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My 1986 Mercedes 190 'Cosworth'

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  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭winnie the schtink


    lovely lovely motor,once you have the auto box in it will be perfect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    lovely lovely motor,once you have the auto box in it will be perfect
    It is manual, thankfully :). Nothing wrong with the automatic, but in this model manual fits much better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭Jim79


    this is very impressive work. well done to u and happy driving:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭CorkMan_


    Love it! Will you want to drive it after getting it minty mint?! Fantastic car. And work done to it, thanks for sharing :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭goochy


    Nice car but please fit original wheels !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    goochy wrote: »
    Nice car but please fit original wheels !

    I reckon if there's an appropriate set of alloys for an 80's German performance car, it's something by BBS. Works for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    CorkMan_ wrote: »
    Love it! Will you want to drive it after getting it minty mint?! Fantastic car. And work done to it, thanks for sharing :)

    Oh yes.. :)

    it turns 30 in May and will be on Irish plates for the first time, so odd trip to work on a sunny Friday will do me!


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    goochy wrote: »
    Nice car but please fit original wheels !

    the original wheel I think was a 15" 15 hole rim but I'm on the look out for them in 16" which came on the EVO1 model,

    Mercedes_Benz_Evolution_1%20(1).jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    alastair wrote: »
    I reckon if there's an appropriate set of alloys for an 80's German performance car, it's something by BBS. Works for me.

    very true...

    when I bought the car it had a set of modern looking 5 spoke 17" alloys that really didnt suit the car at all!... so the BBS replicas I got were the most suitable wheel at the time,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭w124man


    kop77 wrote: »
    the original wheel I think was a 15" 15 hole rim but I'm on the look out for them in 16" which came on the EVO1 model,


    I have a set of 8.25 x 17 Evo 11 and a set of 8x16 15 hole alloys!


    Just saying!


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    ^^^ PM sent...



    so as I was saying earlier the car will be on Irish plates soon.... which would suit her best, ZV or 86 LS xxxxx?



    .


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭CorkMan_


    I'd have to say '86 plate as the ZV looks too old to be on what still looks a modern enough car. Plus the ZV plates have stupidly long numbers now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    I'd love to know what the next 86 LS number is,


    Says you... you'll find out in May!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭goochy


    normally prefer zv on cars but not on this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    I'd nearly be looking at CW - "Cosworth". Or is that a cardinal sin in your neck of the woods. :)

    Either way definitely go for the "86 XX ...." format. Looks way better on that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    I thought the choice was done away with, it was ZV only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭WDB123


    86 LS 190 2.3 or 190 16 never issued !!! if you are gonna keep it, would be worth it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    WDB123 wrote: »
    86 LS 190 2.3 or 190 16 never issued !!! if you are gonna keep it, would be worth it

    You'd have a hell of a wait to get one of those numbers. :pac:

    86 LS 185 is the nearest to 86 LS 190 I found on motorcheck.ie, so just import 4 more 1986 cars, pay €200 each VRT, then flog them off later to get the number.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭WDB123


    Red Kev wrote: »
    You'd have a hell of a wait to get one of those numbers. :pac:

    86 LS 185 is the nearest to 86 LS 190 I found on motorcheck.ie, so just import 4 more 1986 cars, pay €200 each VRT, then flog them off later to get the number.

    or just buy the number ;) :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    kop77 wrote: »
    the original wheel I think was a 15" 15 hole rim but I'm on the look out for them in 16" which came on the EVO1 model,

    Mercedes_Benz_Evolution_1%20(1).jpg

    .............use R129 SL wheels. Same design as original but 16". Ive seen a few with them on it and its a real subtle upgrade. Plenty show up on ebay.de


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  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    Red Kev wrote: »
    You'd have a hell of a wait to get one of those numbers. :pac:

    86 LS 185 is the nearest to 86 LS 190 I found on motorcheck.ie, so just import 4 more 1986 cars, pay €200 each VRT, then flog them off later to get the number.

    I got the car cleared today for 200 Euro but was surprised to see the range of reg numbers for Laois are 86 LS 6000 onwards,

    seemingly the range was re-set in 2011 for cars, Laois got 86-LS-6000 onwards, Offaly got 86-OY-7000 onwards so other counties might have a similar format,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    Would you not prefer ZV alternative?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭ht9zni1gs28crp


    The ZV is okay for pre 80's cars IMHO. The 80's was the decade we saw the format change to what we know it as today. Probably closer to original than a ZV with 7 digits after it.

    Also to the great unwashed I think its a nicer clue for them to the cars age.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    MercMad wrote: »
    .............use R129 SL wheels. Same design as original but 16". Ive seen a few with them on it and its a real subtle upgrade. Plenty show up on ebay.de

    I have a full set with new tyres if interested. You'd need to check the offset though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭wyf437gn6btzue


    Beautiful car


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    Hi all...

    a while back I reluctantly put my valver up on DoneDeal for €15,000. I had a few calls but decided to take down the advert the following day (my wife went nuts when I told her I was going to sell it!!:pac:)

    anyway..., I'm still thinking of selling it and wondering if Merlin auctions would be my best bet!

    I've worked on this car over the last 8 years so there is a lot of sentimental value there so I just want to drop it off and hopefully collect a cheque instead of having people coming to my house and me spending an hour going through all the work I've done!!

    any thoughts would be appreciated, especially on the price of €15k

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    Get a full pdf together with all work done, photos etc. Email this to any prospective buyer. Tell them to have a look through it and get back to you after. There are serious buyers out there, but there's a load of chatters and messers.

    Tell any callers that you won't be letting anybody take a test drive unless you know for a fact that they've €15,000 in cash deposited somewhere.

    I'd put it up for sale on a site like carsireland, ignore adverts.ie completely. Donedeal will have a fair few idiots ringing as well, but it's the biggest site here.

    Also take it along to the next cars and coffee meet, if there's one near you.

    Put it up on any owners club sites here. Also, you should advertise it in the UK, on owners sites as well as a couple of the good classic car sites. Mention that it's originally a UK car (which I presume it is based on the reg).

    I'd personally set up an email account and phone number just for selling the car and possibly get professional photos taken in a studio for a small fee.

    Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭goochy


    Get rid of those wheels they are nice but in a classic original is best and make it more of a q car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Put up more pix! :) Agree about the wheels though - the 190e should really come with the chunky 5 spoke originals to my mind (the 15 hole and 8 hole ones are okay).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭goochy


    5 spoke originals?? Should be 15 hole


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    I like the wheels, and I'm usually a stickler for original stuff!

    190's don't usually float my boat but that is a beautiful example. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭WDB123


    set of evo1s :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭vjmcdonnell


    A stunning car, so sad u are letting it go.
    Advertise it in the UK as has to one of the best going.

    Im gutted for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭dar_cool


    Forget about merlins or any of them classic car auctions. The way they treat the cars is shocking. It would have to be a special car to make people travel over from the uk. But stick it on pistonheads. Ive sold a few cars to uk buyers mainly jap imports that were hard to come by over there. Cracking looking car by the way. These are sure to be a 30k car in the very near future. I understand circumstances change and might need to free up funds but if you can at all keep it. Great investment to have. My brother had an e30 m3 and sold it a few years back for 19k which at the time was a great price but he probably would get 40/50 for it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭WDB123


    The Uk is a funny market and specialist cars at high values are few,history owners who restored the car are all a factor,As we all know the condition of a restoration is the big one and if its worth the big money it will reach it.Have it valued by the Mercedes Club,some of the best examples of w201 are members cars.Many auction houses in the UK would give an idea and charge 5% of the sale price which is not the worst and people see what they are buying in the flesh.It is hard to sell a car in UK from Ireland,I know ive tried it a few times,but the auction is a good route or a specialist dealear to sell it on your behalf is an option.It will need an MOT and back on UK plates to achieve best price,without you are at nothing!!!.Thats a good car and will sell and I hope you achieve a price that you are happy with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭J.R.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭corks finest


    kop77 wrote: »
    as per title I'd like to present my 1986 Mercedes 190 'Cosworth' 2.3 16v

    I've had here for 5 years now and it's almost ready for road....:)

    Mercedes_Cosworth_2_3_16v.jpg


    Mercedes_Cosworth_Engine.jpg

    Mercedes_Cosworth_Engine_2.jpg


    Dash.jpg

    Mercedes_Cosworth_i.jpg

    fully refurbed rear subframe... just a sample of the work done to her,


    image.jpg
    Salivating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,587 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    That is Beautiful,
    It would kill me to get rid of it if I owned it.
    I love those 190E Cosworths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭w124man


    Surprised its not sold


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭goochy


    Sick of saying it - must be wheels . If I passed it on road i would assume it's a boyracer who has blinged up a 190


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    Hasn't been sold because its not for sale!


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    goochy wrote: »
    Sick of saying it - must be wheels . If I passed it on road i would assume it's a boyracer who has blinged up a 190

    The wheels are staying because I like them, even if its gets the usual frowns from the "experts" as I pass them by... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭ht9zni1gs28crp


    kop77 wrote: »
    The wheels are staying because I like them, even if its gets the usual frowns from the "experts" as I pass them by... :rolleyes:

    Looks awesome as it is fella, if the classic experts had the say we would all be driving brown Morris Marinas :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    I was going to suggest that you crowd-fund to generate money to enable you keep this car that you've invested a lot into (far more than monetary investment), but it appears that your circumstances have changed and that you've changed your mind about selling it. I hope you can keep it. I'd have contributed a donation for the crowd-fund. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭kop77


    I put the car up on DoneDeal back in March for a few days and I got a couple of offers but nowhere near what they are making,

    I took down the advert and asked advice here on the best way to sell it but I decided not to in the end - that was back in March and it has not been advertised anywhere since then,

    sorry if this has put anyone out but its not for sale!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭goochy


    Each to their own I suppose , just believe in originality and really like the look of that car as standard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭w124man


    There's a 2.5-16 in a garage in Enniscorthy waiting for some TLC. Looks good


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13 John_Snow


    That's a stunning car kop77, its only going to get more valuable as the years go on! :)

    ps. I like the wheels, they really suit it!
    anyway wheels are like a pair of shoes.. you can always change them!!


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