Where should future Tipp GAA forums go?

You decide. 56 days to decide.

Clareman

I'll vote for the GAA forum

Clareman

Clareman wrote: »

I'll vote for the GAA forum

Good for you. We live in a democracy so why not sure.

To be honest, it could be time for change anyway.

Xenophile

I have voted for the GAA forum !

evolving tipperary

Can there be two? One for supporters and one opened out for all? Or, is that madness?

Anyway, can you give the reasons for and against both?

evolving tipperary

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Can there be two? One for supporters and one opened out for all? Or, is that madness?

Anyway, can you give the reasons for and against both?

Keep it in the Tipp forum

For

• Regional forum should perhaps have a thread dedicated to the county's most popular sports
• Thread has been relatively popular since its 2010 inception

Against

• Thread could be easily missed by many members who dont navigate to the Tipp forum
• Narrow input base.

Move to GAA



For

• Wider input base from other counties
• Keeping in line with other counties that have their threads listed in GAA

Against

• Thread could descend into chaos more often
• Previous thread became a ghost thread
• May take adjusting to the new settings

evolving tipperary

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Can there be two? One for supporters and one opened out for all? Or, is that madness?

Anyway, can you give the reasons for and against both?

We tried two a while back and the GAA forum one ended up a ghost thread but it was more that it was opened up after the other so people seen no point in posting to two

evolving tipperary

what would you vote for?

Xenophile

evolving tipperary wrote: »

what would you vote for?

Just let fans go ahead and vote. A secret ballot is best for polls like this as it would help avoid arguments into the future. Unless of course unless people want to declare their hand voluntarily.

callaway92

I like having it here as I rarely venture into the GAA forum anyway.

If I want to find out about club games etc. I want to go to the Tipperary Forum.

The Lost Sheep

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Can there be two? One for supporters and one opened out for all? Or, is that madness?

Anyway, can you give the reasons for and against both?

There can still be two regardless of where they are and both will be open to all as there's nothing stopping people from other counties etc from commenting regardless of threads location

callaway92 wrote: »

I like having it here as I rarely venture into the GAA forum anyway.

If I want to find out about club games etc. I want to go to the Tipperary Forum.

You would still find out about club games etc if this thread was in the GAA forum....

callaway92

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

You would still find out about club games etc if this thread was in the GAA forum....

I know that - but I'm often in the Tipperary forum anyway, so it's convenient.

evolving tipperary

I'd keep it in the Tipp forum also - I think Gunner does a great job of it

Xenophile

evolving tipperary wrote: »

I'd keep it in the Tipp forum also - I think Gunner does a great job of it

If Tipp Gunner came out and said GAA would you urge people to take his advice.

Either way its all the same to me the end of the day. We're hardly stopping outsiders from contributing at present and the thread is fairly accessible. Im happy to go with the majority and so far it seems a close run thing.

Im not sure there was many county threads going even in GAA when we opened this thread first back in 2010. its more out of habit and easy reference that it has maintained itself in the Tipperary thread.

tippspur

Keep it here.

evolving tipperary

What's your point?

touts

I voted to keep it (singular) here. It's useful to have Tipperary specific news and announcements here as it could get lost in the general GAA section with updates from around the country. However it would have to be clear what the rules are for posting in that thread and what the rules are for starting other GAA threads. Speaking as a member of a GAA club and an underage coach there are many lads I know who I wouldn't trust to realize that a thread about the scandalous goings on at a friendly match between their U-12 camogie team and the bowsies in the neighbouring parish wouldn't be of much interest to the general Tipperary population. As long as it is one thread on all GAA related Tipperary things I say keep it here. But if it becomes more than one thread (e.g. one in inter county stuff, various ones for general tipperary GAA chat & banter, numerous ones for tipperary clubs making announcements) then I say either keep that in the GAA section OR have a sub section within the Tipperary section for GAA forums. (e.g. Home > Regional > Midwest > Tipperary > Tipp GAA > Thread title).

Clareman

There's no problem having 2 by the way, once they aren't exact replicas of each other there shouldn't be a problem, personally I wouldn't be a fan of having 2 versions as something would be missed, there isn't a GAA thread in the other mid-west forums by the way. I follow the Clare GAA thread in the GAA and interact in there.

With my mod hat on (I'm a former GAA mod by the way), a Regional Mod isn't going to get involved too much in a GAA Thread as their knowledge wouldn't really be around GAA, chances are if there's an issue with posting posts are just going to be deleted and posters banned. In the GAA forum the mods there will have a deeper knowledge of the subject and will be able to moderate in a way more suitable to a GAA discussion.

Reginald P. DuM

I voted to keep it as it is.. Seems to be working extremely well. I set up the very first one back in the glory year of 2010 after spotting a serious need for such a forum, GAA is massive in Tipp. Hurlers on the ditch are everywhere! Plus I felt a little life was needed in the Tipp section in general. I don't get the chance to contribute as much any more but its fair to say it has gone from strength to strength with diligent work from users like Tipp Gunner and others. Fair play to ye. So, if it ain't broke........

ReacherCreature

Keep it here. Great group of lads post here without it being cliquey. I fear if it's moved to a larger audience like the GAA forum, people will less likely to post for fear of getting lambasted by others. Keeps out the crap posting/trolls on match days/no hurling time as well. It's become tradition too, been here for years and last I saw, getting more popular each year. Plus if anyone wants to find a Tipperary thread, it's common sense to go look in either GAA or the region/county.

callaway92

Most people voting for it to be put in the main GAA forum would be non-Tipp people I'd assume?

OAOB

callaway92 wrote: »

Most people voting for it to be put in the main GAA forum would be non-Tipp people I'd assume?

Most of the regular contributors seem to want to keep it in the Tipp forum.
Almost 50votes cast and the thread usually has only about half that number of contributors

callaway92

Ya, was thinking the same. Keep it here lads, innit?

Hammer Archer

Not going to vote as: (a) It wouldn't be fair for an outsider like myself to have a say and (b) It doesn't really bother me either way.

Just going to point out what would happen if ye did decide to move this thread to the GAA forum:
Going by the activity of the thread, I definitely wouldn't see it getting lost in the GAA forum. The thread would probably be behind in activity only to the Waterford and Cork threads which are almost constantly on the first page.
For anyone worried about possible trolls, as a rule we take a much stricter line on any winding up by outsiders in county threads as opposed to on match threads. So something that may be permitted on a Tipperary match thread would be a no-no in the Tipp discussion thread.
Obviously, the GAA charter would be in force which would mean no personal abuse of players, managers, etc.

So ye are welcome to open a thread in the GAA forum if you decide to do so. Ye are also welcome to open one even if ye keep one in this forum, though as someone pointed out, this was already done a few years back and it wasn't exactly a hive of activity.

Xenophile

callaway92 wrote: »

Most people voting for it to be put in the main GAA forum would be non-Tipp people I'd assume?

Businesses, organisations etc. can benefit from an outside view of those who can approach issues from a detached point of view with no agenda or baggage. Nothing to fear in GAA we have been assured that the Moderators are quite good.

Xenophile

Commercials and Moyle Rovers two Clponmel teams played in this years County Football Final. Not too many people are going to look for Clonmel in the Mid West.

Same for next Sunday in the Munster Club Football competition not a geek about it inTipp GAA.

tippspur

callaway92 wrote: »

Most people voting for it to be put in the main GAA forum would be non-Tipp people I'd assume?

I didn't realise non Tipp people could vote,only Tipp people should decide where their own GAA forum should go in fairness.

Xenophile

I am sure you mean Tipp supporters...............................we could do with some more support from the weaker counties,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,we all know that there are plenty of anti Tipp people around but I also know that there are lots of people from all parts of Ireland who will come to Croke Park just to see Tipp playing.

Thought id give this thread a bump with the voting ending soon

evolving tipperary

The chart used to tell us how many people had voted?

It was more than the number of people who actually use the forum...hahaha

Xenophile

evolving tipperary wrote: »

The chart used to tell us how many people had voted?

It was more than the number of people who actually use the forum...hahaha

I think we could expect more than 70 users if we move the forum to GAA.

OAOB

Xenophile wrote: »

I think we could expect more than 70 users if we move the forum to GAA.

That doesn't necessarily equate to a better thread.

I think it's a bit ridiculous allowing non contributors to have a say in where we locate our Tipperary thread and I think a hidden vote is the wrong way to go about it.

I personally think we should start a thread in each forum and just let users decide. There would likely be plenty of crossover but more Tipp discussion is a good thing in my books

evolving tipperary

OAOB wrote: »

Xenophile wrote: »

I think we could expect more than 70 users if we move the forum to GAA.

That doesn't necessarily equate to a better thread.

I think it's a bit ridiculous allowing non contributors to have a say in where we locate our Tipperary thread and I think a hidden vote is the wrong way to go about it.

I personally think we should start a thread in each forum and just let users decide. There would likely be plenty of crossover but more Tipp discussion is a good thing in my book

I agree completely with OAOB

Xenophile

So we are determined to remain "The Club of Less Than Seventy"!

evolving tipperary

Xenophile wrote: »

So we are determined to remain "The Club of Less Than Seventy"!

We can be both!

OAOB

OAOB wrote: »

That doesn't necessarily equate to a better thread.

I think it's a bit ridiculous allowing non contributors to have a say in where we locate our Tipperary thread and I think a hidden vote is the wrong way to go about it.

I personally think we should start a thread in each forum and just let users decide. There would likely be plenty of crossover but more Tipp discussion is a good thing in my books

Its such a split decision that it might be the best thing to do regardless to be honest. I originally wanted to embed the poll in the existing 2015 thread however once the thread is over 2 days old it wont allow so i said id open a separate thread in the Tipp forum.

Ive a feeling the GAA thread will go nowhere once the Tipperary thread is open though

Xenophile

evolving tipperary wrote: »

We can be both!

As Groucho Marx said "I don't want to be a member of any club that would accept me as a member"

OAOB

Xenophile wrote: »

As Groucho Marx said "I don't want to be a member of any club that would accept me as a member"

Would that make us the club of sixty-nine??? We'd have plenty of people wanting to be part of it with a catchy title like that;)

Paarthurnax

Jesus, The poll is tight at the moment Late goal needed!!

Xenophile

I want the goal to be on the side of the GAA. In other words YES to GAA.

Paarthurnax

Paarthurnax wrote: »

Jesus, The poll is tight at the moment Late goal needed!!

A hung Dail at the moment. A coalition may be needed.

Xenophile

Why on earth would you be looking for Clonmel Commercials in the mid west. Clonmel is firmly rooted in the South East, less than 30 miles from Dungarvan by the sea.

Vote for Tipperary to be part of GAA and you have immediate access to Club Championships.

Vote here YES to GAA.

Xenophile

And while the GAA page is open you can also express your views on subjects like "free to air" etc.

tippspur

39 all at the moment I write this,close it up and call it a draw.

tippspur

tippspur wrote: »

39 all at the moment I write this,close it up and call it a draw.

Am thinking your correct Tippspur.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98108359#post98108359

Request to mods to lock this thread and the 2015 thread.

2 threads open in both GAA and Tipperary.

Xenophile

Deleted User wrote: »

Request to mods to lock this thread and the 2015 thread.

2 threads open in both GAA and Tipperary.

Pity you did not create an open ended thread in GAA. Why not ask the mods there to take 2016 out of the title and make it open ended.