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Aim point - please explain how to use

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,742 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Russman wrote: »
    Because (and it's purely my opinion) I think that players straddling their own line does in fact breach the rule that states you can't touch your line (16-1a), specifically the reasonable distance either side of it part.

    I'll grant you it can't be banned in fairness, but the act of standing on or near the line, halfway along its length, for me, is a bit much.

    That, and I honestly think it looks ridiculous, but that's neither here nor there.

    http://www.randa.org/en/RandA/News/News/2015/January/Rule-16-1a-Touching-the-Line-of-Putt-and-Players-Who-Straddle-or-Walk-Alongside-the-Line-of-Putt.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,742 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    That is great to read that there is action taking place.

    So if an "aimpointer" stands midpoint .

    Then hits a put that crosses where they were standing (even a pull or push) - that means 2 stroke penalty.

    Brilliant. They better practice their splits.

    antranik-left-front-splits-3-month-comparison.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mikepajero182


    Thats the exact link I posted earlier where the r and a re stated the rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,742 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Thats the exact link I posted earlier where the r and a re stated the rule.

    So ,

    "The same is true of any other practices used by players to gain information when their ball is on the putting green, such as walking alongside the line of putt to measure the distance to the hole or standing at a midpoint to the hole and hovering the putter over the line of putt. To avoid the risk of penalty, players or their caddies who take any such actions should take care to avoid touching the line of putt, which includes a reasonable distance on either side of the intended line, with their feet, the club, or anything else."

    How do you find midpoint of putt ?

    And then - have you never rolled a ball were you stood - even in error.


    You keep mentioning midpoint - how do you work out midpoint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mikepajero182


    No that would be ridiculous. Imagine pulling or pushing a putt over where you just walked and getting a penalty every time.

    The "line of putt" is the line that the player wishes his ball to take after a stroke on the putting green. Except with respect to Rule 16-1e, the line of putt includes a reasonable distance on either side of the intended line. The line of putt does not extend beyond the hole.

    Again an Aimpointer will never ever stand on his line. Who would want to?? You never straddle anything longer than a 3 or 4 footer. Longer than that you take the read on the low side of the line. No one would intentionally miss a putt lower than the slope.

    Anyways, seems you have Aimpoint written off already. And now I'm repeating things I have already said which is no fun so i'll leave it at that.

    Good luck with the games lads!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,742 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    No that would be ridiculous. Imagine pulling or pushing a putt over where you just walked and getting a penalty every time.

    The "line of putt" is the line that the player wishes his ball to take after a stroke on the putting green. Except with respect to Rule 16-1e, the line of putt includes a reasonable distance on either side of the intended line. The line of putt does not extend beyond the hole.

    Again an Aimpointer will never ever stand on his line. Who would want to?? You never straddle anything longer than a 3 or 4 footer. Longer than that you take the read on the low side of the line. No one would intentionally miss a putt lower than the slope.

    Anyways, seems you have Aimpoint written off already. And now I'm repeating things I have already said which is no fun so i'll leave it at that.

    Good luck with the games lads!

    Well it seems you have made up your mind too.

    We are golfers too.

    We have a right to say that the way the game is going is wrong.

    This is wrong - most golfers I play with wouldn't put up with it.

    How do you find mid point ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    No that would be ridiculous. Imagine pulling or pushing a putt over where you just walked and getting a penalty every time.

    The "line of putt" is the line that the player wishes his ball to take after a stroke on the putting green. Except with respect to Rule 16-1e, the line of putt includes a reasonable distance on either side of the intended line. The line of putt does not extend beyond the hole.

    Again an Aimpointer will never ever stand on his line. Who would want to?? You never straddle anything longer than a 3 or 4 footer. Longer than that you take the read on the low side of the line. No one would intentionally miss a putt lower than the slope.

    Anyways, seems you have Aimpoint written off already. And now I'm repeating things I have already said which is no fun so i'll leave it at that.

    Good luck with the games lads!

    I think the problem arises when players straddle the line for medium or long putts. And not straddle wide enough.
    I have seen a lot of guys on Vlogs and they all tend to straddle as opposed to doing (what Aimpoint recommends in fairness) it on the low side.

    This video more or less covers all eventualities.
    https://vimeo.com/134223583


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    stockdam wrote: »
    There are a couple of problems with this technique that are the same no matter how you try to read greens.


    Firstly it really only works on a simple slope........you can't do it on a putt that has several breaks.
    How do you estimate the slope on a scale of 0 to 7? That's pure guesswork (they say that you feel the slope using your feet/balance).
    What happens if the slope is more than 7 fingers (I guess you can use 8 (a pinkie is not as wide as a middle finger though).
    You have to pick out a mark on the green but what if there are none?
    The strength of your putt affects the way that the ball will break.
    If you don't hit the ball hard enough it will never drop anyway.
    You need to be able to roll the ball along the line that you are aiming.


    In reality it's more snake-oil. It makes you believe that there's science behind it and that it will help your putting.
    In reality there is no easy way to read the break of a green. It's down to experience and skill.

    Try it if you want but you will look silly using it when the ball breaks 2 feet more than you predicted.
    You forgot fat fingers as one of the variables.


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