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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    the lads are back in the area again today, opening manholes from the exchange working their way outwards, think they are pushing fibre through the ducts. The fiber in the duct still has to be connected in one or two places to the pole network and still some splice box's to install. Hopefully all will be completed and signed off by Christmas eve.

    There is one road here that still hasn't had any sign of work on it so that road must be happening later in 2017.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Gonzo wrote: »
    the lads are back in the area again today, opening manholes from the exchange working their way outwards, think they are pushing fibre through the ducts. The fiber in the duct still has to be connected in one or two places to the pole network and still some splice box's to install. Hopefully all will be completed and signed off by Christmas eve.

    There is one road here that still hasn't had any sign of work on it so that road must be happening later in 2017.

    There could be some (invisible to the passer-by) reason for that road being left until later. That run might require some specific work and is waiting for the correct crew to be available.
    It is looking positive for some connections to be available within the next month, in a number of areas.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    There could be some (invisible to the passer-by) reason for that road being left until later. That run might require some specific work and is waiting for the correct crew to be available.
    It is looking positive for some connections to be available within the next month, in a number of areas.

    at least 2 exchanges should have gone live yesterday, Inverin in County Galway near Galway Bay is one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Advbrd wrote: »
    Hi folks, In the last week there has been a lot of activity in my area (outside Johnstownbridge). The vans are labeled DeFusion and appear to be replacing a lot of poles. Is this to do with FTTH rollout? Has this company carried out FTTH related work in other areas. Am I getting my hopes up unnecessarily?

    Now that you mention DeFusion, I'd swear I saw a couple of their vans yesterday working on poles near the end of the blue line on the R503 heading from Newport towards Rearcross. There was an unmarked van there today, but I didn't see any bodies around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭jones


    Anyone heard anything about the rural side of Balbriggan? I was told it was included in the FTTH rollout by one of the Eir engineers but haven't seen them around in a while. Do you have to "opt in" to this or is it automatically upgraded?

    Sorry haven't read whole thread ITS LONG!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    jones wrote: »
    Anyone heard anything about the rural side of Balbriggan? I was told it was included in the FTTH rollout by one of the Eir engineers but haven't seen them around in a while. Do you have to "opt in" to this or is it automatically upgraded?

    Sorry haven't read whole thread ITS LONG!!!

    from the where and when - Balbriggan Exchange ->
    9630 premises in this exchange can now access up to 100Mb/s fibre broadband with 1070 premises able to access 1000Mb/s fibre


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Gonzo wrote: »
    at least 2 exchanges should have gone live yesterday, Inverin in County Galway near Galway Bay is one of them.

    Yup, Crosshaven was the other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Also looks as if the first 100k homes - exchanges have changed. Some other exchanges have been moved forward and others moved back. Yeah I think somebody else might have mentioned this a while back. I can see why openeir quit making announcements on what order they rollout.
    There could be a lot of potential for delays on certain exchanges due to the complexity of what they're doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 bigreddog


    Gonzo wrote: »
    at least 2 exchanges should have gone live yesterday, Inverin in County Galway near Galway Bay is one of them.
    Yep, have a splice box on the pole outside my house for the last few weeks, but still can't order on the Eir site. 
    'Eir' rep called around the last night and said it would be going live on the 28th, and if we didn't sign up before then we'd lose out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    bigreddog wrote: »
    Yep, have a splice box on the pole outside my house for the last few weeks, but still can't order on the Eir site. 
    'Eir' rep called around the last night and said it would be going live on the 28th, and if we didn't sign up before then we'd lose out!

    Lose out on what exactly the lottery? Such awful tw@ts! If anything when you don't rush into signing up you might get a better deal off a re-seller.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    bigreddog wrote: »
    Yep, have a splice box on the pole outside my house for the last few weeks, but still can't order on the Eir site. 
    'Eir' rep called around the last night and said it would be going live on the 28th, and if we didn't sign up before then we'd lose out!

    great that your going live but 'losing out' if you don't order now it complete bs, it's not like they are gonna take away the fiber if you don't order. Did he explain how you would 'lose out'?

    No Eir sales guys going around Dunshaughlin yet, i'd say we won't be going live till sometime January, but when we do i'd prefer to order it broadband only thought the website rather than talking to a sales rep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭jones


    damienirel wrote: »
    from the where and when - Balbriggan Exchange ->
    9630 premises in this exchange can now access up to 100Mb/s fibre broadband with 1070 premises able to access 1000Mb/s fibre

    So it's live now? I'm outside Balbriggan basically in the country and engineer told me a few months ago that i would be in the area that would be upgraded. I'm on 7mb line at the moment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Gonzo wrote: »
    great that your going live but 'losing out' if you don't order now it complete bs, it's not like they are gonna take away the fiber if you don't order. Did he explain how you would 'lose out'?

    No Eir sales guys going around Dunshaughlin yet, i'd say we won't be going live till sometime January, but when we do i'd prefer to order it broadband only thought the website rather than talking to a sales rep.

    If you have a dog - train him to bite guys with Eir bibs. If not get one!
    :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    jones wrote: »
    So it's live now? I'm outside Balbriggan basically in the country and engineer told me a few months ago that i would be in the area that would be upgraded. I'm on 7mb line at the moment

    check the map if you're on a blue line and that leads back to the Balbriggan exchange you could be eligible


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    jones wrote: »
    So it's live now? I'm outside Balbriggan basically in the country and engineer told me a few months ago that i would be in the area that would be upgraded. I'm on 7mb line at the moment

    no just the urban part of Balbriggan is live, totally unrelated to the rural fibre rollout in the area.

    As Balbriggan is only marked by 1 marker it just shows the FTTC and urban FTTH information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    bigreddog wrote: »
    Yep, have a splice box on the pole outside my house for the last few weeks, but still can't order on the Eir site. 
    'Eir' rep called around the last night and said it would be going live on the 28th, and if we didn't sign up before then we'd lose out!

    Are you on the Ennis exchange?
    or is it coincidental that the 28th is the date a rep mentioned for Ennis?

    Do NOT believe anything they say ....... neither firm date nor losing out.
    It is likely the date is reasonably accurate, as one month notice must be given to other providers before connections are sold/made(?).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Gonzo wrote: »
    no just the urban part of Balbriggan is live, totally unrelated to the rural fibre rollout in the area.

    As Balbriggan is only marked by 1 marker it just shows the FTTC and urban FTTH information.

    Shows how badly the map needs updating with information. I'd forgotten Balbriggan was one of the towns in the first rollout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Are you on the Ennis exchange?
    or is it coincidental that the 28th is the date a rep mentioned for Ennis?

    Do NOT believe anything they say ....... neither firm date nor losing out.
    It is likely the date is reasonably accurate, as one month notice must be given to other providers before connections are sold/made(?).

    Think it's Inverin - look at post responded to.
    Funny how the eir sales reps are first off the mark!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 bigreddog


    damienirel wrote: »
    Are you on the Ennis exchange?
    or is it coincidental that the 28th is the date a rep mentioned for Ennis?

    Do NOT believe anything they say .......  neither firm date nor losing out.
    It is likely the date is reasonably accurate, as one month notice must be given to other providers before connections are sold/made(?).

    Think it's Inverin - look at post responded to.
    Funny how the eir sales reps are first off the mark!
    Yeah, Inverin - I'm not going to move for a while anyway, as I'm still in contract, but I'll be going for the standalone option (and not through the rep either!).
    Funny - the Switcher.ie survey last month had Inverin as the second slowest area in the country! I'll be going from 2.8Mbps - can't wait!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    damienirel wrote: »
    Think it's Inverin - look at post responded to.
    Funny how the eir sales reps are first off the mark!

    Yeah, I had thought no one was allowed to sell their products on the service during that month.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Yeah, I had thought no one was allowed to sell their products on the service during that month.
    If there are rules to be broken Eir/OpenEir/Eircom will break them.
    So much for OpenEir being an independent company.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭legocrazy505


    Yeah, I had thought no one was allowed to sell their products on the service during that month.

    We were being sold FTTC a few months back by one of the countless Eir cold-calls advertising their "amazing" deals. FTTC is as of now supposedly 3-6 months away so definitely selling there in advance. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    From what I understand those eir 'reps' are not employed by eir at all but are independent ........ not sure how accurate that is as I have not had one call here, and am unlikely to for a couple of years it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 scottyboi_2016


    An update to the FTTH blue line roll out near Ennis, I have been told that eir 'representatives' have been calling door to door getting people to sign up for FTTH.
    They estimate the service should go live on 28th Dec.

    OK, I know ye cannot believe anything from a door-2-door salesperson, but it does seem indicative that connections will be available early in the new year to those living on the Doora side of Ennis.
    I have not heard anything about other blue line areas around Ennis.

    ... and of course my own location has seen no work at all yet so I will be waiting for another year or two it seems.

    Had that as well, pressure sales tactic saying if you didn't order there nad then you would never get it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,233 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    KN vans have arrived in Kinvara, a Van, a truck and one of those lifty trucks to get a guy up to the poles were parked up next to where the manhole crews were working. Not on my road but they should be over to me next. No big rolls of cable though, hopefully that is on the way and they aren't just doing more prep work.

    Not getting hopes up but it is a good sign that this much work has happened close together that they are pushing to hit the March 2017 mark for the first 100K.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    lots of action here today as well, more cabling going on, also the pole about 800 meters away from me that had a D on it for past year is being replaced with new pole. KN and Open Eir guys up checking cables and wiring. Saw around 5 Open Eir vans, 2 KN Vans and 1 large KN truck filled with new telephone poles in the general area this morning. With this amount of work still going on and more splicing to finish, I don't think the exchange will be signed off before Christmas, probably looking at late January before area goes live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    There has been a Techbytes update from Openeir, the first since the end of September. Dungloe (Donegal) and Inverin (Galway) are partially live with 351 premises passed out of a planned 1290.

    http://www.openeir.ie/techbytes/open_eir_brings_high_speed_broadband_to_577_additional_premises_nationwide_20122016/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 superloopy


    A cynical person might gather from that techbytes update by OpenEir that they have put their FTTH work on the back burner. It's like they stopped updating and replying to people just about the time the government said the NBP would be delayed.

    But I can't be that cynical. I have no facts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭legocrazy505


    superloopy wrote: »
    A cynical person might gather from that techbytes update by OpenEir that they have put their FTTH work on the back burner. It's like they stopped updating and replying to people just about the time the government said the NBP would be delayed.

    But I can't be that cynical. I have no facts.

    Or maybe it being the winter months things are slow? I think we all know this rollout is a "oh look at how great we are!" bid for the NBP just like Siro's rollout but I think it being the winter work is slower than it hopefully will be come spring.

    Keep in mind though there is definitely more action happening now then there was a few months back but given the process involved these reports of wiring up and poles will take time to complete.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    That techbytes update is dreadful, if that's all they have to show for the last few months, with no updates only dates getting pushed out.
    There seems to have been a major slowdown on the surface - one can only hope they are slowed down by winter weather and re-training of staff to deal with the new network - otherwise it's brutal progress or lack of.

    On the other hand this looks positive:
    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/eir-beefs-up-board-ahead-of-possible-flotation-in-2018-1.2912663


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