Brendan Rodgers sacked.

Richard Hillman

Liverpool should be moving heaven and earth to get Ancelotti. Ancelotti likes the football culture in England and has said recently that he isn't really interested in going back to Italy because of all of the off the field stuff with hooligans and corruption.

If Ancelotti cannot win the league with Liverpool, they may as well pack the club up and build a museum at Anfield

Oranage2

Liverpool is a funny club, and as Jamie carragher said they are becoming spurs.

Financially they're not a top club, but the fans are living in the past and expectations for the club are usually deluded.

Saying that, Rodgers is a talented manager, but he was clearly out of his depth managing Liverpool, defensively so naive, terrible in the transfer market 300m spent on mostly crap. His football wasn't bad but just not good enough in the end.

I also think klopp and anchiloti are pipe dreams, there's no benefit what so ever.

Orange is right in everything he said..

Streetwalker

Oranage2 wrote: »

Liverpool is a funny club, and as Jamie carragher said they are becoming spurs.

Financially they're not a top club, but the fans are living in the past and expectations for the club are usually deluded.

Saying that, Rodgers is a talented manager, but he was clearly out of his depth managing Liverpool, defensively so naive, terrible in the transfer market 300m spent on mostly crap. His football wasn't bad but just not good enough in the end.

I also think klopp and anchiloti are pipe dreams, there's no benefit what so ever.

So Forbes putting Liverpool as the 8th biggest club on the planet in terms of finance are wrong and in fact we aren't a "top" club financially? Ok so.

quarryman

Deleted User wrote: »

Liverpool are, realistically, a club that should aim for 5th. That's no slight on them, no one who followed football in the 80s could predict a day when clubs like Man City and Chelsea would be bigger by dint of the lottery of who buys them. But they are. And Rodgers was not miles off 5th, he's brought Liverpool well above that in the past with one great goalscorer. Think he deserved a bit more slack, if Everton do well Liverpool could become the city's 2nd club and could go the way of Villa, the whole sense of entitlement in football is gone.

Oranage2 wrote: »

Liverpool is a funny club, and as Jamie carragher said they are becoming spurs.

Financially they're not a top club, but the fans are living in the past and expectations for the club are usually deluded.

Saying that, Rodgers is a talented manager, but he was clearly out of his depth managing Liverpool, defensively so naive, terrible in the transfer market 300m spent on mostly crap. His football wasn't bad but just not good enough in the end.

I also think klopp and anchiloti are pipe dreams, there's no benefit what so ever.

I've been saying exactly that for years now but get attacked on here for anything that correctly points out Liverpool should consider 5th/6th place in the league a good result.

Jamie said it best:

Liverpool are becoming Tottenham. They think they are a big club but the real big clubs are not too worried about them

Streetwalker

Streetwalker wrote: »

So Forbes putting Liverpool as the 8th biggest club on the planet in terms of finance are wrong and in fact we aren't a "top" club financially? Ok so.

And rank Arsenal, Man City, ManU and Chelsea as richer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27_list_of_the_most_valuable_football_clubs

Other clubs in the top 20 include Newcastle and West Ham.

LiamoSail

I'd give it to Ronnie Pickering

Irishcrx

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Gone is our passing game and if Kloop is confirmed we will play hoof it football. Are people happy with the way Kloop plays, he is so direct. It's like we want the '' name'' but don't realize that his philosophy is to play direct football. Fans will hate it.

It's not so much a hoof ball style he plays , it's more of a very fast counter attacking style with a lot of width, the direct play comes on the ground down the channels, it's very high tempo and hard pressing, players need to be extremely tuned in and fit.

I think it will work in the premier league but Liverpool will need a lot of new players for the system.

In saying that , as a Utd fan I'd hate to see Klopp go to Liverpool it's a mssive undertaking their and he'd be taking a big risk. FSG will have to give him a fairly big contract and drop their transfer board with him.

It's not a done deal by any manner , wouldn't be surprised at all to see a Pardew (Who I think is a great manager BTW) or Koeman go in, good managers but a level below Klopp and Ancelotti.

cadete

Not a Liverpool fan but personally feel a bit sorry for Rodgers, players let him down, and of the 300m spent how much say had he in who it was spent on? I don't like this era of players being bought by whoever and the head coach has to fit them in! Balotelli being a prime example! Imo Ian ayre every bit as responsible for the current situation as Rodgers

flanzer

LiamoSail wrote: »

I'd give it to Ronnie Pickering

Who? :pac:

LiamoSail

flanzer wrote: »

Who? :pac:

RONNIE PICKERING

Saipanne

Why would a top manager like Ancelotti take this job? Liverpool are basically a feeder club for the true giants of European football these days.

crushproof

LiamoSail wrote: »

RONNIE PICKERING

Eh? Who's that then? :rolleyes:

citytillidie

Saipanne wrote: »

Why would a top manager like Ancelotti take this job? Liverpool are basically a feeder club for the true giants of European football these days.

Would not call Man City a giant in European football

recylingbin

Would like to see them look at Derek McInnes as well as the soup of the day type managers. He's been doing a great job and his team play some nice ball.

Amirani

Streetwalker wrote: »

So Forbes putting Liverpool as the 8th biggest club on the planet in terms of finance are wrong and in fact we aren't a "top" club financially? Ok so.

Internationally yes, but not domestically when there's 4 richer clubs in the same league.

Saipanne

Liverpool would sure love to be in their shoes, though.

*Awaits old man's tales from the 80's*

MightyMandarin

Saipanne wrote: »

Why would a top manager like Ancelotti take this job? Liverpool are basically a feeder club for the true giants of European football these days.

Despite what many on here seem to think, Liverpool still has a good reputation among those in football and becoming manager would not be akin to managing Swansea, Southampton or Spurs. If you want an example to compare us with it's AC or Inter Milan, who somehow still manage to attract top players despite their poor performances in SerieA over past seasons.

Saipanne

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Despite what many on here seem to think, Liverpool still has a good reputation among those in football and becoming manager would not be akin to managing Swansea, Southampton or Spurs. If you want an example to compare us with it's AC or Inter Milan, who somehow still manage to attract top players despite their poor performances in SerieA over past seasons.

Still a feeder club.

Rayne Wooney

Hearing a Liverpool fan say they are a big club is like hearing a child saying they are a "big boy" or girl. If they say it enough eventually the parents will give in and say yes they are

Probably the 6th best squad in the league, 5th/6th would be a good season, Rodgers didn't do too badly probably about par, but spent too much doing it. Klopp would be a coup it's suprising he hasn't had a better offer, perfect timing maybe.

LiamoSail

Saipanne wrote: »

Why would a top manager like Ancelotti take this job? Liverpool are basically a feeder club for the true giants of European football these days.

Every premier leGue club are basically feeder clubs to the true giants of European football.

Streetwalker

Liverpool despite it all are the 8th richest club on the planet and have a massive worldwide fanbase the envy of smaller clubs like Spurs or Everton. With the proper manager in place and the new stadium up and running they are a club going places.

Streetwalker

Amirani wrote: »

Internationally yes, but not domestically when there's 4 richer clubs in the same league.

Bend the figure whichever way pleases your good self fact remains Liverpool aren't a club in terminal decline like a Leeds or Aston Villa but have seen their finances and fan base actually grow the last few seasons despite winning the square root of sfa and nearly going out of business a few years back due to the exploits of two fools as owners. A mystery I know but there you have it.

LiamoSail

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Hearing a Liverpool fan say they are a big club is like hearing a child saying they are a "big boy" or girl. If they say it enough eventually the parents will give in and say yes they are

Probably the 6th best squad in the league, 5th/6th would be a good season, Rodgers didn't do too badly probably about par, but spent too much doing it. Klopp would be a coup it's suprising he hasn't had a better offer, perfect timing maybe.

So Liverpool aren't a big club because they've been ****e for a few years. Where does that leave Milan or Ajax or Celtic?

A big club is a big club because of what they've achieved over generations, not a few seasons

niallo27

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Hearing a Liverpool fan say they are a big club is like hearing a child saying they are a "big boy" or girl. If they say it enough eventually the parents will give in and say yes they are

Probably the 6th best squad in the league, 5th/6th would be a good season, Rodgers didn't do too badly probably about par, but spent too much doing it. Klopp would be a coup it's suprising he hasn't had a better offer, perfect timing maybe.

If they are not a big club why do you spend most of your time on here talking about them.

jmayo

Paully D wrote: »

The right decision.

One superb season but for the £290m he has spent you really expect something similar every year. He has been utterly horrendous in the transfer market and you couldn't really expect Liverpool to put their hands in their pocket for him again given his record.

Presuming it's Klopp or Ancelotti taking over, I think it'd be difficult for anyone to realistically criticise his dismissal IMO. Ancelotti would be a real next level appointment though, if I were the Liverpool owners I'd throw whatever it took at him to get him in.

Why do Liverpool fans think Ancelotti is a prime candidate ?

Look at Ancelotti's CV.

Apart from his start with Reggiana, he has managed teams that were in the top 2/3 in their leagues at the time.
He managed Parma to second after they had just won the UEFA cup the year before he arrived.
He took over Juventus from Lippi who had won Seria A titles and gotten them to two CL finals in preceeding years.
The Milan team he took over in 2001 had won the Seria A in 1998/99.

Then he went to Chelsea.

PSG were top of the League when he went there.
He took over Real Madrid when they had just finished second the year before.

I think Liverpool's recent history doesn't tie in with Ancelotti.

citytillidie wrote: »

Would not call Man City a giant in European football

They might not have the history or the trophies, but they do have the money.
Much like PSG.

Lovely Bloke

niallo27 wrote: »

If they are not a big club why do you spend most of your time on here talking about them.

oooohhhh superburn

LiamoSail

jmayo wrote: »

Why do Liverpool fans think Ancelotti is a prime candidate ?

Look at Ancelotti's CV.

Apart from his start with Reggiana, he has managed teams that were in the top 2/3 in their leagues at the time.
He managed Parma to second after they had just won the UEFA cup the year before he arrived.
He took over Juventus from Lippi who had won Seria A titles and gotten them to two CL finals in preceeding years.
The Milan team he took over in 2001 had won the Seria A in 1998/99.

Then he went to Chelsea.

PSG were top of the League when he went there.
He took over Real Madrid when they had just finished second the year before.

I think Liverpool's recent history doesn't tie in with Ancelotti.

Agree entirely. I don't see how Ancelotti would fit. Great manager, but has always had a great side to guide to success. Different situation here where he'd have the 5th/6th best squad in the league. Would be a bit like giving Wenger or Guadiola the Sunderland job, as good as both are, I couldn't see it working

Ardent

Balotelli was a gamble on the part of Rogers. Google Steven Gerrard's recent comments on this.

CSF

Who have City had to sell? Chelsea?