Crane crashes in Mecca's Grand Mosque

Magnate

At least 65 dead and 154 inured

http://www.rt.com/news/315082-crane-collapses-mecca-mosque/

Shocking stuff, a terrible tragedy.

Streetwalker

Oh man that's awful stuff. From the looks of the pictures the death toll may well rise.

darkpagandeath

RT hmmmm..

Menas

Seeing it on the news now....poor people, going on pilgrimage and this happens to them.
There will be plenty of families waiting for news of their relations for the next few hours.

darkpagandeath

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34226003

Alexis Sanchez

Allah must be displeased if he allowed this to happen.

Mesrine65

Alexis Sanchez wrote: »

Allah must be displeased if he allowed this to happen.

Not cool man, people have lost their lives performing a pious pilgrimage based on their belief system.

You do yourself a disservice mocking a tragic act such as this, regardless of your opinions on Islam.

Boom_Bap

Alexis Sanchez wrote: »

Allah must be displeased if he allowed this to happen.

MOD
There will be no talk like this on this thread. Show some respect.

thelad95

Alexis Sanchez wrote: »

Allah must be displeased if he allowed this to happen.

Shut up just shut the frig up. Absolutely disgraceful joke to make considering the death toll. Pathetic

knird evol

Alexis Sanchez wrote: »

Allah must be displeased if he allowed this to happen.

Allah is running the entire universe. He can't be micro managing every work place accident and construction site health and safety. Some sh1t is delegated Alexis.

Hitchens

on the anniversary of 9/11, that's some coincidence

asherbassad

Hitchens wrote: »

on the anniversary of 9/11, that's some coincidence

How is an accident at a mosque on the same date as planes crashing into buildings in America a coincidence?

Niemoj

Regardless of what you think of the Muslim religion this is an absolute tragedy. RIP to those lost.

arayess

asherbassad wrote: »

How is an accident at a mosque on the same date as planes crashing into buildings in America a coincidence?

because most of the 19 were saudis
Bin Laden was saudi
A huge amount of Islamic charity money that went to Al Qaeda was saudi cash.
Muslims....here , muslims there and muslims on 9/11...muslims.

what more do you want?

Boom_Bap

arayess wrote: »

because most of the 19 were saudis
Bin Laden was saudi
A huge amount of Islamic charity money that went to Al Qaeda was saudi cash.
Muslims....here , muslims there and muslims on 9/11...muslims.

what more do you want?

MOD
We have a conspiracy theories forum where conspiracies go to conspire. And if you choose to post there, please read the forum charter.
After Hours is not a place for conspiracies.

moc moc a moc

asherbassad wrote: »

How is an accident at a mosque on the same date as planes crashing into buildings in America a coincidence?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony

Cold War Kid

Not necessarily conspiracy theorist simply to comment that it's a coincidence - it is.

darkpagandeath wrote: »

RT hmmmm..

Not sure what could be ambiguous about reporting on a thing that actually happened.

Guy:Incognito

knird evol wrote: »

Allah is running the entire universe. He can't be micro managing every work place accident and construction site health and safety. Some sh1t is delegated Alexis.

Well plenty of people seem to think the various gods will take time out to help them in there own personal situations (need to win boxing/football matches etc) so keeping an eye on a crane hovering over a large group of your followers there for no other reason that to say how great you are in a place built specifically for the purpose shouldnt be a lot to ask for.

It'd almost make you question your faith......

Guy:Incognito

arayess wrote: »

because most of the 19 were saudis
Bin Laden was saudi
A huge amount of Islamic charity money that went to Al Qaeda was saudi cash.
Muslims....here , muslims there and muslims on 9/11...muslims.

what more do you want?

If nothing was happening to any muslims on any other days of the year then maybe.

Niemoj

Some of the replies on this thread already are shocking.

Human life has been lost in a tragedy, what difference does their religious affiliation make?

knird evol

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Well plenty of people seem to think the various gods will take time out to help them in there own personal situations (need to win boxing/football matches etc) so keeping an eye on a crane hovering over a large group of your followers there for no other reason that to say how great you are in a place built specifically for the purpose shouldnt be a lot to ask for.

It'd almost make you question your faith......

Not everyone has the same values as you.
A devout muslim might place a lower priority on boxing/football matches, long life and material considerations than what you yourself might.

moc moc a moc

Niemoj wrote: »

Human life has been lost in a tragedy, what difference does their religious affiliation make?

Would you be crying at the thought of ISIS lives being lost?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

moc moc a moc wrote: »

Would you be crying at the thought of ISIS lives being lost?

Cheap shot and no comparison. That's like branding all Catholics for IRA murders. This was a tragic accident.

Guy:Incognito

Niemoj wrote: »

Some of the replies on this thread already are shocking.

Human life has been lost in a tragedy, what difference does their religious affiliation make?

Personally speaking its any religious affiliation , not specifically muslim. If all these gods are so great, why do they let their most devout followers die in all the various goings on around the world? Surely they should be taking out us non believers ? Which takes me back to the possibility they dont exist.......

K4t

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Not necessarily conspiracy theorist simply to comment that it's a coincidence - it is.

Boards.ie moderators - specialists in shutting down conversation before it has even occurred in their faux attempt to feign sympathy and political correctness.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Personally speaking its any religious affiliation , not specifically muslim. If all these gods are so great, why do they let their most devout followers die in all the various goings on around the world? Surely they should be taking out us non believers ? Which takes me back to the possibility they dont exist.......

And so, this is not a tragic loss of life due to an accident? They had a faith, any faith, so tough? Is that it?

MakkaaPakkaa

Why were they using a crane when they had perfectly good flying carpets?

Mod: Banned

Barely There

Niemoj wrote: »

Some of the replies on this thread already are shocking.

Meh - I suspect some people just read threads like this looking for stuff to get offended by.

jaykay74

MakkaaPakkaa wrote: »

Why were they using a crane when they had perfectly good flying carpets?

Did you ever say something in your head and think "yeah thats clever" and then when you say it out loud everyone things you're a bit thick?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Barely There wrote: »

Meh - I suspect some people just read threads like this looking for stuff to get offended by.

More a matter of people looking for stuff to belittle and demean.

shugy

Magnate wrote: »

At least 65 dead and 154 inured

Shocking stuff, a terrible tragedy.

Pics not working for me

Guy:Incognito

Nathaniel Unimportant Signpost wrote: »

And so, this is not a tragic loss of life due to an accident? They had a faith, any faith, so tough? Is that it?

Yes, thats clearly what I said. It's right there in the words sure.

That or my posts were about questioning the reasons for people faith and their unwavering support of it. If you believe your god cares about you personally enough to pray directly to him and ask him for help with things and he then allows people of similar levels of faith to not only die but die during the very act of showing him how much you care for him (this applies to any religion, ie the people killed in the church in america) , do you not think thats a reasonable sign of how futile the whole religion thing is and that you're better off spening your time looking after yourself that hoping a spirit in the sky will do it?

Stheno

87 dead now awful tragedy

KERSPLAT!

Mod

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We've already had 2 warnings so if people can't take them on board, keep it civil and on topic we'll just go straight to bans

Mena

Tragic :-(

What are those monster cranes for in this instance?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Yes, thats clearly what I said. It's right there in the words sure.

That or my posts were about questioning the reasons for people faith and their unwavering support of it. If you believe your god cares about you personally enough to pray directly to him and ask him for help with things and he then allows people of similar levels of faith to not only die but die during the very act of showing him how much you care for him (this applies to any religion, ie the people killed in the church in america) , do you not think thats a reasonable sign of how futile the whole religion thing is and that you're better off spening your time looking after yourself that hoping a spirit in the sky will do it?

But, this is nothing to do with religion. Is the death of 87 people not tragic regardless of whether they were religious or not?

moc moc a moc

Nathaniel Unimportant Signpost wrote: »

Cheap shot and no comparison. That's like branding all Catholics for IRA murders. This was a tragic accident.

IRA murders were not perpetrated in the name of Catholicism.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

moc moc a moc wrote: »

IRA murders were not perpetrated in the name of Catholicism.

Fair enough. Point taken but you still can't equate every Muslim with ISIS either.

Overheal

Mena: according to the article it was upgrades to the mosque to accommodate more tourism

moc moc a moc

Nathaniel Unimportant Signpost wrote: »

you still can't equate every Muslim with ISIS either.

Good thing I didn't do that then, isn't it?

Quoted post: "Human life has been lost in a tragedy, what difference does their religious affiliation make?"

My response: "Would you be crying at the thought of ISIS lives being lost?"

ISIS lives lost = human (muslim) lives lost. Who gives a bollix? Nobody.

Yes, it's a bit off-topic, but that's pretty much the whole point of After Hours. You want serious discussion of current events? We have Politics and Humanities forums for that.

RDM_83 again

Overheal wrote: »

Mena: according to the article it was upgrades to the mosque to accommodate more tourism

Is tourism really the right word, like AFAIK if your devout and have the means your meant to take the Hajj at least once in your life (something that historically helped bind the muslim world together back when us Europeans were squabbling with the next Baron over).
Anyway RIP

RobertKK

Overheal wrote: »

Mena: according to the article it was upgrades to the mosque to accommodate more tourism

Who can only be Muslim, given non Muslims are banned from entering Mecca.

If it wasn't so serious and not in Saudi Arabia, one would have the image of Miley Cyrus on her wrecking ball, given the damage done to the mosque.

The_Valeyard

Horrible random event.


RIP to all the victims.

Overheal

moc moc a moc wrote: »

Good thing I didn't do that then, isn't it?



Quoted post: "Human life has been lost in a tragedy, what difference does their religious affiliation make?"



My response: "Would you be crying at the thought of ISIS lives being lost?"



ISIS lives lost = human (muslim) lives lost. Who gives a bollix? Nobody.



Yes, it's a bit off-topic, but that's pretty much the whole point of After Hours. You want serious discussion of current events? We have Politics and Humanities forums for that.

Bit off topic - it's actually just a strawman argument.

Overheal

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Is tourism really the right word, like AFAIK if your devout and have the means your meant to take the Hajj at least once in your life (something that historically helped bind the muslim world together back when us Europeans were squabbling with the next Baron over).

Anyway RIP

RobertKK wrote: »

Who can only be Muslim, given non Muslims are banned from entering Mecca.



If it wasn't so serious and not in Saudi Arabia, one would have the image of Miley Cyrus on her wrecking ball, given the damage done to the mosque.

Should have said traffic.

Royal Irish

Fact is 9/11 was perpetrated by Islamic extremists and on the anniversary of 9/11 a crane falls not only in the home country of 15 of the 19 hijackers, but in the home of the most extreme form of Islam, Wahhabism and at Islams most holy site. So much irony.

Overheal

Royal Irish wrote: »

Fact is 9/11 was perpetrated by Islamic extremists and on the anniversary of 9/11 a crane falls not only in the home country of 15 of the 19 hijackers, but in the home of the most extreme form of Islam, Wahhabism and at Islams most holy site. So much irony.

<--- Conspiracy Theory forum link here.

inocybe

Articles don't state, but I'm guessing a lot were 'guest' workers.

Sheep Lover

Overheal wrote: »

<--- Conspiracy Theory forum link here.

Wheres the conspiracy? He said irony?

Royal Irish

Overheal wrote: »

<--- Conspiracy Theory forum link here.

Where is the conspiracy theory in my post?

Overheal

inocybe wrote: »

Articles don't state, but I'm guessing a lot were 'guest' workers.

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Muslims can't be contractors?