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How to beat a southpaw

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  • #32
    Chickenwing47
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    efb wrote: »
    Cool well best of luck, jabs and straight punches catch the judges eye and finish rounds strongly

    Let us know how u do

    Thanks I'll keep that in mind


  • #33
    Chickenwing47
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    efb wrote: »
    The one thing us citeogs have is an advantage in fighting sports, I feel like a bit of a traitor to my sinister brothers but the OP is sound so I won't be gauche!

    And OP, make sure it's all left in the ring

    Haha will do, getting nervous now ðŸ˜


  • #34
    FTA69
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    TheGlitchKing wrote: »
    circle toward his lead hand. Don't think about which direction you move just focus on the position of his body. Let him lead you like a dance and don't rely so much on what you know. Treat the fight as partnership where you let your opponent lead you. The fact is southpaws are rare which makes preparing for them difficult. ,

    Lol.


  • #35
    walshb
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    Southpaws are not rare at all. In amateur boxing it's almost 50-50 now from what I see.


  • #36
    TheGlitchKing
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    walshb wrote: »
    Southpaws are not rare at all. In amateur boxing it's almost 50-50 now from what I see.

    left handed people are quite rare in society in general. So just working off the percentile of the population they represent left handed boxers would be a valued asset to most gyms.
    l


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  • #37
    efb
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    Left handed people are 1:9 so a 50/50 split in the gym would indicate a clear advantage


  • #38
    walshb
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    TheGlitchKing wrote: »
    left handed people are quite rare in society in general. So just working off the percentile of the population they represent left handed boxers would be a valued asset to most gyms.
    l

    I wasn't talking about left handed people. I was talking about southpaws. Far from rare IMO.


  • #39
    efb
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    walshb wrote: »
    I wasn't talking about left handed peoplw. I was talking about southpaws. Far from rare IMO.

    Real Southpaws


  • #40
    efb
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    I don't have much time for right handed people that fight exclusively southpaw, why lead with your strong hand?


  • #41
    TheGlitchKing
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    walshb wrote: »
    I wasn't talking about left handed peoplw. I was talking about southpaws. Far from rare IMO.

    I was speaking in terms of natural southpaws. There's a difference between using southpaw as a style and using southpaw because you're left handed. Left handed people are natural southpaws.

    Boxers who use both typically switch back and forth between styles that suit them. Often when an orthodox using southpaw gets rattled he will immediately revert back to his orthodox style. These boxers are not southpaws, they are orthodoxies who use southpaw, but they are not southpaws.

    It is possible for an orthodoxy to make the full switch to southpaw, but these guys are probably rarer than natural souths themselves, and you would have to wonder if the advantage gained is worth the time spent adapting to a different style when they could be spending that time mastering their own.

    In a nut shell, training against a fake southpaw to prepare for a real southpaw is like sparring against Butterbean to prepare you for Wlad.


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  • #42
    walshb
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    Southpaws exist due to how comfortable they feel standing right or left footed. I am a right handed southpaw. No matter what I just didn't have the same feel and balance and comfort leading withleft foot. Now, I do play snooker left handed, but I write right handed and kick football right handed, as well as other right handed things. There are still more orthodox fighters out there, sure. But it's not a massive difference. Btw, any orthodox out there who are very much leftie dominant?


  • #43
    efb
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    walshb wrote: »
    Southpaws exist due to how comfortable they feel standing right or left footed. I am a right handed southpaw. No matter what I just didn't have the same feel and balance and comfort leading withleft foot. Now, I do play snooker left handed, but I write right handed and kick football right handed, as well as other right handed things. There are still more orthodox fighters out there, sure. But it's not a massive difference. Btw, any orthodox out there who are very much leftie dominant?

    You're not a real Southpaw


  • #44
    walshb
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    TheGlitchKing wrote: »
    I was speaking in terms of natural southpaws. There's a difference between using southpaw as a style and using southpaw because you're left handed. Left handed people are natural southpaws.

    Boxers who use both typically switch back and forth between styles that suit them. Often when an orthodox using southpaw gets rattled he will immediately revert back to his orthodox style. These boxers are not southpaws, they are orthodoxies who use southpaw, but they are not southpaws.

    It is possible for an orthodoxy to make the full switch to southpaw, but these guys are probably rarer than natural souths themselves, and you would have to wonder if the advantage gained is worth the time spent adapting to a different style when they could be spending that time mastering their own.

    In a nut shell, training against a fake southpaw to prepare for a real southpaw is like sparring against Butterbean to prepare you for Wlad.
    efb wrote: »
    You're not a real Southpaw

    Define a real southpaw? In boxing terms a southpaw is one who leads with his right foot, and who uses his right hand as his jab-lead hand, and uses the left hand to throw most of the more forceful shots. Nowhere does it ever define a southpaw in boxing terms as one who has to be a leftie, or left-handed.

    Btw, I qouted efb. Not sure how the other poster is appearing as being quoted.


  • #45
    efb
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    walshb wrote: »
    Define a real southpaw? In boxing terms a southpaw is one who leads with his right foot, and who uses his right hand as his jab-lead hand, and uses the left hand to throw most of the more forceful shots. Nowhere does it ever define a southpaw in boxing terms as one who has to be a leftie, or left-handed.

    Btw, I qouted efb. Not sure how the other poster is appearing as being quoted.

    You lead with your dominant hand, like most 10 year old kids, you are fighting southpaw style, but as your dominant hand is your right you are not a real southpaw


  • #46
    TheGlitchKing
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    walshb wrote: »
    Southpaws exist due to how comfortable they feel standing right or left footed. I am a right handed southpaw. No matter what I just didn't have the same feel and balance and comfort leading withleft foot. Now, I do play snooker left handed, but I write right handed and kick football right handed, as well as other right handed things. There are still more orthodox fighters out there, sure. But it's not a massive difference. Btw, any orthodox out there who are very much leftie dominant?

    There's a world of difference between a natural southpaw and a learned one.

    Simply put, some people are right handed and some are left handed. Some people can learn to write with both hands but you will always be either right or left handed and 9/10 you will always be better at writing (and doing everything) with your natural hand.


  • #47
    walshb
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    efb wrote: »
    You lead with your dominant hand, like most 10 year old kids, you are fighting southpaw style, but as your dominant hand is your right you are not a real southpaw

    Not a real southpaw is nonsense. You clearly do not understand what a southpaw is in boxing terms. I am a southpaw, end of story. Using words like 'real' is where you are off....

    There are simply two types of southpaws. One's who are very much left hand doninant, or leftie dominant, and southpaws that are more right side-handed dominant. I am the latter. Does not at all make me not a 'real' southpaw.


  • #48
    walshb
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    TheGlitchKing wrote: »
    There's a world of difference between a natural southpaw and a learned one.

    Simply put, some people are right handed and some are left handed. Some people can learn to write with both hands but you will always be either right or left handed and 9/10 you will always be better at writing (and doing everything) with your natural hand.

    I am not a learned southpaw.... It was always far more natural for me to lead with right foot and with right hand. Pure instinct and natural.

    Someone help me out here?


  • #49
    walshb
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    Btw, it never sat with me that a coach asks one question: What hand do you write with? Depending on the answer the coach decided which foot the child would lead with. My approach would alway be 'which stance are you more balanced and comfortable with?'

    A southpaw is as much, and possibly more to do with the lead foot comfortableness as it is about what hand you write with, or what foot you kick with. There are lefties and righties and everything in between. Ambidextrous peole also exist in this world.


  • #50
    efb
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    walshb wrote: »
    Not a real southpaw is nonsense. You clearly do not understand what a southpaw is in boxing terms. I am a southpaw, end of story. Using words like 'real' is where you are off....

    There are simply two types of southpaws. One's who are very much left hand doninant, or leftie dominant, and southpaws that are more right side-handed dominant. I am the latter. Does not at all make me not a 'real' southpaw.

    If I don't agree with you I must be wrong- balls! You lead with your dominant hand you are not a real southpaw


  • #51
    efb
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    walshb wrote: »
    I am not a learned southpaw.... It was always far more natural for me to lead with right foot and with right hand. Pure instinct and natural.

    Someone help me out here?

    It is natural to lead with your dominant hand, but boxers use their dominant hand for the big shots, not the jabs


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  • #52
    efb
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    Walshb- what's your strongest punch?


  • #53
    walshb
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    efb wrote: »
    Walshb- what's your strongest punch?

    Being a more right dominant southpaw I would say a right hook or straight left. My right hand is very strong on the jab, being more right handed than left handed.


  • #54
    walshb
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    efb wrote: »
    If I don't agree with you I must be wrong- balls! You lead with your dominant hand you are not a real southpaw

    Using words like 'real southpaw' does make you wrong here. Words like more natural or normal southpaw does not make you wrong. Disagreeing is fine. If I said 2+2 is 4, and you said it was not, well you would be wrong. Disagreeing does mot make you wrong. Facts do.


  • #55
    efb
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    walshb wrote: »
    Being a more right dominant southpaw I would say a roght hook or straight left. My right hand is very strong on the jab, being more right handed than left handed.

    Mine is my left cross, my right jab wasn't amazing but caught the star boxer once lovely in the club in a spar a right jab his hands moved south, smash, left cross, bloody nose central. Eh... Sorry mate but I told you you drop your hands!!!

    He could have killed me if he wanted but acknowledged it was a great punch


  • #56
    efb
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    walshb wrote: »
    Using words like 'real southpaw' does make you wrong here. Words like more natural or normal southpaw does not make you wrong. Disagreeing is fine. If I said 2+2 is 4, and you said it was not, well you would be wrong. Disagreeong does mot make you wrong. Facts do.

    Show me the factual definition that proves me wrong so


  • #57
    walshb
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    efb wrote: »
    Show me the factual definition that proves me wrong so

    You are the one who said I was not a real southpaw. It is up you to show this. It is not out there. You are wrong, because saying I am not a real southpaw based off the fact that I write with my right hand, this is what you seem to be basing it off, is wrong. Maybe you could actually explain why I am not a real southpaw, instead of just making the erroneous claim. The word resl is what makes the claim wrong. The dictionary definition of a southpaw in boxing never says that 'I am' not a real southpaw. Look it up. It's clear.


  • #58
    efb
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    walshb wrote: »
    You are the one who said I was not a real southpaw. It is up you to show this. It is not out there. You are wrong, because saying I am not a real southpaw based off the fact that I write with my left-hand, this is what you seem to be basing it off, is wrong. Maybe you could actually explain why I am not a real southpaw, instead of just making the erroneous claim. The word resl is what nakes the claim wrong.

    Your dominant hand is your right. That's why.


  • #59
    walshb
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    efb wrote: »
    Your dominant hand is your right. That's why.

    That is a fact. I am right hand dominant. Please get back to me to explain why I an not a real southpaw. That is what you claimed. When I first boxed aged 8 I led with right foot. Never ever led with left foot. It never felt normal or comfortable.

    Either get back to me with some real proof that I am not a real southpaw or we'll move on....


  • #60
    efb
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    walshb wrote: »
    That is a fact. I am right hand dominant. Please get back to me to explain why I an not a real southpaw. That is what you claimed. When I first boxed aged 8 I led with right foot. Never ever led with left foot. It never felt normal or comfortable.

    Either get back to me with some real proof that I am not a real southpaw or we'll move on....


    I'm done with you along time ago.

    I will say people who lead with their dominant right hand are not real southpaw regardless of what you say


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  • #61
    TheGlitchKing
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    walshb wrote: »
    You are the one who said I was not a real southpaw. It is up you to show this. It is not out there. You are wrong, because saying I am not a real southpaw based off the fact that I write with my left-hand, this is what you seem to be basing it off, is wrong. Maybe you could actually explain why I am not a real southpaw, instead of just making the erroneous claim. The word resl is what makes the claim wrong. The dictionary definition of a southpaw in boxing never says that 'I am' not a real southpaw. Look it up. It's clear.

    I would use the term natural over real.

    Like naturally right handed or naturally left handed


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