Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

Bannasidhe

Saipanne wrote: »

Mohammed did all the same stuff, buddy.

So did the Inquisition - what's your point?

My name is URL

Stinicker wrote: »

the majority of Israelis are our own kith and kin, white Europeans

I didn't think you'd be able to top this gem, but there you go

Stinicker wrote: »

Russia and Putin are the only last true hope for our people, our race and our way of life

I can't wait to hear what you come out with next!

walshyn93

Very Bored wrote: »

Was Ali himself a racist, hateful nutjob? No.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_HBnc8YNaaQ

RedemptionZ

Very Bored wrote: »

Was Ali himself a racist, hateful nutjob? No.

So if I'm in the 1940s and I know a guy, dead sound who's in the nazi party is it unfair to call him a racist?

Saipanne

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Wraponised small pox, in the right hands

Even worse.

Meet the genome for Ebola.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genomes/GenomesGroup.cgi?taxid=186536

Meet biological 3D printers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_bioprinting


How long before these two items are easy to combine?

c_man

Very Bored wrote: »

Was Ali himself a racist, hateful nutjob? No.

Well considering how in he was with the NoI, yes. It certainly seems so.

Glad he went back on this after seeing various races mixing together when he did the Hajj later in life.

Saipanne

Bannasidhe wrote: »

So did the Inquisition - what's your point?

Wow. Ok.

Who do you think IS are emulating?

Very Bored

Fuhrer wrote: »

Ill make my arguments thanks, I dont need any advice from someone who thinks like you do.

Your point, why it looks to be twisted is because it was so stupid to begin with was that you should look as Zidane as an example of a Muslim. An utterly puerile and worthless statement, what does Islam contribute to Zidane as a footballer? Absolutely nothing, what does Islam contribute to the people who murdered all those innocent people in France last night? Absolutely everything.

No, I said we look at Zidane as an example of a peaceful Muslim. Which he is. I'm watching the match now though so no doubt you think I'll be dead before 90 minutes is up because Zizou will have shot me through my computer screen whilst shouting Allahu Akbar :rolleyes:.

You want to believe that ALL Muslims are evil, and that anyone who doesn't fit in with your view of the world are likewise. Sorry, but the world doesn't work like that.

I don't envy you. It must be difficult to sleep at night surrounded by evil people everywhere.

Anyway, I will give you one last chance...

Explain your ignorant and evil username so that we might be able to take you more seriously because frankly with a moniker like that you just come across as a frightened fascist.

walshyn93

Bannasidhe wrote: »

So did the Inquisition - what's your point?

Jesus wasn't around at the time of the inquisition.

Very Bored

c_man wrote: »

Well considering how in he was with the NoI, yes. It certainly seems so.

Glad he went back on this after seeing various races mixing together when he did the Hajj later in life.

Refusing to go to Vietnam would suggest he was more peaceful than you give him credit for.

Fuhrer

Very Bored wrote: »

No, I said we look at Zidane as an example of a peaceful Muslim. Which he is. I'm watching the match now though so no doubt you think I'll be dead before 90 minutes is up because Zizou will have shot me through my computer screen whilst shouting Allahu Akbar :rolleyes:.

You want to believe that ALL Muslims are evil, and that anyone who doesn't fit in with your view of the world are likewise. Sorry, but the world doesn't work like that.

I don't envy you. It must be difficult to sleep at night surrounded by evil people everywhere.

Anyway, I will give you one last chance...

Explain your ignorant and evil username so that we might be able to take you more seriously because frankly with a moniker like that you just come across as a frightened fascist.

In a further development to your original points utter stupidity, Zidane has pulled out of the game.

IrishTrajan

Pocoyo wrote: »

Without western help i doubt they would their army is too small and so are their nukes a few hundred jets carrying chemical weapons would wipe them off the map the population density would make it even easier. So id envisage mutual destruction.

Israel has the strongest air force in the region, they have tremendous armoured forces and their conscripts number about 500,000.

The Yom Kippur War was the time when Israel came closest to extinction, as the qualitative differences were not that broad. Israel had better aircraft, but the Syrians had better tank optics (including night-vision - something the Israelis lacked).

In total, Israel had around 400,000 soldiers, around 5000 armoured forces (APCs and tanks), and 450 aircraft against 900,000-1,000,000 soldiers, ~7500 armoured forces, 450 combat aircraft and 140 helicopters.

Even with very little in technological difference, Israel was victorious (despite being outnumbered over 2:1). Israel's forces are simply better trained and better motivated than their Arab counterparts.

Pocoyo

''I 'm a Muslim.
Islam is perfect.
But i m not.
If i make a mistake,
Blame me.
Not my Religion!''

Popular anti terror attack tweet from the muslim community trending on twitter... this doesnt exactly reassure me.

Very Bored

Fuhrer wrote: »

If Ali was a follower of the Nation of Islam, he was by definition a racist, anti-Semitic nutjob.

Your username is Fuhrer and you condemn someone else for being anti-semitic... you couldn't make it up... sorry, I found it hard to take you seriously before, now its impossible.

Eoin247

Very Bored wrote: »

Refusing to go to Vietnam would suggest he was more peaceful than you give him credit for.

Flawed logic right there. He doesn't want to go to a foreign country to die fighting some random asians, so therfore he's not violent?

MS1962

Pocoyo wrote: »

''I 'm a Muslim.
Islam is perfect.
But i m not.
If i make a mistake,
Blame me.
Not my Religion!''

Popular anti terror attack tweet from the muslim community trending on twitter... this doesnt exactly reassure me.

Islam is perfect? Is Muhamoud perfect? Really? Do they believe this? We need to keep pressing for an answer to this question!

Fuhrer

Very Bored wrote: »

Refusing to go to Vietnam would suggest he was more peaceful than you give him credit for.

Yeah, Ali didnt come to Vietnam because he was so peaceful. Either that or he didnt go to Vietnam because he was part of a particularly racist and anti-semetic form of Islam that taught that white people are the devil incarnate.

kleefarr

Plane bound for France grounded following suspicious tweet.

Very Bored

Fuhrer wrote: »

In a further development to your original points utter stupidity, Zidane has pulled out of the game.

Stupid? Like having a username like Fuhrer then condemning someone for being anti-semitic you mean??? :rolleyes:

c_man

Very Bored wrote: »

Refusing to go to Vietnam would suggest he was more peaceful than you give him credit for.

Where did I saw anything about his peacefullness?? We were talking about the racist, hateful ideology that he had at the time.

I mean not all racists are militant, that's an unfair generalisation :pac:

Very Bored

Fuhrer wrote: »

Yeah, Ali didnt come to Vietnam because he was so peaceful. Either that or he didnt go to Vietnam because he was part of a particularly racist and anti-semetic form of Islam that taught that white people are the devil incarnate.

Someone with the username Fuhrer condeming other people for being anti-semitic... that's all that comes to mind when I read anything you write now... couldn't make it up.

RedemptionZ

Very Bored wrote: »

Stupid? Like having a username like Fuhrer then condemning someone for being anti-semitic you mean??? :rolleyes:

Is it not just German for leader? In English it's got bad connotations but he might be German or a German speaker?

As far as I know Mein Fuhrer is seen as a bad, but fuhrer is just a normal word.

Cabaal

MS1962 wrote: »

Islam is perfect? Is Muhamoud perfect? Really? Do they believe this? We need to keep pressing for an answer to this question!

Of course they see their god/a prophet as perfect,
A christian see's Jesus in the exact same way,

Fuhrer

Very Bored wrote: »

Stupid? Like having a username like Fuhrer then condemning someone for being anti-semitic you mean??? :rolleyes:

Yes, because thats what that means.


Its funny you should bring up Fascism earlier and your utter revulsion of it, the closest we have in current times to fascism is the Islamic State, yet when people question the ideology behind that you are shocked and outraged.


Pity we cant get some of that shock and outrage towards something that encourages the horror we saw last night.

Dkinn

Pocoyo wrote: »

''I 'm a Muslim.
Islam is perfect.
But i m not.
If i make a mistake,
Blame me.
Not my Religion!''

Popular anti terror attack tweet from the muslim community trending on twitter... this doesnt exactly reassure me.

"I'm muslim, I condemn the attacks and Isis"

A little bit of separation between your regular Muslim and Isis would've been more apt by them, but no, basically what this says is that they recognise that the Muslims last night made a little "mistake"

Penny Tration

kleefarr wrote: »

Plane bound for France grounded following suspicious tweet.

Link?

gormdubhgorm

DrumSteve wrote: »

Just hearing it on newstalk now... Happening in the 10th arrondissement... 3 explosions so far.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203

Please try to be civil but also have a little more patience with your fellow posters as this is a worrying time for all of us.

This is not a worrying time for me at all mod:

1. We live in Ireland
2. We are well down the pecking order of countries that could be attacked
3. We are not a country who is a major player on the world stage
4. We have never invaded any country
5. Would be attackers would struggle to find Ireland on a map

It is like parking your banger of a car between two bigger cars (America and the UK) The would be robber/vandal is more likely to steal or damage one the bigger cars and leave your car alone.

There is more chance of one of "our own" planting a car bomb north or south then a foreign extremist coming here and causing mayhem.

kleefarr

Coming to a town near you..

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/14/exclusive-as-paris-burned-uk-islamists-told-muslims-to-struggle-for-islamic-state-in-unprecedented-islamic-show-of-force/

WTF are these people doing in Europe??

MS1962

Cabaal wrote: »

Of course they see their god as perfect,
A christian see's Jesus in the exact same way,

Islam does not hold Muhamoud as their god. Read what I wrote. This guy set up their religion, claimed to be a prophet, yet was an exceedingly nasty, vindictive man. As a Christian, if I knew the Lord was not a good man... let's just say I would not be a Christian any more. Islam is founded on the man and his supposed revelation, yet if it is the case that he was a nasty SOB, then... where does that leave the believers? How can they continue to wilfully remain in ignorance about him, or refuse to believe the documented history about the man and everything he did, the murders, the massacres, the rapes, child sex abuse, etc...

Facekicking 2 The Future

Pocoyo wrote: »

''I 'm a Muslim.
Islam is perfect.
But i m not.
If i make a mistake,
Blame me.
Not my Religion!''

Popular anti terror attack tweet from the muslim community trending on twitter... this doesnt exactly reassure me.

Muslims everywhere need to condemn the beliefs of terrorists. Not their actions, their core beliefs (which may well be their own). To merely condemn the actions of religious terrorists is disingenuous if you otherwise believe in the same tenets as them. Muslims need to express support for women's rights, atheists, apostates, gays, etc. If they refuse to embrace western values, they stand in passive solidarity with terrorists.