Guinness to become vegan / vegetarian friendly

JumpShivers

Guinness is about to become vegetarian friendly and stop using a fish by-product known as isinglass.

I really hope this won't drastically or even slightly later the taste of the iconic beverage. It's another foolish step like the introduction of those new pint glasses a few years back.

Is it really worth pandering to the whims of such a small minority of people if it's going to ruin the taste for the majority?

Source:

http://www.her.ie/life/guinness-lovers-rejoice-a-pint-of-the-black-stuff-is-about-to-become-vegan-friendly/262804

Links234

Lemme know when it becomes drinkable /beersnob

So I've been drinking fish all this time? Ewwww.

Eutow

Links234 wrote: »

Lemme know when it becomes drinkable /beersnob

It's drinkable, but it's no Founders.

SEPT 23 1989

Didn't think a vegan would have the strength to lift a pint

ShatterProof

isinglass ???? It's better when out of glass and is in me

Caoimhgh1n

Just because you don't care about the fact animal agriculture is the main cause of global warming, the reason the Amazon is being torn down, why the fish numbers will be almost depleted in 60 years, doesn't mean you should stop the company from making a good decision.

dan1895

Doesnt matter what's in it or what it tastes like. Guinness is all about the marketing and they've got Diageo's big bucks backing them up with that.

FrStone

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

Just because you don't care about the fact animal agriculture is the main cause of global warming, the reason the Amazon is being torn down, why the fish numbers will be almost depleted in 60 years, doesn't mean you should stop the company from making a good decision.

Eugh... I'll be well dead before it has any massive effect on my life. Bring back the original recipe.

Lucena

Guinness has been modified over the years, this Is nothing new. You hardly imagine, OP, that Guinness in 1759 was the same as in 2015?

OU812

Eutow wrote: »

It's drinkable, but it's no Founders.

Is that REALLY that nice? I've picked it up a couple of times to maybe purchase it, but put it back each time.

rubadub

It is used for clearing the beer, only trace amounts would be in it as its discarded with the spent yeast. It does not have much flavour so you will not notice it.

If I was vegan I would avoid beer altogether since a huge amount of insects are typically killed during the harvesting of hops. Other alcoholic drinks would have a lower "death toll" associated with them.

Links234

OU812 wrote: »

Is that REALLY that nice? I've picked it up a couple of times to maybe purchase it, but put it back each time.

Founders Porter is one of the nicest ones out there, it's like drinking dark chocolate, it's so rich.

Gwynplaine

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Didn't think a vegan would have the strength to lift a pint

Fcuking fairies in smelly wooly jumpers.
Will the Guinness still be stinking when they change it? Awful stuff.

Eutow

OU812 wrote: »

Is that REALLY that nice? I've picked it up a couple of times to maybe purchase it, but put it back each time.

I like it, probably not the best stout I've had.

FrStone wrote: »

Eugh... I'll be well dead before it has any massive effect on my life. Bring back the original recipe.

Guinness Foreign Extra Stout is probably closer to the original receipe. I prefer it to the draft / can version.

C.K Dexter Haven

rubadub wrote: »

If I was vegan I would avoid beer altogether since a huge amount of insects are typically killed during the harvesting of hops. Other alcoholic drinks would have a lower "death toll" associated with them.

OMG JOE, that's terrible :eek:

Duggy747

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

Just because you don't care about the fact animal agriculture is the main cause of global warming, the reason the Amazon is being torn down

There's a fair few reasons that deforestation is happening in the Amazon, not just because of animal agriculture, like the increasing production of soybean

Caoimhgh1n

Duggy747 wrote: »

There's a fair few reasons that deforestation is happening in the Amazon, not just because of animal agriculture, like the increasing production of soybean

Animal agriculture is the main one.

diomed

Isinglass
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Isinglass_%28GB%29.jpg

gordongekko

Will they **** off messing with Guinness I love it the way it is.

MadsL

How do you know when a poster is vegan?







They tell us.

Deedsie

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

Just because you don't care about the fact animal agriculture is the main cause of global warming, the reason the Amazon is being torn down, why the fish numbers will be almost depleted in 60 years, doesn't mean you should stop the company from making a good decision.

Well said... Watch Cowspiracy people, interesting viewing

Fr_Dougal

It always amuses me to see vegans drink Coke.

Azalea

MadsL wrote: »

How do you know when a poster is vegan?







They tell us.

Didn't see it on this thread myself.

syklops

Links234 wrote: »

Founders Porter is one of the nicest ones out there, it's like drinking dark chocolate, it's so rich.

Can't stand Dark chocolate. I love my Guiness though.

RWCNT

Eutow wrote: »

Guinness Foreign Extra Stout is probably closer to the original receipe. I prefer it to the draft / can version.

Is that the Nigerian one that's strong as hell? I think there's another kind of foreign extra that's more mellow but that Foreign Extra Stout reigns supreme. So boozy tasting.

Whatever about taking out the fish guts, the worst thing they've done to Guinness to date has to be that "Guinness Ice" on tap or whatever it was called.

Dawn Rider

RWCNT wrote: »

Whatever about taking out the fish guts, the worst thing they've done to Guinness to date has to be that "Guinness Ice" on tap or whatever it was called.

I think the Guinness Ice thing is just a fad to get more people trying it.

About 20 years ago a guy told me that he only ordered the bottles of Guinness in pub's as 'they ruined' the flavour when they chilled it. Porter should be drunk at room temperature apparently.
Real ale drinker's hate cold beer also for that reason. The worse the flavour, the colder it should be...!

whisky_galore

Azalea wrote: »

Didn't see it on this thread myself.

They're easy to spot, they reek of 'holier than thou'.

Digitalmission

No Isinglass is good news!

Caoimhgh1n

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

Just because you don't care about the fact animal agriculture is the main cause of global warming, the reason the Amazon is being torn down, why the fish numbers will be almost depleted in 60 years, doesn't mean you should stop the company from making a good decision.

The main causes of global warming are immigrants and Conradh na Gaeilge.

FACT. END OFF.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Dawn Rider wrote: »

I think the Guinness Ice thing is just a fad to get more people trying it.

About 20 years ago a guy told me that he only ordered the bottles of Guinness in pub's as 'they ruined' the flavour when they chilled it. Porter should be drunk at room temperature apparently.
Real ale drinker's hate cold beer also for that reason. The worse the flavour, the colder it should be...!

I remember my father giving out to me for putting cans of Guinness in the fridge, has to be room temp for him or he won't drink it.

Peanut

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

It always amuses me to see vegans drink Coke.

Urban myth.. although not for Lilt

Are your drinks suitable for vegans and vegetarians?

One eyed Jack

JumpShivers wrote: »

Guinness is about to become vegetarian friendly and stop using a fish by-product known as isinglass.

I really hope this won't drastically or even slightly later the taste of the iconic beverage. It's another foolish step like the introduction of those new pint glasses a few years back.

Is it really worth pandering to the whims of such a small minority of people if it's going to ruin the taste for the majority?

Source:

http://www.her.ie/life/guinness-lovers-rejoice-a-pint-of-the-black-stuff-is-about-to-become-vegan-friendly/262804

Guinness stopped being an iconic beverage when they started fcuking about with the brewing methods and recipe to "appeal to a wider audience". The new recipes and brewing methods have never appealed to a wider audience, so they've had to rely on marketing to try and encourage people to drink their pisswater.

The result is that their sales of Guinness have dropped through the floor, in spite of the last two decades of marketing campaigns. Now their advertising campaigns are trying desperately to appeal to yet another minority audience in an attempt to boost their flagging sales.

What was once an iconic drink, has become a lesson in "if it ain't broken, don't fcuk with it".

Azalea

whisky_galore wrote: »

They're easy to spot, they reek of 'holier than thou'.

In my experience this gets said more than being the actual case. They can get a bit of a hard time for their personal choices.

whisky_galore

Azalea wrote: »

In my experience this gets said more than being the actual case. They can get a bit of a hard time for their personal choices.

I beg to differ, I get bombarded with Facebook vegan/vegetarian preaching-to-the-converted guilt-trip articles on a daily basis.

Caoimhgh1n

Deleted User wrote: »

The main causes of global warming are immigrants and Conradh na Gaeilge.

FACT. END OFF.

No, actually it's racist idiots.

JC01

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

Just because you don't care about the fact animal agriculture is the main cause of global warming, the reason the Amazon is being torn down, why the fish numbers will be almost depleted in 60 years

Really? I always thought it had something to do with fossil fuels and that crac

Caoimhgh1n

There are some very informative videos and statistics online.

Ruu

Is there a low fat, low carb version? #gym #gymrat #workout #gainz #legday

Lyaiera

Ruu wrote: »

Is there a low fat, low carb version? #gym #gymrat #workout #gainz #legday

I always thought Guinness and stout in general had the lowest amount of calories out of all the beers.

I drink Beamish, so this won't bother me. I doubt it'll affect the taste much though. The product was just used to make the beer less cloudy.

Zillah

Every single vegan I have ever met has been a lovely person that has never ranted or raved at anyone. Posters jumping on them, insulting them; it's incredibly immature and makes you seem like nasty little children picking on a smaller kid in a playground.

99% of vegans are just people who don't like hurting animals - that's it. You'd think that wouldn't provoke such a hateful, knee-jerk reaction. Post a news article about anyone that hurt a dog or a cat in After Hours and the same posters will be frothing at the mouth to have them lynched, yet suggest that other animals like pigs or cows might deserve some compassion and everyone jumps over themselves to be the next one to make some ignorant quip about arrogant vegans, which is just a myth outside of PETA's PR people.

Yiz are a big bunch of hypocrites and cowards half the time.

More on topic: isinglass is just used to remove some of the sediment from the beer, it doesn't change the flavour and there are plenty of non-fish alternatives.

sonny.knowles

Zillah wrote: »

Every single vegan I have ever met has been a lovely person that has never ranted or raved at anyone.

Is there a punchline to this joke?

Trond

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Guinness stopped being an iconic beverage when they started fcuking about with the brewing methods and recipe to "appeal to a wider audience". The new recipes and brewing methods have never appealed to a wider audience, so they've had to rely on marketing to try and encourage people to drink their pisswater.

The result is that their sales of Guinness have dropped through the floor, in spite of the last two decades of marketing campaigns. Now their advertising campaigns are trying desperately to appeal to yet another minority audience in an attempt to boost their flagging sales.

What was once an iconic drink, has become a lesson in "if it ain't broken, don't fcuk with it".

Tbf their sales figures are up this year but they had been dropping for the last 5 years before that. They still have a very large share of the market here.

Azalea

whisky_galore wrote: »

I beg to differ, I get bombarded with Facebook vegan/vegetarian preaching-to-the-converted guilt-trip articles on a daily basis.

Fair enough, I can't argue with your own experiences.

It's just, at times, vegetarians/vegans get dismissed in a kneejerk fashion as arrogant and preachy, when it depends on the individual. Same with atheists. Of course there are arses among them all, but I think the extent of it seems exaggerated.