Destiny General Discussion Thread

Wonda-Boy

Just completed the challenge mode there on bathers, the emblem is nice and you get twice the loot but I think I will stick with the prestige raid emblem.

Mitch Connor

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Just completed the challenge mode there on bathers, the emblem is nice and you get twice the loot but I think I will stick with the prestige raid emblem.

You do it on normal? Heard datto saying zero point to ring it on prestige. Nothing different for doing it, just a crap load harder.

Wonda-Boy

Ahh yeah just normal, its not that hard TBH. Just leave one chap in the water in the middle at all times shooting ads while the rest rotate clockwise. Just takes a tad longer.

Tazzimus

Mitch Connor wrote: »

You can do arms dealer right now - its the nightfall! I failed it a few times on prestige last night.:(

Ps4 is 60 miles away so not at the mo might try Monday before the reset, although trying to get people running the nf after Tuesday can be a bit tricky sometimes.

sniper_samurai

Tazzimus wrote: »

Ps4 is 60 miles away so not at the mo might try Monday before the reset, although trying to get people running the nf after Tuesday can be a bit tricky sometimes.

Might do it with you, haven't been on Destiny since before I went to Budapest.

Mitch Connor

How do stats work in Destiny? According to the game and DIM my stat spread on my Hunter is:

Mobility: 5
Resistence: 6
Recovery: 4.

But if I add up the stats on the armor itself it should be higher than that.

Mobility: 5
Resistence: 9
Recovery: 7

Whats the disparity between the armor stats and the overall stats? I have a Resistance mod and a Recovery mod on the armor, but surely everything should be getting reported? Looks like the stats on the Warlock are matching up.

My hunters a 5-4-4 so no idea how you'd be getting 5-9-7

Kimbot

AdamD wrote: »

My hunters a 5-4-4 so no idea how you'd be getting 5-9-7

My titan is like 5-7-4 i think but some stats can go way up from what I have seen because of the mods etc.

Mitch Connor

I know the numbers seem like they are way too high for what should be available, but they are the numbers reported by both DIM and the Companion App.

Mobility Resistance Recovery
Helmet AA1 RoadComplex 1 2 2
Arms AA1 RoadComplex 1 2 2
Chest Raiden Flux 2 2 2
Legs AA1 RoadComplex 1 3 1

Helmet has Impact Absorbsion mod and the Boots have a Self-Repairing mod.

Mitch Connor

It must be the numbers being reported on DIM and Gear Manager are simply incorrect.

I checked Raiden Flux online and it says the stats start with Mobility 2, Resistance 2 - with the option to increase Resistance or Recovery - neither of those options should result in a 2-2-2 spread. Might be a similar issue on other pieces.

Mitch Connor

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Is that maybe the total stats on each piece of gear before you pick between say resiliance and recovery?

I dunno.

The Warlock and Titan builds match between what the armor says in DIM and GM when I look at them, and the overall stats reported by DIM too.

So its only the Hunter where the numbers aren't adding up.

I would guess it is a bug in the display on DIM and GM because the stat spread I have (overall) looks like a viable number for a Hunter, adding the armor numbers up seems way too high, even with mods.

Tazzimus

Do you lads put much stock in the mobility stat?

I tend to have it at 0 for the Warlock and Titan, doesn't seem to do a whole lot.
I think the gear I use for running the raid is something like
Warlock: 0-4-10
Titan: 0-7-6

Mitch Connor

Tazzimus wrote: »

Do you lads put much stock in the mobility stat?

I tend to have it at 0 for the Warlock and Titan, doesn't seem to do a whole lot.
I think the gear I use for running the raid is something like
Warlock: 0-4-10
Titan: 0-7-6

None at all. Walking and strafe speed aint a big thing. Even in the dogs section i'm not thinking "IF ONLY I COULD HAVE WALKED QUICKER".

Think strafe speed is a little overlooked in PvP, pretty important in 1v1s. I'd still get 4 resilience and put most of the rest into recovery where possible.

AbusesToilets

Scandalous that the weakest class in the game can't roll for high recovery or resilience. Hunters getting the shaft as usual. Had a great tether the other day in PvP. Right in front of a Striker in his super, did absolutely nothing. Slammed right on thru it, killing me. Love it.

Mitch Connor

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Scandalous that the weakest class in the game can't roll for high recovery or resilience. Hunters getting the shaft as usual. Had a great tether the other day in PvP. Right in front of a Striker in his super, did absolutely nothing. Slammed right on thru it, killing me. Love it.

Can't use it as a shutdown super unfortunately - has to be a trap and even then it may not work.

Wonda-Boy

There is no way I would be running any char. with zero mobility especially in pvp you would be a sitting fat duck. I usually have it on at least 2 for pve and 4 for pvp with most points going into recovery as apparently its the only stat actually working at the moment....unless the last few patches have fixed it.

SeanHarty

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Scandalous that the weakest class in the game can't roll for high recovery or resilience. Hunters getting the shaft as usual. Had a great tether the other day in PvP. Right in front of a Striker in his super, did absolutely nothing. Slammed right on thru it, killing me. Love it.

to be honest I cant see why any hunter is running anything other than golden gun

Wonda-Boy

Thats because you are a noob.

I run void shadow walker as I am not a selfish hunter fook and am more of a team player then 99% of the self centred swines who play the class......

"Ohhh look 250 million kajillian damage on calus, I am a legend with my celestial nighthawk hunter"


LMFAO

You know who you are!!!!

Kimbot

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

There is no way I would be running any char. with zero mobility especially in pvp you would be a sitting fat duck. I usually have it on at least 2 for pve and 4 for pvp with most points going into recovery as apparently its the only stat actually working at the moment....unless the last few patches have fixed it.

Ive ran it with 0 in PvP or very very close it it a few times and never noticed anthing different. In fairness floaty titan rocket kills dont require mobility

Mitch Connor

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

There is no way I would be running any char. with zero mobility especially in pvp you would be a sitting fat duck. I usually have it on at least 2 for pve and 4 for pvp with most points going into recovery as apparently its the only stat actually working at the moment....unless the last few patches have fixed it.

I just don't find my walking speed is a big issue.

Thought it could be an answer as to why i die so much - not mobile enough while ADSing (strafing).

My movement is generally jumping, sprinting and sliding - whether I am a second quicker over 100 meters walking doesn't really seem to be an issue. But as I say, my strafe isn't good enough so maybe if I worked on that i would value the speed there more. I do wonder how high the mobility has to go for that strafe speed to be a real differenciator. Is 2 over 0 really going to be a significant difference?

SeanHarty

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Thats because you are a noob.

how did your trails go last night?

Mitch Connor

SeanHarty wrote: »

to be honest I cant see why any hunter is running anything other than golden gun

Neutral game on the other classes is considered better, I think.

AbusesToilets

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Can't use it as a shutdown super unfortunately - has to be a trap and even then it may not work.

Which is madness, given that is the entire concept of the super. Bungie really went all out in messing about Hunter subclasses. Garbage nades, Dodge on a cooldown, weakest supers by a country mile.

Wonda-Boy

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I just don't find my walking speed is a big issue.

Thought it could be an answer as to why i die so much - not mobile enough while ADSing (strafing).

My movement is generally jumping, sprinting and sliding - whether I am a second quicker over 100 meters walking doesn't really seem to be an issue. But as I say, my strafe isn't good enough so maybe if I worked on that i would value the speed there more. I do wonder how high the mobility has to go for that strafe speed to be a real differenciator. Is 2 over 0 really going to be a significant difference?

Yeah its pure strife related where you will be so predictable and get hammered, well that is my case anyway.

Wonda-Boy

SeanHarty wrote: »

how did your trails go last night?

No idea noob, I did not play any trials last night......:D

Kimbot

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Which is madness, given that is the entire concept of the super. Bungie really went all out in messing about Hunter subclasses. Garbage nades, Dodge on a cooldown, weakest supers by a country mile.

Sure everyone was banging on about how great the arc strider subclass was in the begining and now its all pants :P

Tazzimus

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

There is no way I would be running any char. with zero mobility especially in pvp you would be a sitting fat duck. I usually have it on at least 2 for pve and 4 for pvp with most points going into recovery as apparently its the only stat actually working at the moment....unless the last few patches have fixed it.

Has done alright by me so far
I'm no pvp god but I can generally hold my own, mobility seems to make little to no difference. I'd be much more invested in Resilience and Recovery

AbusesToilets

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Scandalous that the weakest class in the game can't roll for high recovery or resilience. Hunters getting the shaft as usual. Had a great tether the other day in PvP. Right in front of a Striker in his super, did absolutely nothing. Slammed right on thru it, killing me. Love it.

I don't really buy into this Hunter being weak stuff. Its statistically the best class for W/L and K/D in PvP at the moment.

Dodge is extremely underrated by people. I find it way more useful than the rift.

SeanHarty wrote: »

to be honest I cant see why any hunter is running anything other than golden gun

I've been using Nightstalker, the neutral game with invisibility is incredible. Definitely my top choice at the moment.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I just don't find my walking speed is a big issue.

Thought it could be an answer as to why i die so much - not mobile enough while ADSing (strafing).

My movement is generally jumping, sprinting and sliding - whether I am a second quicker over 100 meters walking doesn't really seem to be an issue. But as I say, my strafe isn't good enough so maybe if I worked on that i would value the speed there more. I do wonder how high the mobility has to go for that strafe speed to be a real differenciator. Is 2 over 0 really going to be a significant difference?

Not sure on the differences but 1 thing I've found handy is changing my controller layout so that I now crouch using R3, so its easy to duck your head mid gunfight if they're headshotting you causing them to miss. Only takes an hour or two to get used to the change, makes it easier to slide too.

gimli2112

I hate FPSs that don't have the option to put duck on the r3 button. I can map it on the console but it's such a pain.

Don't believe mobility, resistance or even recovery make that much difference to a causal pvpr such as myself. Sure it'll help out in certain situations but won't significantly improve you whichever option you go imo.

I'm using the subclasses I used in D1 for PvP but changed one.
Striker
Blade Dancer
Stormcaller - changed to Voidwalker