question for athiests

Paddy Dreadful

Taking your non belief into account would you have preferred not to have been born or are you delighted you were?

Peregrinus

Not an atheist. But I struggle to see how "taking non belief into account" is going to affect the answer anyone might offer to that question.

Most people are pleased that they exist except presumably those who find existence miserable. But there's no reason to think that atheists are more likely than others to find existence miserable.

(If anything, I'd expect any causation to work the other way - people who find existence miserable might be more likely to become atheist. But, seriously, I think we'd be talking about a vanishingly small number of people here.)

mickoneill31

Daft question I think. The flip side would be
As a theist are you looking forward to death?

SimonTemplar

I agree - odd question.

Of course I am glad I exist. I'm also glad that I don't spend my existence trying to please a fictional deity in order to enter an equally fictional afterlife based on a 2000 year old book.

Mark Tapley

Paddy Dreadful wrote: »

Taking your non belief into account would you have preferred not to have been born or are you delighted you were?

i think you might be looking for the nihilists.

pauldla

A very odd question indeed. OP, why is this a question for atheists?

Timberrrrrrrr

Very silly question.

I have all of the things theists have in my life, love, joy, friends, family etc, the only thing I don't have is a belief in a sky fairy who wants to burn me for eternity because he only shows his face on a piece of toast in Guatemala.

pauldla

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Very silly question.

I have all of the things theists have in my life, love, joy, friends, family etc, the only thing I don't have is a belief in a sky fairy who wants to burn me for eternity because he only shows his face on a piece of toast in Guatemala.

Toast! There is a much more interesting question. As an atheist, do you prefer your toast done on one side or on both sides?

lazygal

pauldla wrote: »

Toast! There is a much more interesting question. As an atheist, do you prefer your toast done on one side or on both sides?

I prefer Hawaiian pizza.
Did we ever settle the jaffa cakes-biscuits or not question?


What a time to be alive!!

Timberrrrrrrr

pauldla wrote: »

Toast! There is a much more interesting question. As an atheist, do you prefer your toast done on one side or on both sides?

I used to only toast one side when I was young but then copped on and now do both sides BUT!!! finished product has to be left to go cold BEFORE buttering

Timberrrrrrrr

lazygal wrote: »

I prefer Hawaiian pizza.
Did we ever settle the jaffa cakes-biscuits or not question?


What a time to be alive!!

Oh biscuits, Tesco doing hob nobs €1 a pack :pac:

Peregrinus

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I used to only toast one side when I was young but then copped on and now do both sides BUT!!! finished product has to be left to go cold BEFORE buttering

Already I see fuel being piled around the stake for Timberrrrrrrr. "Left to go cold" indeed! The very idea!

Boskowski

How did you arrive at that question even? If you never were how would even ask yourself that question? Do you really think life is not worth living unless it lasts forever?

pauldla

Cold buttering? Why, pray tell?

There is no such thing as Hawaiian pizza, lazygal, I do wish you would stop this madness.

Shrap

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I used to only toast one side when I was young but then copped on and now do both sides BUT!!! finished product has to be left to go cold BEFORE buttering

Bloody heathen. HOW, pray tell, do you melt the butter on cold toast? This unnatural behaviour is yet another defeat for humanity.

Whereas Hawaiian pizza deniers are an even more misguided bunch. There is but one true pizza, as will become clear in the great pizza-oven hereafter. You have been warned.

Pherekydes

OP must have seen this on FB:

Timberrrrrrrr

Peregrinus wrote: »

Already I see fuel being piled around the stake for Timberrrrrrrr. "Left to go cold" indeed! The very idea!

Don't knock it until you try it,























Said the Bishop to the nun.

quadrifoglio verde

And they say theres no such thing as stupid questions!
Of course I'm glad I was born and equally I'm glad that I had the cop to realise quite early in life that my parents were trying to indoctrine me into a belief system thats existed for 2000 years with no proof, just fear of the almightys reaction when Im dead

Shrap

Can't believe I have to post this again. Bow down unbelievers :mad: (all except you Timberrrrrrrr - we'll have to sacrifice you I'm afraid. Sorry).

pauldla

Shrap wrote: »

Can't believe I have to post this again. Bow down unbelievers :mad: (all except you Timberrrrrrrr - we'll have to sacrifice you I'm afraid. Sorry).

Is that Niki Minaj?

choons

I enjoy life to the fullest! Arguably more so than theists as I can fully appreciate the novelty of having a consciousness that lasts for a mere human lifetime.

If someones beliefs make them wish they hadn't been born then they might consider seeking help to improve their perspective on life.

It's all good op, might aswel enjoy the experiences life has to offer!

Liamario

If OP isn't going to bother using their brain before creating a stupid thread, why bother responding. Stupid, irrelevant question.

simdan

Paddy Dreadful wrote:

Taking your non belief into account would you have preferred not to have been born or are you delighted you were?

This guy was obviously drunk or off his head at 4am on a Thursday night. He wrote this to rile people up and have a laugh. He's not even taken part in the conversation..

Waste of time thread!

pauldla

simdan wrote: »

This guy was obviously drunk or off his head at 4am on a Thursday night. He wrote this to rile people up and have a laugh. He's not even taken part in the conversation..

Waste of time thread!

I won't go so far as to call it a waste of time thread: the Cold Buttering Theory of Toast has yet to be explained/justified.

Lucena

Lads, will ye give the OP a break, I can see where they're coming from (I think).

Possibly the thinking is, and I'm only guessing here, coming from the point of view of a believer: How can you get through life knowing that at the end of it, it was all for nothing.

Shrap

Liamario wrote: »

If OP isn't going to bother using their brain before creating a stupid thread, why bother responding. Stupid, irrelevant question.

Why bother? Well, because it brings up the more important questions that we've been discussing here for years with no resolution.

pauldla wrote: »

Is that Niki Minaj?

Who? Grrr. *shakes stick dramatically in general direction of China*

We must dance now to appease His Pineappliness.

lazygal

simdan wrote: »

This guy was obviously drunk or off his head at 4am on a Thursday night. He wrote this to rile people up and have a laugh. He's not even taken part in the conversation..

Waste of time thread!

Discussion about toast and pizza and biscuits is NEVER a waste of time.

Mince Pie

My name is Mince Pie and I like to wait till my toast is cold before I butter it.

Oh and pineapple on pizza should be an offence. It's just wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

lazygal

Mince Pie wrote: »

My name is Mince Pie and I like to wait till my toast is cold before I butter it.

Mince pies are another area ripe for debate. I'm considering a newfangled recipe for mincemeat with cranberries. Blasphemous? Or a nice twist?

Shrap

Mince Pie wrote: »

My name is Mince Pie and I like to wait till my toast is cold before I butter it.

Oh and pineapple on pizza should be an offence. It's just wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

I was about to give you the benefit of the doubt and tell you you're in the right place with A&A.... it's good you recognise you have a problem and we'll do our utmost to help you....and then I saw the rest of your post. I don't think I can help you any longer.

Mince Pie

lazygal wrote:

Mince pies are another area ripe for debate. I'm considering a newfangled recipe for mincemeat with cranberries. Blasphemous? Or a nice twist?

Go with the cranberries I reckon. Nice twist. I've put them in my Christmas cake.

lazygal

Mince Pie wrote: »

Go with the cranberries I reckon. Nice twist. I've put them in my Christmas cake.

Christmas cake you say. Hmmmm.

PopePalpatine

Aw shit, you didn't say Festivus! Our cover is blown!

mickoneill31

Lucena wrote: »

Lads, will ye give the OP a break, I can see where they're coming from (I think).

Possibly the thinking is, and I'm only guessing here, coming from the point of view of a believer: How can you get through life knowing that at the end of it, it was all for nothing.

If that's where he's coming from then he has the wrong point of view. Most atheists I know think "this is it so make the most of it".

For me I see religion as pretty much the opposite. Put up with all of the crap you're given now because you'll be rewarded when you're dead which happily enough nobody can ever disprove.

When I'm having a nice meal or watching a good movie I don't get sad and think "why bother" because I know it's going to end soon.

Akrasia

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I used to only toast one side when I was young but then copped on and now do both sides BUT!!! finished product has to be left to go cold BEFORE buttering

Blasphamy

Cold toast tastes like cardboard

melted butter on warm toast is one of life's greatest pleasures

robindch

Akrasia wrote: »

melted butter on warm toast is one of life's greatest pleasures

With the slightest dusting of cut-comb honey.

And Tea. Earl Gray. Hot.

Iseedeadpixels

I'm gonna second the cold toast before buttering it......pure bliss makes me happy I was born!

Shrap

robindch wrote: »

With the slightest dusting of cut-comb honey.

And Tea. Earl Gray. Hot.

Or Marmite.

But with coffee. Strong enough to trot a mouse on.






*senses another schism coming*

robindch

lazygal wrote: »

Discussion about toast and pizza and biscuits is NEVER a waste of time.

I had quite a tasty piece of pizza bread last night at a place in Sandymount which has only just started doing pizzas. Unfortunately, it was on the menu as "Pizza bread, covered in our delicious home-made tomato sauce, or just drizzled with olive-oil, rosemary and roasted garlic".

Buoyed by a sense of impending rosemary bread, I ordered it, entirely forgetting to mention the rosemary bit so the forum can imagine my disappointment when it showed up covered in tasty, but completely disappointing, tomato sauce.

First world problem and all of that, but a problem all the same.

#idisappointme

robindch

Shrap wrote: »

Or Marmite.

There is never cause to use marmite for anything other than tea with the neighbours. Or deviant uncles.

Shrap

robindch wrote: »

There is never cause to use marmite for anything other than tea with the neighbours. Or deviant uncles.

You have been sadly mislead. A clear case of bigotry and I blame the parents. That is all.

endacl

Was that the stupidest opening post ever? Poll needs an extra question.

Timberrrrrrrr

robindch wrote: »

With the slightest dusting of cut-comb honey.

And Tea. Earl Gray. Hot.

Tea?

TEA????

Coffee is the way to go first thing in the morning!

yeppydeppy

Earl Gray my árse - Irish breakfast tea (Lyons or Barrys) is the only true path to enlightenment - maybe occasionally coffee as long as it's not instant.

pauldla

Akrasia wrote: »

Blasphamy

Cold toast tastes like cardboard

melted butter on warm toast is one of life's greatest pleasures

That reminded me of the bit in Homage to Catalonia, where Orwell describes how the Republican propaganda shouters in the trenches would sometimes not bother belting out the party line, but instead call out 'Buttered toast! We're all sitting down to buttered toast here right now!' IIRC he said did not doubt it's effectiveness.:)

hungry

lazygal

yeppydeppy wrote: »

Earl Gray my árse - Irish breakfast tea (Lyons or Barrys) is the only true path to enlightenment - maybe occasionally coffee as long as it's not instant.

Yes this is a breakfast tea nation.

MrPudding

Akrasia wrote: »

Blasphamy

Cold toast tastes like cardboard

melted butter on warm toast is one of life's greatest pleasures

Warm buttered toast dipped in tea... Mmmm

MrP

Gazzmonkey

Paddy Dreadful wrote: »

Taking your non belief into account would you have preferred not to have been born or are you delighted you were?

Belief in cloud wizards and sky fairies has nothing to do with the birth of any species so your question is null, void and stupid.

Shrap

lazygal wrote: »

Yes this is a breakfast tea nation.

Although the coffee drinkers are here just as long I reckon, and at least they don't try to tell the tea drinkers what to drink.


BTW, Mr.P, Ew. Just Ew.

FishOnABike

lazygal wrote: »

I prefer Hawaiian pizza.
Did we ever settle the jaffa cakes-biscuits or not question?


What a time to be alive!!

I believe that matter has been conclusively settled in the UK by the infinite wisdom of Her Majesties Revenue and Customs. Given the persuasive influence of legal decisions in a nearby, similar and historically linked legal jurisdiction I think we can accept they are indeed a cake.

robindch

MrPudding wrote: »

Warm buttered toast dipped in tea... Mmmm

Blech!