english Llewellyn setter.

Hunter456

7 month old setter got her today off a friend, very promising dog.

arrowloopboy

had 2 of these in my day,if you can control them ,their the best setting dog bar none,savage engine in them.

Dawggone

Hunter456 wrote: »

7 month old setter got her today off a friend, very promising dog.

Was there a bird where pup was pointing?

Perazzi

Best of luck keep posting her progress

Hunter456

Dawggone wrote: »

Was there a bird where pup was pointing?

To be honest iv seen pheasants around that area so she might have being setting on a scent. Her previous owner had her setting on a wing and She was solid. progress and patience is key.

browning fusion

Was she bred in limerick fine looking dog

Hunter456

browning fusion wrote: »

Was she bred in limerick fine looking dog

As fare as I'm aware this dog was breed in limerick.

browning fusion

Hunter456 wrote: »

As fare as I'm aware this dog was breed in limerick.

It looks like a pup of my dog should be a cracker
Was she registered?

Dawggone

Hunter456 wrote: »

To be honest iv seen pheasants around that area so she might have being setting on a scent. Her previous owner had her setting on a wing and She was solid. progress and patience is key.

I could never understand the wing (sight) pointing malarkey.
English setters can often have too much setting in them...
I prefer setters that come late to pointing as they usually are cleaner. False setting is a hateful fault.

browning fusion

Dawggone wrote: »

I could never understand the wing (sight) pointing malarkey.
English setters can often have too much setting in them...
I prefer setters that come late to pointing as they usually are cleaner. False setting is a hateful fault.

There's pros and cons there is also nothing worse that a setting dog flushing everything out of range

Dawggone

browning fusion wrote: »

There's pros and cons there is also nothing worse that a setting dog flushing everything out of range

The flushing dog will usually come right but the false pointing usually gets worse.

The false setting problem is genetic...and can only be cured humanely!

browning fusion

Dawggone wrote: »

The flushing dog will usually come right but the false pointing usually gets worse.

The false setting problem is genetic...and can only be cured humanely!

Enough Birds shot over them usually does the trick

Dawggone

browning fusion wrote: »

Enough Birds shot over them usually does the trick

Exactly.
No cure for those false setting bags of shyte though.

browning fusion

Dawggone wrote: »

Exactly.
No cure for those false setting bags of shyte though.

It's usually the owners fault tho
Most faults are caused by that

Dawggone

browning fusion wrote: »

It's usually the owners fault tho
Most faults are caused by that

Genetic. Breed two false setting shyte and you're guaranteed to have a litter of shyte.
Totally agree that bad handling doesn't help.
However bad handling a 'free' dog will make them 'sticky', not false.

browning fusion

Dawggone wrote: »

Genetic. Breed two false setting shyte and you're guaranteed to have a litter of shyte.
Totally agree that bad handling doesn't help.
However bad handling a 'free' dog will make them 'sticky', not false.

Well if this dog is for the lines I think it is it probably one of the most well bred dogs in the country should no worries

Dawggone

browning fusion wrote: »

Well if this dog is for the lines I think it is it probably one of the most well bred dogs in the country should no worries

G'wan and tell. I'm very interested in the breed!

browning fusion

Dawggone wrote: »

G'wan and tell. I'm very interested in the breed!

I'll bang up after the football

Hunter456

The sight of a wing is to train the dog to set and when the setter goes into the field he might flush a pheasant or two out of range at first and then after alot of outings the dog gets the point of being out and something clicks in their head '' i know this scent i will sneak up on this and eh presto we have a successful point and a flush to follow'' to add the setter in those pictures were not setting a wing it was setting a scent and to be honest i had no clue what it was, today i brought her out to the same place she scented and slightly set a pheasant i would have never have known the bird was even there she was acting funny so i automatically knew a pheasant was around.

Hunter456

browning fusion wrote: »

It looks like a pup of my dog should be a cracker
Was she registered?

no she wasn't registered i will be though.

Dawggone

Hunter456 wrote: »

The sight of a wing is to train the dog to set and when the setter goes into the field he might flush a pheasant or two out of range at first and then after alot of outings the dog gets the point of being out and something clicks in their head '' i know this scent i will sneak up on this and eh presto we have a successful point and a flush to follow.

IMO a pup that sight points a wing (or a piece of paper or whatever) is showing no insight whatsoever as to what kind of dog it will turn out to be...you certainly don't have to train an english setter to set, decades of breeding have done that.

Hunter456

Dawggone wrote: »

IMO a pup that sight points a wing (or a piece of paper or whatever) is showing no insight whatsoever as to what kind of dog it will turn out to be...you certainly don't have to train an english setter to set, decades of breeding have done that.

i get where your coming from, iv only had this dog 3 days i have only done abit with her and her progress in that time frame has amazed me.

Dawggone

Hunter456 wrote: »

i get where your coming from, iv only had this dog 3 days i have only done abit with her and her progress in that time frame has amazed me.

Enjoy. Plenty free running with a sprinkle of game.

Hunter456

Dawggone wrote: »

Enjoy. Plenty free running with a sprinkle of game.

i'll let her be a pup and train her away and the minute a solid set is accomplished happy days.

browning fusion

browning fusion wrote: »

I'll bang up after the football

I'll be staying in the pub longer that I taught but a few of the top my head going back 5 generations on the sire side
storeskars gsnore
Blue maestro
The Queen
capparo something can't remember of the top of my head
A good few lafantas in the breed
Il be actually getting his papers back next Sunday I can give ya the hole lot from sire and dam on both sides there's 2 UK field trial champions 11 or 12 irish champions
His greatgrandfather was a top field trail dog in Norway

Dawggone

browning fusion wrote: »

I'll be staying in the pub longer that I taught but a few of the top my head going back 5 generations on the sire side
storeskars gsnore
Blue maestro
The Queen
capparo something can't remember of the top of my head
A good few lafantas in the breed
Il be actually getting his papers back next Sunday I can give ya the hole lot from sire and dam on both sides there's 2 UK field trial champions 11 or 12 irish champions
His greatgrandfather was a top field trail dog in Norway

Thanks. I'd be very au fait with those lines. Please post when you can.

browning fusion

Dawggone wrote: »

Thanks. I'd be very au fait with those lines. Please post when you can.

Will do
capparo tork was the one I couldn't think of
Goldshield breeze
New edition
Tyrone banner
I'll have the hole lot next Sunday but the breeding is savage if she the same litter that is ðŸ˜႒

Tommyaya4

Dawggone wrote: »

IMO a pup that sight points a wing (or a piece of paper or whatever) is showing no insight whatsoever as to what kind of dog it will turn out to be...you certainly don't have to train an english setter to set, decades of breeding have done that.

Well said lad any one thinks they are
teaching a setter of any breed to set is fooling themselves. It either clicks with them and comes natural

browning fusion

Tommyaya4 wrote: »

Well said lad any one thinks they are
teaching a setter of any breed to set is fooling themselves. It either clicks with them and comes natural

It more to encourage the setting instinct rather that teaching a dog to set
opinions vary on it but can't see it doing any harm either way
it won't make a good dog bad or a bad dog good but it's a good sign to get the dog setting at a young age
after that it's either in the dog or it ant to make a good gundog

springer man

I have an older brother to this pup from a previous litter. PM me and we can give them a run together

ecr

Anyone interested in setter pups serious bloodlines probably the best in the country