Stetsons and Stilettos

JONJO THE MISER

Great show ye all, on RTE1 now.

endacl

Irish country? No thanks Jonjo.

JONJO THE MISER

endacl wrote: »

Irish country? No thanks Jonjo.

Not just Irish country lots of americania too and some fine lassies at the barn dnce.

Shannon757

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not just Irish country lots of americania too and some fine lassies at the barn dnce.

Darn city folk think they know country:mad:

Shannon757

Wait is that in a slatted house?

JONJO THE MISER

I love cow gurls.

whisky_galore

No thanks. C & W music already infests the airwaves of just about every local radio there is.

JP Liz V1

I wonder did Garth Brooks watch

George White

Watching this.
The faux-American Leitrim promoter reminds me of Niall Toibin in Eat the Peach.

JONJO THE MISER

This show got great ratings,8th most watched show last week with 356 thousand viewers.

Lisha

I can't jive at all.

Lisha

Jays is, Kevin jiving with two lassies at once!

seachto7

Two tone shirts. Disgusting!

somesoldiers

There are some fine looking women doing it, if you can stomach "aye, wee,aye,wee,och"

beertons

I thought it was good. I've too left feet. Very entertaining.

Lisha

Just watching the crystal swing wedding in this niw! It's mental crigey

anewme

I just thought each to their own and wish Dervla and Tim every happiness.

Loved the Tractor convoy!

Thought the Mum came across as extremely vain though.

Lisha

anewme wrote: »

I just thought each to their own and wish Dervla and Tim every happiness.

Loved the Tractor convoy!

Thought the Mum came across as extremely vain though.

Yes it was the mum taking 'its all about me to a new level' that I was amazed by. Dervla and Tim seem very happy and I only hope it stays that way for them .
I hope the mother was just over hamming things firvthecsmeras

Sam Kade

Lisha wrote: »

Yes it was the mum taking 'its all about me to a new level' that I was amazed by. Dervla and Tim seem very happy and I only hope it stays that way for them .
I hope the mother was just over hamming things firvthecsmeras

The mother was only 50 this year, I honestly thought she was way older, closer to 60.

JP Liz V1

Lisha wrote: »

Just watching the crystal swing wedding in this niw! It's mental crigey

The priest was very bubbly


Yvonne Keating aka Mary very vain

Sam Kade

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The priest was very bubbly


Yvonne Keating aka Mary very vain

please explain?

Lisha

Sam Kade wrote: »

please explain?

Crystal swing mammy looks like Yvonne keating's (older) sister. (Especially if you squint a bit)

JP Liz V1

Sam Kade wrote: »

please explain?

Mary the mammy from Crystal Swing looks very like Yvonne the former Mrs. Ronan Keating

Welsh Megaman

Dervla has broken my heart

Sam Kade

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

Dervla has broken my heart

She isn't that great, I could pick way better looking women than her in any town in Ireland.

somesoldiers

Wow yer man has some beautiful daughters

Thargor

Off topic but why was Jonjo The Miser banned does anyone know? He's been around for years.

Lisha

I didn't know that Thargor.. Pity

BuilderPlumber

Just saw the end of this last night before Fair City. Complete absolute drivel. Had to look it up on the paper. Was disgusted to see it was actually a second series of this Stetsons and Stilettos drivel. I remember it from last year and it featured stupid boyband singers trying to sing 'country' and rude festival promoters who do not care about their customers. Is this how poorly RTE think about the payers of TV tax? A complete waste of TV taxpayers' money. Yet I notice there is no new series of Love/Hate or any other proper programmes people actually want to see.

MrBlack93

If she ain't red keep her in the shed

somesoldiers

I thought it was a very touching love affair between the Roscommon lad and his tractor!!

George White

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Just saw the end of this last night before Fair City. Complete absolute drivel. Had to look it up on the paper. Was disgusted to see it was actually a second series of this Stetsons and Stilettos drivel. I remember it from last year and it featured stupid boyband singers trying to sing 'country' and rude festival promoters who do not care about their customers. Is this how poorly RTE think about the payers of TV tax? A complete waste of TV taxpayers' money. Yet I notice there is no new series of Love/Hate or any other proper programmes people actually want to see.

It's a missed opp. There should be a proper documentary about Irish country, think something like BBC 4's Rock Britannia, etc. Chronicling the ups and downs, interviews with various luminaries, singers, producers. I'd watch.
Stetsons and Stilettos is a confused attempt to be culchie TV.

BuilderPlumber

George White wrote: »

It's a missed opp. There should be a proper documentary about Irish country, think something like BBC 4's Rock Britannia, etc. Chronicling the ups and downs, interviews with various luminaries, singers, producers. I'd watch.
Stetsons and Stilettos is a confused attempt to be culchie TV.

Same here. I'd watch a proper documentary detailing the history of Irish country music. Instead, they just want to push these modern singers at us who are imo not even country. There are of course much better singers than those who are famous out there making proper country music.

Stetsons and Stilettos is pushing the poor modern country pop style singers and nothing else. I remember seeing some of it last year and did not like the attitude of that Cowboy Heroes festival organiser from Longford at all. This along with the music was dire.

The main problem I have with this music is it is all RTE and the like will show. They ignore other superior styles of country music. When people come out and say they hate country music with a passion, it is this type of stuff they are talking about. These singers from the likes of Stetsons and Stilettos are caricatures really.

This modern scene should not be equated with the showbands and original Irish country music. Those genres gave us some quality singers like Joe Dolan and Brendan Bowyer who had unique and genuine voices. This modern stuff is full of fake voices and insincere insipid songs with daft lyrics.

George White

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Same here. I'd watch a proper documentary detailing the history of Irish country music. Instead, they just want to push these modern singers at us who are imo not even country. There are of course much better singers than those who are famous out there making proper country music.

Stetsons and Stilettos is pushing the poor modern country pop style singers and nothing else. I remember seeing some of it last year and did not like the attitude of that Cowboy Heroes festival organiser from Longford at all. This along with the music was dire.

The main problem I have with this music is it is all RTE and the like will show. They ignore other superior styles of country music. When people come out and say they hate country music with a passion, it is this type of stuff they are talking about. These singers from the likes of Stetsons and Stilettos are caricatures really.

This modern scene should not be equated with the showbands and original Irish country music. Those genres gave us some quality singers like Joe Dolan and Brendan Bowyer who had unique and genuine voices. This modern stuff is full of fake voices and insincere insipid songs with daft lyrics.

I've written letters to the Indo and the Farmer's Journal to acknowledge that boyfolk is a thing and it's different to country. And they won't budge. And I told them the term originated here on this forum from you, BP.

BuilderPlumber

George White wrote: »

I've written letters to the Indo and the Farmer's Journal to acknowledge that boyfolk is a thing and it's different to country. And they won't budge. And I told them the term originated here on this forum from you, BP.

Boyfolk or whatever one wants to call it is different to country music and should be recognised as such. Ever since these reality talent competitions came into being, I think music has suffered. Them and failed boybands are the cause of all these poor genres of music.

What annoys me about this is everyone knows it is all poor fare (talent shows, boybands and boyfolk) and everyone is always giving out about it and surely those in the media are not listening to these types when they play music. Yet there is no attempt to support something different and the same old tripe is pushed at us during the prime hours on the main channels all the time.

Winners emerge from these talent shows not because they are the best but because they can produce a particular sound. Overhyped bands and singers then get launched and a few years later they try their luck with 'country music'.

I could have tolerated Stetsons and Stilettos as a one off or if it explored other forms of country music. But 2 series of identical fare is not needed at all. It seems TV love making these trashy programmes like this or those things like The Voice of Ireland because they are cheap to make. As long as the gullible will follow them, they can give the 2 fingers to the real majority who don't want these shows at all.

George White

I've written a letter to the production company and RTE claiming they should make a documentary about Irish country music, interviewing various producers, DJs, artists, chronicling from the showbands to today, as my parents want to see country music and its artists not Dymphna from Ballycastle who's divorced but loves jiving.

BuilderPlumber

George White wrote: »

I've written a letter to the production company and RTE claiming they should make a documentary about Irish country music, interviewing various producers, DJs, artists, chronicling from the showbands to today, as my parents want to see country music and its artists not Dymphna from Ballycastle who's divorced but loves jiving.

I'd agree. Better country music makers should be shown as well. The stuff like this Ritchie Remo about tractors is not proper country music and either is this boyfolk stuff from the likes of Lee Matthews. There is more to Irish music than this awful stuff.

Stetsons and Stilettos is cheap reality TV at its worst. I for one have no interest in seeing divorced dancers like this Dymphna from what is when I last checked a foreign country's town.

George White

I told the production company, "the problem is that Stetsons and Stilettos is a series not focused on country. my parents dislike it"

their reply on twitter was " it's a bit of fun for a cold, dark Sunday night, my advice would be not to take it too seriously."
is that Stetsons and Stilettos is a series not focused on country. my parents dislike it

i added it is billed as a look into the world of Irish country.
I replied, "A better subject perhaps would be the weird world of rural Ireland, rather than try to cash in on boyfolk fever."

I also told them on twitter that they should regard boyfolk as its own subgenre of country.
Their reply was, "t's a broad church, sure your one Beyoncé is now a country singer #KeepErCountry".

BuilderPlumber

George White wrote: »

I told the production company, "the problem is that Stetsons and Stilettos is a series not focused on country. my parents dislike it"

their reply on twitter was " it's a bit of fun for a cold, dark Sunday night, my advice would be not to take it too seriously."
is that Stetsons and Stilettos is a series not focused on country. my parents dislike it

i added it is billed as a look into the world of Irish country.
I replied, "A better subject perhaps would be the weird world of rural Ireland, rather than try to cash in on boyfolk fever."

I also told them on twitter that they should regard boyfolk as its own subgenre of country.
Their reply was, "t's a broad church, sure your one Beyoncé is now a country singer #KeepErCountry".

The problem is that this is all they can show and it is a sad reflection on things if RTE cannot show that many decent music shows at all and will have stuff like this on constantly. Good music then suffers as a result of the constant promotion of poor quality acts like Ritchie Remo or Lee Matthews.

There is nothing particularly rural about a lot of these singers and they smack of fakeness and insincerity. A lot of the singers on this Stetsons and Stilettos are much much worse than those who are on Glor Tire or appear on Tubridy's show and the like.

I think that when boybands, Louis Walsh and talent shows took over things went downhill and real music was silenced. Music programmes became vehicles for them and out the window went anything more mature. Sad. Boyfolk or whatever we want to call it is a byproduct of this and the first time that this type of music has broke free of its pop borders.

The problem with the media is they can justify stuff like this as some gullible people will watch it without question. As long as enough tune in they can justify an audience. The music is always associated with dancing and live events too rather than recorded to be enjoyed as music. Take this out of the equation and this scene would be totally shown up for a creator of the worst music ever made in Ireland.

BuilderPlumber

Just heard that this heap of tripe is back for a 3rd series. Come on, RTE. What the hell are you playing at? More bad pop music and reality TV YET again along with all the other shows of the same ilk on already.

George White

I recently discovered this documentary on the showbands, and this is how it should be done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es7wgRWBNDY A documentary like this would be an excellent starting off point.

BuilderPlumber

George White wrote: »

I recently discovered this documentary on the showbands, and this is how it should be done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es7wgRWBNDY A documentary like this would be an excellent starting off point.

That's how it should be done. The media pushing this ex boyband singer and ex talent show contestant stuff and passing it off as 'country music' is wrong and dishonest. Call it pop and be done with it. Yes, there meanwhile exists an audience who want to hear real country music like bluegrass, blues and westernswing/honky tonk and they are NOT getting it. They don't want some boyband singer who is trying to be rural Ireland's answer to Nicky Byrne. Wait until Niall Horan launches his 'country' career. This will be the ultimate one pushed by the media. Surprised it has not happened already.

George White

He's still an international star. When that well dries up, or lose money, a la Shane Filan, he'll go that route.

BuilderPlumber

George White wrote: »

He's still an international star. When that well dries up, or lose money, a la Shane Filan, he'll go that route.

Yes and the Irish media will be there to push him and make a god out of him as usual. It is time to move on from this idolatry of boybands and talent show contestants singing disposable drivel and for real music and singing to get a chance again.

AndrewJRenko

To get back on topic, the thing that amazes me from a Dublin viewpoint is the absence of any embarrassment for the younger folks involved. It's like they are completely blind to just how congenitally uncool this scene is.

Or maybe they just don't give a toss what is cool and what's not, which could be a positive thing perhaps.

George White

The one Carter fan I know who is young is already a mother of three young women and still only 30. It's an escape.

BuilderPlumber

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

To get back on topic, the thing that amazes me from a Dublin viewpoint is the absence of any embarrassment for the younger folks involved. It's like they are completely blind to just how congenitally uncool this scene is.

Or maybe they just don't give a toss what is cool and what's not, which could be a positive thing perhaps.

They don't care what is cool or uncool or who has talent and who hasn't. The media just want to push certain personalities on us. To be in with a better chance in the Irish 'music' scene, you need to be an ex boyband singer or a talent show contestant.

Us the payers of TV tax should have more of a say with how RTE spend our money. Drivel like Stetsons and Stilettos promoting the worst form of music ever made that 99% of people hate is the two fingers to us.

brian_t

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Us the payers of TV tax should have more of a say with how RTE spend our money. Drivel like Stetsons and Stilettos promoting the worst form of music ever made that 99% of people hate is the two fingers to us.

RTE are not going to be influenced by a couple of posters on the internet quoting made-up statistics.

You need to get viewers to stop watching these programmes.

BuilderPlumber

brian_t wrote: »

RTE are not going to be influenced by a couple of posters on the internet quoting made-up statistics.

You need to get viewers to stop watching these programmes.

Every ould programme on TV will get viewers. As long as the same gullible minority tune in, that justifies it. As regards statistics: go ask 1000 people and most will agree that TV has gone to the dogs of late. Too much of this reality stuff. I am sure there are people who cannot get enough of this stuff but it is unfair on the rest of us.

I'd like to sit down and watch a good drama like Love/Hate or a concert by a good singer than a diet of The Voice of Ireland, Room To Improve, Stetsons and Stilettos and Dragons Den. And I am pretty sure there are 100s of 1000s who would back me up.

George White

I told the producers tht the music is not country, and they said, "It's not to be taken seriously, just a bit of fun on a cold dark night." And I was outraged. "Country music isn't "a bit of fun". It's heart and soul put into music.
Might try to get in contact with the production company again, and try to convince them what country music actually is.

roosterman71

A lot of people are getting very hot under the collar about a programme here! Sure most programs on the telly are absolute drivel. And this is no different. Plenty of people like this music, plenty like going to the dances, etc. So why not cater for people that do like it? Not everyone is into the environment (EcoEye), or soaps, or Nationwide, etc, etc.

If it's not your taste, don't watch (except maybe for a bit of cringe!). And mail RTE/whoever asking them to put on programmes for other genres instead of trying to remove one they have done