South Park to take on Caitlyn Jenner

South Park is back for its 19th season and it’s set to be as rude, controversial and brilliant as ever.

Matt Stone and Trey Parker haven’t made an episode since December 2014, which to the politically correct brigade is probably good news but the lads are back and will apparently be tackling the biggest celeb news story in recent history in the very first episode… Caitlyn Jenner.

The animated series has tackled big issues before and nailed it in their delivery. But something tells us the backlash from this episode is going to be massive. And we’re sure they’ll deflect criticism in a typically South Park way.

Entertainment Weekly reported:

There is a new principal at the helm of South Park Elementary. He forces the boys to confront the damage they’ve done through their history of racism and unconscious bias. It is the most stunning and brave South Park ever”…which seems to be a reference to Kris Jenner’s quote about Caitlyn accepting the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the July ESPYS Awards. Jenner called Caitlyn’s speech “amazing and very brave.

For the record, I love South Park. They're brash and controversial but they can make very intelligent TV. They don't discriminate against any one group, everyone is a target. Judaism has got an awful time from the show yet Matt and Trey themselves are Jewish. Christians, Muslims,Scientologists and Mormons have all been hammered too. They really give two fingers up to the perpetually offended and I for one can't wait to check this new season out, starting tonight. What are your own thoughts on the show and the type of humour it sends out.

keano_afc

Really looking forward to this episode anyway.

Tombi!

All I'll can be sure of is that the majority of people up in arms about it, regardless of how it's done, won't be fans of the show.
South Park is pretty much based around being offensive. The very first episode had a giant alien device come out of an 8 year old boy's ass, had another 8 year old boy throw up violently into the face of an 8 year old girl who tried to kiss him
But as per usual people will ignore the show's history, the context etc, just to have a moan.

On the other hand it might not be a complete piss take but it's South Park so :pac:

Rubberchikken

havn't seen every episopde of south park, but love the ones i have seen.
they're irrevant and indiscriminating in who they poke fun at and rightly so.

and anyone who can't see it for what it is is just plain sad.

martyos121

Looking forward to this episode, but I doubt they can do anything to top the "Cock Magic" episode last season.

A true masterpiece of comedy.

jamesbere

Anyone who takes south Park seriously is a moron. If you don't like it's brand of humour don't watch it.

But unfortunately this won't happen.

Penn

Tombi! wrote: »

All I'll can be sure of is that the majority of people up in arms about it, regardless of how it's done, won't be fans of the show.
South Park is pretty much based around being offensive. The very first episode had a giant alien device come out of an 8 year old boy's ass, had another 8 year old boy throw up violently into the face of an 8 year old girl who tried to kiss him
But as per usual people will ignore the show's history, the context etc, just to have a moan.

On the other hand it might not be a complete piss take but it's South Park so :pac:

That's the thing, as offensive as South Park usually is, it can also provide a brilliant satirical take on events/organisations/people that should never be dismissed just because of the type of show it is, or because they choose the offensive/crude way of making a salient point.

I agree that the first episodes were pretty much trash but that was way back in 1998. It's one of the few shows that got better with time as opposed to having a decline in quality. Their take on the Occupy movement was pretty good and they deal with real stuff like immigration too, even if they out their own whacky spin on it. It still has silly and stupid moments but for the most part they're clever shows. They offend everyone equally too I've found. Whites, blacks, bigots, religious groups, rich people, poor people. Everyone. I just wonder will there be crusaders trying to shut them down after this one?

It's very badly drawn...

NachoBusiness

I don't know which I find more perplexing.

The public's obsession with Caitlyn Jenner or the public's obsession with his step daughter's arse.

GLaDOS

NachoBusiness wrote: »

I don't know which I find more perplexing.

The public's obsession with Caitlyn Jenner or the public's obsession with his step daughter's arse.

I suspect South Park will be taking the piss out of these type of people as much as Jenner herself.

smoking_kills

NachoBusiness wrote: »

I don't know which I find more perplexing.

The public's obsession with Caitlyn Jenner or the public's obsession with his step daughter's arse.

Leave kanye out of this...

Whitewinged

I dont find south park offensive though. I think it points out how people can be offensive and oblivious to it and hypocritical.

When cartmen makes digs at kyle for being jewish, your not laughing at jews, your laughing at cartmens obsurd ignorance. You love him though too because he's so stupid, smart and manipulitive but you still know his views are wrong. Thats why its not offensive.

Or a charachter like tokenblack, your laughing at the fact that the show is pointing out the ignorance of other shows who clearly do cast in this way.

thats why i think most of the humour in south park works.

justchecked

think those episodes might be online already ... they did one where cartman does the whole transgender thing so he can have his own luxury private toilet.

It wasnt that funny or smart. Passable.

Boom_Bap

South Park is genius. I used to love jamming on an episode and turning my brain off.
A particular favorite of mine is Vote Or Die. A massive campaign in the US to get young people to vote, but SP took the literal meaning of the catchphrase and used it perfectly.

If someone watches South Park and gets offended by it, do they sit through just the first 5 minutes or watch a full episode?

kupus

Hands down the best TV show ever. Everybody is lampooned. And to an equal opportunity racist ( black white yellow brown, purple indigo ) like myself it's heaven

BunkMoreland

NachoBusiness wrote: »

I don't know which I find more perplexing.

The public's obsession with Caitlyn Jenner or the public's obsession with his step daughter's arse.

"His"? How dare you, that is so offensive you big racist bigot misogynistic horrible piece of scum. I'm so offended, more than ever in my life, I can't handle the level of offence.

"it" was the word you were looking for.

Salvation Tambourine

Boom_Bap wrote: »

If someone watches South Park and gets offended by it, do they sit through just the first 5 minutes or watch a full episode?

My girlfriend was one of those people who didn't find it funny and just found it stupid because she'd watch about 4 minutes of an episode I'd been watching.

Since she's sat down and watched the episodes with me in full, with full context she's a convert, loves the show. Finds Butters the most unlucky and also adorable character ever. It's always a proud moment when she ends a story with "like that episode in South Park".

Looking forward to it coming back. I thought last season was excellent. I wonder if they'll continue with the continuity.

Randy: "You spent $11,000 dollars on a mobile game, do you know how many songs I'll have to write to pay that back"
Stan: "One..."

hidinginthebush

South Park has the balls to once again lampoon whatever is popular on the E! channel. So brave :rolleyes:

FWIW I like South Park, but have gotten sick of every new episode being them taking off what ever that month's hot topic is.

The Randy Riverbeast

It's South Park, they will take the piss out of anything. Anyone who gets offended isn't the audience for South Park. They have already done transgender and transracial in an episode before. Mr garrison becomes Mrs garrison! Kyle becomes black and randy becomes a dolphin.

marcbrophy

Nokotan wrote: »

I wonder if they'll continue with the continuity.

I too am curious if they'll do something similar this season.
It was refreshing last year to see it

Am I the only one wondering if Jenner will be Randy Marsh in a wig again?

Summer wind

Love it. Huge respect. Remember Mr Garrisons sex change "Have you seen my penis":D

South Park is to TV what Charlie Hebdo is to print. They can be seen as being offensive, but there's biting satire there.

Old Jakey

Family Guy has been pretty offensive to transsexuals, surprised that was allowed.

I was always a little surprised that the Inbetweeners was so popular given all the gay jokes, didn't think it would allowed in today's ultra-pc world.

efb

smoking_kills wrote: »

Leave kanye out of this...

Imma just say this... beyonce deserved rear of the year, not Taylor Swift.

efb

Old Jakey wrote: »

Family Guy has been pretty offensive to transsexuals, surprised that was allowed.

I was always a little surprised that the Inbetweeners was so popular given all the gay jokes, didn't think it would allowed in today's ultra-pc world.

As a gay man- why I didn't find inbetweeners or South Park's gay jokes offensive, as:-

1. It was never thinly veiled attacks on gay people
2. The attacks were across the board not just directed at gay people (or transexual- who aren't identified as gay)
3. It was juvenile humour with a satire of society behind it.

bucketybuck

hidinginthebush wrote: »

FWIW I like South Park, but have gotten sick of every new episode being them taking off what ever that month's hot topic is.

Thats what being topical means, yes.

Nodin

Deleted User wrote: »

It's very badly drawn...

They know.

Old Jakey

efb wrote: »

As a gay man- why I didn't find inbetweeners or South Park's gay jokes offensive, as:-

1. It was never thinly veiled attacks on gay people
2. The attacks were across the board not just directed at gay people (or transexual- who aren't identified as gay)
3. It was juvenile humour with a satire of society behind it.

That's cool but I am surprised the ultra right on crowd didn't kick up a fuss (and no blaming gays btw, it usually the straight 'allies' who think they have to protect gay people).

Nodin

NachoBusiness wrote: »

I don't know which I find more perplexing.

The public's obsession with Caitlyn Jenner or the public's obsession with his step daughter's arse.

There are three schools of Arse Obsession - those who find it attractive, those who are amazed and appalled at its size, and those who are amazed and appalled at those who find it attractive.

Beefy78

Omackeral wrote: »

Judaism has got an awful time from the show yet Matt and Trey themselves are Jewish.

I'm pretty sure only one of them (Matt Stone who Kyle was originally based on) is Jewish. Trey Parker was raised as a Catholic, as is Stan Marsh in the show.

When is the new show on over here? Is it this weekend or the one after?

Hande hoche!

Beefy78 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure only one of them (Matt Stone who Kyle was originally based on) is Jewish. Trey Parker was raised as a Catholic, as is Stan Marsh in the show.

When is the new show on over here? Is it this weekend or the one after?

This Friday apparently.

The Randy Riverbeast

Old Jakey wrote: »

Family Guy has been pretty offensive to transsexuals, surprised that was allowed.

I was always a little surprised that the Inbetweeners was so popular given all the gay jokes, didn't think it would allowed in today's ultra-pc world.

The world must not be as PC as you thought.

valoren

Two neighbours lived next door to each other.
One was a young man and the other was an old lady.
The young man was fond of sunbathing in the nude on warm sunny days.

One day the old lady rang the police to report him because of his latest bout of nudey balming out. The police came to her house and asked what the problem was.
She explained that her neighbour was sunbathing nude and wanted him to stop.

The Police went out to her backyard but said "We can't see anything?"
Quick as a flash, the old lady responds, "Stand up on the ledge there so you can see over the fence!"


The people likely to be offended will watch this (or more likely, not watch the show). They know the show has a reputation of courting controversy and will bleed their hearts out over it's perceived offences irregardless.

A Primal Nut

Omackeral wrote: »

Judaism has got an awful time from the show yet Matt and Trey themselves are Jewish. Christians, Muslims,Scientologists and Mormons have all been hammered too.

I've heard this a lot but in reality Judaism is not made to look bad in the way other religions are. Kyle, the main jewish character is portrayed as the good guy while the anti-Semitic Cartman is portrayed as the bad guy.

On the other hand through their portrayal of Jesus they make Christianity look rediculous and the same goes for the way they portray muslims.

I don't really care that much.....just saying

Dick phelan

For me it's the funniest show on tv.

Agent Smith

Boom_Bap wrote: »

South Park is genius. I used to love jamming on an episode and turning my brain off.
A particular favorite of mine is Vote Or Die. A massive campaign in the US to get young people to vote, but SP took the literal meaning of the catchphrase and used it perfectly.

If someone watches South Park and gets offended by it, do they sit through just the first 5 minutes or watch a full episode?

"I like it when you vote bitch....."

booooring!

Deleted User wrote: »

It's very badly drawn...

Yes it's done on purpose if you didn't know!

booooring!

I've got a golden ticket..........

CatFromHue

Boom_Bap wrote: »

South Park is genius. I used to love jamming on an episode and turning my brain off.
A particular favorite of mine is Vote Or Die. A massive campaign in the US to get young people to vote, but SP took the literal meaning of the catchphrase and used it perfectly.

If someone watches South Park and gets offended by it, do they sit through just the first 5 minutes or watch a full episode?

That really was a great episode.

All the PETA guys trying to protect the animals when P.Diddy comes looking for Stan

Beefy78

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I've heard this a lot but in reality Judaism is not made to look bad in the way other religions are. Kyle, the main jewish character is portrayed as the good guy while the anti-Semitic Cartman is portrayed as the bad guy.

On the other hand through their portrayal of Jesus they make Christianity look rediculous and the same goes for the way they portray muslims.

I don't really care that much.....just saying

I don't think that is true. Jesus is one of the most 'straight' characters they've ever had on the show. Christianity has certainly had its fair share of digs in its direction but no worse than the other religions. There's plenty of Catholic 'good guys' such as Stan & Butters.

It is the Mormons that they don't like!

Wompa1

Trey Parker is not Jewish. Only Matt Stone is

The_Valeyard

Now , now Skeeter ,he ain't doing no harm.

booooring!

Can we turn this into the Lisa needs braces kind of south park thread posting our favourite quotes and clips pretty please moderators!

Beefy78

booooring! wrote: »

Can we turn this into the Lisa needs braces kind of south park thread posting our favourite quotes and clips pretty please moderators!

No! You go to hell! You go to hell and you die!

OneOfThem

Beefy78 wrote: »

I don't think that is true. Jesus is one of the most 'straight' characters they've ever had on the show. Christianity has certainly had its fair share of digs in its direction but no worse than the other religions. There's plenty of Catholic 'good guys' such as Stan & Butters.

It is the Mormons that they don't like!

And even the Mormon episode ends with the Mormon kid saying

"Look, maybe us Mormons do believe in crazy stories that make absolutely no sense, and maybe Joseph Smith did make it all up, but I have a great life. and a great family, and I have the Book of Mormon to thank for that. The truth is, I don't care if Joseph Smith made it all up, because what the church teaches now is loving your family, being nice and helping people. And even though people in this town might think that's stupid, I still choose to believe in it. All I ever did was try to be your friend, Stan, but you're so high and mighty you couldn't look past my religion and just be my friend back. You've got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls. "

They absolutely tear anyone and anything tho shreds for a laugh. But they're never cruel about it if you're actually paying attention, and it's always fair and balanced in it's own twisted surreal way. One of the cleverest things about the show is that you can't watch it for long with bigoted or mean spirited views without suddenly having it flip on you and realising you're the butt of the joke.

Liam McPoyle

Fantastic, not cos of Jenner, I don't give two shiny shytes about her, but fantastic because it will likely mean more Kanye piss ripping.

"Bitch you sho you not the hobbit"

A Primal Nut

I can see the ending to this episode being something along the lines of:

Caitlyn Jennar is making a speech
Something bad happens
Someone very bravely saves the day
Everyone keeps talking how brave and courageous Caitlyn is while nobody says anything about the person who saves all their lives.

Gbear

Wompa1 wrote: »

Trey Parker is not Jewish. Only Matt Stone is

And AFAIK he's an atheist one.

booooring!

Beefy78 wrote: »

No! You go to hell! You go to hell and you die!

Now lets try to get an answer from someone who's not a complete retard!

Gbear

OneOfThem wrote: »

And even the Mormon episode ends with the Mormon kid saying

"Look, maybe us Mormons do believe in crazy stories that make absolutely no sense, and maybe Joseph Smith did make it all up, but I have a great life. and a great family, and I have the Book of Mormon to thank for that. The truth is, I don't care if Joseph Smith made it all up, because what the church teaches now is loving your family, being nice and helping people. And even though people in this town might think that's stupid, I still choose to believe in it. All I ever did was try to be your friend, Stan, but you're so high and mighty you couldn't look past my religion and just be my friend back. You've got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls. "

They absolutely tear anyone and anything tho shreds for a laugh. But they're never cruel about it if you're actually paying attention, and it's always fair and balanced in it's own twisted surreal way. One of the cleverest things about the show is that you can't watch it for long with bigoted or mean spirited views without suddenly having it flip on you and realising you're the butt of the joke.

There's a certain class of serially offended person who'd take the Britney Spears episode where she's blows her head off, or the Crack Baby Basketball episode, as attacks against those people.

Some people can't understand how a bad thing can happen to a character in a show or other piece of media but the person creating the media doesn't endorse that action and is instead using it to say something completely different - the inhuman treatment of celebrities to the point where they have huge mental health problems in the case of "Britney's New Look", or the exploitation of college sportsmen in the US by the NCAA in "Crack Baby Basketball".

It was the same with that Charlie Hebdo thing yesterday.

It bespeaks either a large degree of petty-mindedness or else just intellectual laziness born of not liking the art/media/tv show in question that causes you to assume the worst of it.