Alien: Covenant *Spoilers from post 747*

The White Wolf

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Have a read of the original script of Prometheus (when it was still called Alien: Engineers). It explains everything. The engineers found the deacon on a planet (this is the very life form depicted in the mural) They worshiped it as the thought is was the greatest example of evolution. The substance that the engineer drinks at the start of Prometheus is the actual blood of the deacon.

Ah...so the Deacon isn't what we've come to know as a Xenomorph?

Kidchameleon

The White Wolf wrote: »

Ah...so the Deacon isn't what we've come to know as a Xenomorph?

Well, bear in mind the draft script is not cannon. They found the deacon and for whatever reason, knew it was the last one. They tried to recreate one by seeding planets (like we saw at the start of Prometheus)


A summary you may find interesting:


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=301490

Tony EH

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Have a read of the original script of Prometheus (when it was still called Alien: Engineers). It explains everything. The engineers found the deacon on a planet (this is the very life form depicted in the mural) They worshiped it as the thought is was the greatest example of evolution. The substance that the engineer drinks at the start of Prometheus is the actual blood of the deacon.

As bad as Ridley Scott's destruction of the Alien series has been, the above doesn't sound any better.

How can a supposedly intelligent set of beings, like the "Engineers" think that the deacon or xenomorph be "the greatest example of evolution", or worse yet, "worship" it. These creatures just breed and destroy everything. Not exactly a high standard of evolution.

I suppose one could say that about these piss poor Alien prequels too.

pixelburp

If there's one positive to be taken out of the Fox-Disney merger, it's that apparently future Alien (and DieHard, to name another) projects have been shelved. The franchise is dead, the inherent mystery and danger deriving from this unknowable horror eroded by Scott's two followups. Prometheus still gets a pass from me, if only because it kept that mystery just about contained behind the veil of the ruined Engineer ship. Covenant blew that mystery out of the water though, and as said above, reduced the xenomorphs to an invention by a mad-scientist-android. Welp. From a cosmic horror, to a Frankenstein's monster, what a comedown.

Kidchameleon

Tony EH wrote: »

As bad as Ridley Scott's destruction of the Alien series has been, the above doesn't sound any better.

How can a supposedly intelligent set of beings, like the "Engineers" think that the deacon or xenomorph be "the greatest example of evolution", or worse yet, "worship" it. These creatures just breed and destroy everything. Not exactly a high standard of evolution.

I suppose one could say that about these piss poor Alien prequels too.

True enough. I would say that had they made Covenant at the time is was called Paradise Lost, it would have lifted the first film though.

I enjoyed the recent films for all their flaws.

Mr_Muffin

"I'll do the fingering".

Man Vs ManUre

Prometheus was great but this Covenant was absolute rubbish.

Homelander

Prometheus gets a rough time for some reason but I thought it was the best film since Aliens and genuinely a great, moody and atmospheric film with decent horror elements. Covenant was fairly terrible, totally brainless and destroyed the mystery and potential surrounding the origin of the Xeno. I'd say Alien, Aliens, Prometheus, Alien3, Covenant, Resurrection, but the last two are particularly bad.

Mike Litoris

Homelander wrote: »

Prometheus gets a rough time for some reason but I thought it was the best film since Aliens and genuinely a great, moody and atmospheric film with decent horror elements.

I agree but some of the characters were ropey and the dialogue was atrocious in places. Still thoroughly enjoyed it though.