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Season 6 | Episode 6 | Always Accountable [AMC] [SPOILERS]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    A guy Austin Amelio is rumoured to be appearing as
    Dwight.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭clever user name


    7
    Enjoyed that episode, better than last week.

    It's literally impossible to dislike Daryl, hope he finds those two idiots and gives them a slap. He has no bike or crossbow now :(

    Looking forward to the last 2 episodes.

    Edit: Also, was that Glenns voice on the walkie Talkie? Sounded a bit someone asking for help but not wanting to speak to loud, like someone stuck under a big wheelie bin :pac: . http://vocaroo.com/i/s0UPHMhO77CX


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,864 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


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    An episode that essentially just showed that Daryl, Sasha and Abraham got a bit delayed on their return to Alexandria. It ticked a few of the cliche boxes too.

    1. Introduce some characters.
    2. Have at least one of them die a terrible unbelievable death.
    3. Show them afraid to trust.

    I'm almost surprised the last scene was them being eaten as Daryl collected his bike and crossbow from nearby with him saying "I told ya you'd be sorry".

    Every episode doesn't have to be balls to the wall of course, but nothing happened there essentially, except for the fact that a new group we know nothing about featured. They may feature in future episodes, but they may not. We don't know if the group has a name, where they are or how many of them. If they are going to be important they should have given some more details. Not really a spoiler, but tangentially mentions comic stuff:
    The fact they didn't really show faces makes me think they might be part of a group from the comics, but I think they'd have said a bit more if they were. the man with one arm is the only way we'll know, aside from Daryl saying so I guess. They could be them, but I'd be disappointed if so the way it was done.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    3
    This felt like a bit of a non-episode. At least the Morgan-centric episode was interesting, well written, and well acted, this was just.. a bit plodding. Pretty much just a filler and stuff that will only become interesting in a few weeks time when you realize the meaning of some stuff.. "Oh the figurine was of the guy that they're hunting" or some such (I have no idea if that's the case, it's just a wild assumption).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


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    Without spoiling future episodes this episode was very important in introducing a new group that will feature in later episodes as they have done in the comic series


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭LandoCalrissian


    I really enjoyed that episode

    If nothing it had me thinking "oh no don't let this happen" and "well I hope that fcuker dies"

    something that was missing from the last few

    But yes hearing that over the Walkie Talkie I immediately thought of our favourite Korean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭clever user name


    7
    ricero wrote: »
    Without spoiling future episodes this episode was very important in introducing a new group that will feature in later episodes as they have done in the comic series

    Yeah this is why I liked it! Not an awful lot happened in fairness, but I never found myself getting bored (like last week).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    ricero wrote: »
    Without spoiling future episodes this episode was very important in introducing a new group that will feature in later episodes as they have done in the comic series

    Yeah I only found out after who the guy that robbed Daryl's bike and crossbow is. Was his name mentioned by either of the girls?

    Decent episode. We needed more of Daryl and we got it. But when the blond girl ran over to her dead friends and knelt down beside them I just kind of shrugged and thought 'ah it's the winner of the stupid character of the week award'. Why does the show continually do this? It's the worst aspect of it and lets it down very badly.

    Presumably we're now up to date with everyone's story so far so I would imagine we'll surely find out Glenn's fate in the next one right? Right?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    So, again, I'm gonna disagree and say there was actually a lot in this episode.

    Firstly, it introduces people from
    Negan's
    group. You don't have to know the comics to know that the introduction of these new people is important. The people the trio are running from are obviously evil. We know this from their behaviour and the behaviour of the trio running from them.

    The man, (Comic
    Dwight, for those reading the comics
    ) said that they've been there since the start and still don't know everyone. How big must that group be for that to be true? A huge threat must be on the horizon.

    Daryl got to know these people and even asked them the questions. And then got stabbed in the back. Since around the midpoint of Season 5, Daryl has been terribly conflicted about the path himself and Rick are on. He's finally started to come out from Rick's shadow, believing that he may know better; that Rick's ways may finally be outdated; that they can finally get back on track and trust others and live and let live. And so he trusts these people, having asked the questions that his group have been basing their moral judgements around for several years now. And it kicks him in the ass. This episode is a definite turning point for Daryl, I reckon. Turning him back on the path of distrust. It's knocked him back a good bit.

    The less interesting stuff was the Abraham/Sasha budding love. I find this uninteresting because Sasha is completely unlikeable. I hope she dies quite soon.

    Also, looks like Glenn is alive. In what condition, who knows... But I'll enjoy an episode about Daryl saving Glenn alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow



    The less interesting stuff was the Abraham/Sasha budding love. I find this uninteresting because Sasha is completely unlikeable. I hope she dies quite soon.
    They don't look like a couple at all. He's more suited to the other one. Is he going to have two girlfriends now or is the other one just FWB? Things could get awkward :pac:


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    3
    See... I didn't actually get any evil vibe from the group and was actually expecting them to be good in the end. It kind of felt like it required knowledge of the comics to fully understand that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Never read the comics (well read the first few), but assume that group is
    Negan
    . The refusal to show a face has me assuming it's someone big anyway and that's the next option.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    7
    I thought it was a very good episode. New characters and new sinister group, who are only up the road from Alexandria. I thought the help could be the two people who took Darryls bike and crossbow. Did they also get his walkie talkie?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    They don't look like a couple at all. He's more suited to the other one. Is he going to have two girlfriends now or is the other one just FWB? Things could get awkward :pac:

    Nah, Sasha told him he had to get some stuff right; she was talking about dumping Rosita.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭rayfitzharris


    I didn't get too evil a vibe from the new group, did the leader not say something about letting them go that they were only going to take things so far? Also he complains about the cost of the fuel which I though was quiet funny.

    Perhaps the have somewhat of a semi successful society where resources have to be earned and accounted for..
    Although I think we'very seen bad omens about where that can go with the whole hospital storyline...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    I have mixed feelings about this episode. Certainly an improvement on last week, which I thought was poor (and not just because it was slower paced, as anyone who expressed disappointment towards seemed to be accused of).

    I enjoyed Daryll's role in the episode and the situation he found himself in, and like most comic readers
    I assume that the group they were running from was the Saviours
    . That said, I found the whole Abraham/Sasha part of the episode awful, full of cringey monologues that had pretensions of being clever but came off as non-sensical. I really, really dislike Sasha, more than I ever did the much-maligned Andrea.

    One other gripe I had was poorly executed deaths between the guy in the woods and in particular the girl. The latter looked like something out of a dodgy B-movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


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    I think the implication of the new group being bad was handled subtly. But they did say people trade Everythign to be safe. Which implies if you don't have anything to trade, you are ditched. They stole the insulin as they felt they paid for it somehow, yet they were being tracked down for it. Also I thought them owing for the fuel and time of the men was sinister. Like Beth in the police hospital place. You owe more than you could possibly repay.

    Thought it was a little slow, but I like darryl a lot and I think it started the ball rolling in some strong new themes. I did the subtitle trick on iTunes but the 'help' just said ' man on walkie' beside it :(


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,864 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    4
    Thought it was a little slow, but I like darryl a lot and I think it started the ball rolling in some strong new themes. I did the subtitle trick on iTunes but the 'help' just said ' man on walkie' beside it :(

    I really don't think that was Glenn, but hopefully we'll find out next week. I haven't watched the trailer and probably won't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    6
    5starpool wrote: »
    I really don't think that was Glenn, but hopefully we'll find out next week. I haven't watched the trailer and probably won't.

    No I never watch trailers! Ruins it for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The Ginger and Sasha didn't interest me but the Daryl storyline was good. I'd really like to know how other countries are handling the whole thing especially those countries with a lack of guns. The Americans seem to be majority assh0les in the Walking Dead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,590 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Sorry but I thought that episode was the worst this season. I know it was a bridging episode to move a new story arc forward (and an important one at that), but I was bored.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    They didn't need to have Daryl immediately find a ****ing lorry.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,864 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    4
    They didn't need to have Daryl immediately find a ****ing lorry.

    And one probably full of fuel too.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    Was it my imagination or did the truck that Daryl find have Patty on the back - was it the truck they were looking for. I thought Patty was a friend of theirs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


    7
    They didn't need to have Daryl immediately find a ****ing lorry.
    5starpool wrote: »
    They didn't need to have Daryl immediately find a ****ing lorry.

    And one probably full of fuel too.

    They must have amazing car and truck batteries in the world of TWD. Vehicles sitting idle for at least several months, and more likely near two years now, just start way too easily if it is convenient for the storyline.
    But I thought this episode was okay. Not the greatest ever but I usually enjoy Daryl focused episodes.

    The way the two characters that got munched on walked into it was a bit lame. Also "walk it off"? How tough are these guys meant to be, that made it sound like he had been stung by nettles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    6
    So sad that Daryl lost his crossbow :(

    Loved seeing more of Daryl, rest of the episode was pretty poor!

    Only 2 episodes left til February :( Hope they're a hell of a lot better and really hope we aren't kept hanging til then to find out Glen's fate.

    Sasha's real name is Sonequa, that is all...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    3
    People have been mentioning this other group - have they been referred to at all in the show?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    1
    Gave it a 2. Very boring and the final scene is just unforgivable jump-the-shark storytelling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    The ginger guy is a pain, hope he dies a horrible death.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    titan18 wrote: »
    Never read the comics (well read the first few), but assume that group is
    Negan
    . The refusal to show a face has me assuming it's someone big anyway and that's the next option.


    I reckon it's the Governor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Thelomen Toblackai


    3
    Gave it 4. Daryl's part was pretty interesting. But it was only half an episode really. The other half the whole Sasha/Abraham part was pointless filler.

    The writing is just horrendous. The girl getting spooked and diving on the walkers was probably the stupidest thing I've seen in the show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭stronglikebull


    1
    Mr E wrote: »
    ... but I was bored.
    I spent most of the episode on Tumblr, more listening to the episode than watching. Pretty much nothing happened until the end - Glenn is alive then. Three whole episodes later to find out he might not have died. That is just crap. Apart from Rick (and Morgan, who took a several season hiatus), he's the only character that's been there since episode 1, and deserves better. Sure, the other characters back stories need to be filled in, and other stuff needs to be said, but they didn't need to drag this out. If he is still alive, then that's a cop out. He was in an unsurviveable situation, surrounded by hundreds of walkers, ain't no coming back from that. If they wanted him alive but in peril, and the viewer not to know what had happened, then they shouldn't have had him fall to the ground in the first place. I'm really pissed off at how they've done this.

    Anyway, this episode was boring. Some good stuff with Daryl, which was great to see as he's been practically invisible in the episodes so far. The trio of new people were a bit strange. How long has the zombie apocalypse been going on now, and still people just walk up to dead bodies with a bunch of flowers in hand like they don't know something is going to happen? That was stupid, and she deserved to get eaten. As for the guy that got his arm removed, again, idiot. If they're supposed to be a menacing group of hard-asses, why so stupid?

    The new group. Nothing in this episode suggests that they're all that bad. I know people that are reading the comic books are all sure it's some ultra-enemy group for Alexandria to deal with, but they had three unarmed people way out numbered and out gunned, and yet they just turned around an left because they weren't worth it? That doesn't exactly scream nazi supergroup to me.

    Some say it's a pivotal moment introducing this new group, well I wasn't blown away by it. When we actually get to see them, and what they have and are capable of, then maybe that will be a pivotal moment. Also, Abraham just happens to find a box of RPG rockets, and the RPG, which just might come in handy if, I don't know, say a nazi supergroup happens to enter the fray...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    First time a diabetic featured in TWD IIRC. Any insulin supplies would be as rare as hen's teeth, it also goes off (loses potency) after a 18-24 months (as does refined fuel), but I guess I shouldn't let science in the way of a good story.

    At least she doesn't have to worry about her next insulin shot! Stupidest way to die, evah!

    Episode was a bit meh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,287 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    "Two dead people covered in sheets? Kneeling down beside them is obviously the best course of action here."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,944 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    6
    No I never watch trailers! Ruins it for me!

    Me too. I don't even know why they show them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    6
    No I never watch trailers! Ruins it for me!

    the trailer for next week is 30 seconds of nothing. It doesnt give anything away really
    although it looks like Ron is going on a shooting mission


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    3
    J. Marston wrote: »
    "Two dead people covered in sheets? Kneeling down beside them is obviously the best course of action here."

    My understanding of that whole scene is that they were covered by the melted plastic/glass/whatever was in the roof, not with sheets..?

    But either way, it was stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    6
    RoryMac wrote: »
    The ginger guy is a pain, hope he dies a horrible death.

    he is a pretty prominent character in the comics. I think with Darryl around though (not an original character) he plays a less significant role.

    They seemed to be building up to something with his alcohol problem so who knows. I guess he is still really bitter regarding what Eugene lied about. Cant blame him for being what Americans refer to as a douche!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    7
    Voted 8 mainly due to the numerous booby shots of the new hot still alive one but, not much in the way of excitment but felt the episode passed much quicker than last weeks although I watched this while having a few drinks on board which may be the reason for my original musing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    6
    I spent most of the episode on Tumblr, more listening to the episode than watching. Pretty much nothing happened until the end - Glenn is alive then. Three whole episodes later to find out he might not have died. That is just crap. Apart from Rick (and Morgan, who took a several season hiatus), he's the only character that's been there since episode 1, and deserves better. Sure, the other characters back stories need to be filled in, and other stuff needs to be said, but they didn't need to drag this out. If he is still alive, then that's a cop out. He was in an unsurviveable situation, surrounded by hundreds of walkers, ain't no coming back from that. If they wanted him alive but in peril, and the viewer not to know what had happened, then they shouldn't have had him fall to the ground in the first place. I'm really pissed off at how they've done this.

    Anyway, this episode was boring. Some good stuff with Daryl, which was great to see as he's been practically invisible in the episodes so far. The trio of new people were a bit strange. How long has the zombie apocalypse been going on now, and still people just walk up to dead bodies with a bunch of flowers in hand like they don't know something is going to happen? That was stupid, and she deserved to get eaten. As for the guy that got his arm removed, again, idiot. If they're supposed to be a menacing group of hard-asses, why so stupid?

    The new group. Nothing in this episode suggests that they're all that bad. I know people that are reading the comic books are all sure it's some ultra-enemy group for Alexandria to deal with, but they had three unarmed people way out numbered and out gunned, and yet they just turned around an left because they weren't worth it? That doesn't exactly scream nazi supergroup to me.

    Some say it's a pivotal moment introducing this new group, well I wasn't blown away by it. When we actually get to see them, and what they have and are capable of, then maybe that will be a pivotal moment. Also, Abraham just happens to find a box of RPG rockets, and the RPG, which just might come in handy if, I don't know, say a nazi supergroup happens to enter the fray...

    I know it was over radio but that really didnt sound like Glenn to me.Much more deep voice than Glenns.

    But if he was in a "bit of bother".. his voice would be different so its more than likely him and the actor has altered his accent a good bit to leave viewers speculating...


    Here is Glenns first words over radio and what we are assuming was him also over radio. very different in my opinion.

    off the wall laughable theory but it sounds more like Nicholas than Glenn so perhaps he has his hands on the radio and is trying to help Glenn while he knows he himself is dead meat (literally)







    it is hard to know what time line they are on though. I got the impression Glenns predicament in the alley occurred much earlier than where Darryl, Sasha and Abraham are now in time so if it is Glenn its him in hiding under the bin youd imagine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭sabhail


    6
    Thought it was OK, gave it a seven. Good to see Daryl again, rapidly becoming the most moral character..

    Liked bit with Sasha and Abraham, tho I've always liked Sasha, think she's far more believable than many characters. Don't get why she's disliked.

    Thought her or Abe were going to die what with their speeches in the office.

    The new characters were interesting if not terribly likable, so far anyway.nasty reminder of hospital system.

    Was wondering if voice on radio was Glenn saying no as Nicholas fell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    6
    Some thoughts just occurred to me

    So the new large group set the forest on fire, because it was riddled with walkers. So how does that truck manage to hide in some bushes and preserve its fuel and battery, while everythign around it burns?
    Also if they've killed a huge amount of walkers these guys are gonna be pissed that the alexandrians just dumped a massive herd on their doorstep. Are they 20 miles away?
    I'm also surprised the other group hadn't salvaged anything. Of importance from that nearby town. Especially with army guys in it.

    I thought the melted greenhouse glass on the walkers was cool, but the girl was clearly an idiot.

    We will see the red head and the girl again, mainly because darryl has to be reunited with his crossbow and he has to give the figurine back.
    I like sasha and I like abe, but the two together are creepy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭sabhail


    6
    Some thoughts just occurred to me

    So the new large group set the forest on fire, because it was riddled with walkers. So how does that truck manage to hide in some bushes and preserve its fuel and battery, while everythign around it burns?
    Also if they've killed a huge amount of walkers these guys are gonna be pissed that the alexandrians just dumped a massive herd on their doorstep. Are they 20 miles away?
    I'm also surprised the other group hadn't salvaged anything. Of importance from that nearby town. Especially with army guys in it.

    I thought the melted greenhouse glass on the walkers was cool, but the girl was clearly an idiot.

    We will see the red head and the girl again, mainly because darryl has to be reunited with his crossbow and he has to give the figurine back.
    I like sasha and I like abe, but the two together are creepy.
    I thought the truck had been hidden there by a friend of the 3 who Daryl met, think they expected to find it earlier but it wasn't where they expected it... Didn't they talk about patty which was the name on truck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    6
    sabhail wrote: »
    I thought the truck had been hidden there by a friend of the 3 who Daryl met, think they expected to find it earlier but it wasn't where they expected it... Didn't they talk about patty which was the name on truck?

    Oh maybe! I wasnt really paying attention when they were talking about their friend. I just saw the burnt motorcycle helmet walker, and presumed the truck had run it down ages ago and then it all burned.

    But your way makes more sense as to why the battery worked, and there was fuel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Rosie Rant


    9
    Darryl lost his crossbow AND his bike, that's like losing his identity!

    I wonder if the new group will turn up and tell Rick's group that they 'owe' them for the truck.

    I hope the voice on the radio is Glenn but I think it sounded a little bit like Eugene.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    6
    Why would Eugene be asking for help though? Makes no sense at all. During the wolf invasion he was helping in surgery and then he wasn't seen at all when the walkers came to Alexandria. It has to be someone we know has a walkie talkie already. Possibly the red head and girl, or Glenn. It's highly u likely to be anyone already in Alexandria is in danger again, and Rick couldn't find a walkie first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭stronglikebull


    1
    sabhail wrote: »
    Was wondering if voice on radio was Glenn saying no as Nicholas fell.

    The voice said "help" though.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    6
    Listened back, unless there was heavy post editing, that was not Glenns voice. I thought it was at first but then I relistened to it and IMO, it sounds nothing like him.

    I think the point is that viewers will think of him first.

    Is this whole season going to be over the course of one week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Why would Eugene be asking for help though? Makes no sense at all. During the wolf invasion he was helping in surgery and then he wasn't seen at all when the walkers came to Alexandria. It has to be someone we know has a walkie talkie already. Possibly the red head and girl, or Glenn. It's highly u likely to be anyone already in Alexandria is in danger again, and Rick couldn't find a walkie first.

    Red head and girl are in the truck?

    My money is on Glenn :)

    Decent ep. I really liked Dwight's introduction, it'll be interesting to see where the hell that RPG Abraham found comes into the story!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭forumuser


    I think the voice at the end was Rick calling for help because the walls are beginning to give in at Alexandria. I don't think the timeline is right for it to be Glenn. And please can we leave comic spoilers/speculation out of it for us TV watchers :(


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