo

Galego wrote: »

Can anyone confirm whether what I read is correct?

I read somewhere, dated back to 2010, that Aldi had purchased that site back then.

Do they already own the site?

I heard back in 2010 that Lidl tried to build in Dunshaughlin near the industrial estate and with plenty of Supervalu objections it got turned down. Looks like Lidl are going to try for a second time near Bannon's, beside the bus stop. Let's see how that works out.

If todays appeal fails then I guess Dunshaughlin is a lost cause for any supermarket trying to enter the town. Finger's crossed the County Council see's the light and stop's these stupid objections from Supervalu which has held development back in Dunshaughlin for almost 20 years.

Idbatterim

If todays appeal fails then I guess Dunshaughlin is a lost cause for any supermarket trying to enter the town. Finger's crossed the County Council see's the light and stop's these stupid objections from Supervalu which has held development back in Dunshaughlin for almost 20 years.

get the local councilors onto it, if it gets refused permission again...

Galego

Decision has come and apparently has been refused! :-(
I should have bought my house somewhere else.....

tara83

Galego wrote: »

Decision has come and apparently has been refused! :-(
I should have bought my house somewhere else.....

Where did you hear that? All I can see on the Bord Pleanala website is that it's been decided but outcome not out until tomorrow. So annoyed if it's refused. The village needs an alternative to Supervalu and would be good for bringing people back into the village to shop

Galego

I saw it here....but I am not sure where they heard it from themselves....
https://www.facebook.com/dunsalert/

andreac

Galego wrote: »

Decision has come and apparently has been refused! :-(
I should have bought my house somewhere else.....

Absolute joke!! That Super Valu is an absolute rip off. Ill be taking my business elsewhere from now. :mad::mad:

Idbatterim

Decision can be appealed to abp?

tara83

Idbatterim wrote: »

Decision can be appealed to abp?

That's the stage it's at

Galego

It is hard to believe that investments are being turned down in a town which has 75% of units emptied in the main street......gutted with this decision.

CUCINA

Outraged and disgusted with this decision...if it is true that the application has failed.
No more polite words, I HATE Supervalue and I am vowing never to spend another cent in that place.

Bad, bad news for Dunshaughlin in general...

What to do now...I feel like picketing outside SV, or doing something just short of illegal as a protest. Any suggestions?

Galego

I wrote to Thomas Byrne. Can we all do it so put some pressure on our TD?
Apparently, turned down on the basis of access........

Idbatterim

What is the reason for refusal? Just do a large weekly shop somewhere else. Supervalu is rip off. Buy only the essentials like milk there ...

tara83

Idbatterim wrote: »

What is the reason for refusal? Just do a large weekly shop somewhere else. Supervalu is rip off. Buy only the essentials like milk there ...

I try to do this majority of the time but it would be so handy to have choice at your doorstep. Every time you go to elsewhere the village stores lose out I.e. you might pick up something in a pharmacy etc

Gonzo

not surprised. Supervalue have huge power in Dunshaughlin, they are the reason Dunshaughlin is a ghost town, why there is no investment, no development. Supervalue have held off Aldi, Lidl and Tesco from coming near here and have tried to put other local business's out of business. Lidl have bought a site near the bus stop, they may as well sell it because they ain't going to get planning with Supervalu and their friends stopping everything. Dunshaughlin is a lost cause at this stage, thankfully most people who have sense and who care about the cost of things shop elsewhere in Clonee and Ashbourne and looks like that's the way it's gonna stay. Writing to TD's won't solve anything.

road_high

Super Valu do this all-over the country. Town near me was due a Tesco store, plans advanced, planning permission given etc- Super Valu appealed to ABP and got it overturned. I'd imagine they do this everywhere, especially in the smaller towns as they'd have a stronger case to object.

Gonzo

road_high wrote: »

Super Valu do this all-over the country. Town near me was due a Tesco store, plans advanced, planning permission given etc- Super Valu appealed to ABP and got it overturned. I'd imagine they do this everywhere, especially in the smaller towns as they'd have a stronger case to object.

It's ridiculous tho they put in bs objections such as road access, disturbing nature/cutting down oak trees. Every time they give some sort of objection and win every-time. It's really bad for the local community and cut's off development of a town which is 50% shut down. Everybody knows they are doing this just to protect local interests, stopping competition should be illegal.

KERSPLAT!

Where is the site as a matter of interest? Not hugely familiar with Dunshaughlin or at least the shop names.

Gonzo

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Where is the site as a matter of interest? Not hugely familiar with Dunshaughlin or at least the shop names.

The site was beside Maddens, a large field with some oak tree's and sheep. Junction of Lagore Road and main road.

KERSPLAT!

Ah yeah. I know it. Entrance from the Lagore side? Or the entrance at the bus stop?

Gonzo

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Ah yeah. I know it. Entrance from the Lagore side? Or the entrance at the bus stop?

entrance from lagore side. Wide enough road, decent access. Was a decent location and would have provided at least 40 extra jobs for the town and brought people back from grocery shopping in all the other towns. Supervalu may have even gained new customers by having more business in the town, but I guess they can't see past the money in the till.

CUCINA

Galego wrote: »

Decision has come and apparently has been refused! :-(
I should have bought my house somewhere else.....

I feel your pain...I was just thinking what a buzz there would have been if the news was that the application had been accepted.
Had a look at the "Dunsalert" page on Facebook, about 80 comments today about this decision, 95% saying how disgusted they are...