Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II **off topic discussion**

ford2600

Chuchote wrote: »

Fabulous piece about a solo cycling holiday in France http:// cyclingtips.com/2016/07/getting-lost-in-france-cycling-abroad-alone/

Nice article, I get the feeling she is no ordinary cyclist/athlete

"Monika is a German ultra-endurance racer based in Melbourne and one of our Ella ambassadors. She is a gravel grinder, exercise physiologist and mental toughness coach that loves cycling challenges which push her beyond her perceived physical limits. You can find more of her writing"

Chuchote

ford2600 wrote: »

Nice article, I get the feeling she is no ordinary cyclist/athlete

"Monika is a German ultra-endurance racer based in Melbourne and one of our Ella ambassadors. She is a gravel grinder, exercise physiologist and mental toughness coach that loves cycling challenges which push her beyond her perceived physical limits. You can find more of her writing"

Heh!

But it's true — I cycled around France — or a little bit of it — years ago with a teenager and it was lovely; we used campsites, met some very nice people, and had the same experience of drivers moving to the opposite lane to pass (and passengers leaning out of the windows laughing and shouting "Allez! Allez! Allez!" pretending we were Tour de France athletes as we pedalled along piled high with tents and bulging panniers).

cunavalos

Whats the opinion of Nico's new jersey

I think they are limited in what they can do and it fits the Sky national jersey template.

Thud

cunavalos wrote: »

Whats the opinion of Nico's new jersey

I think they are limited in what they can do and it fits the Sky national jersey template.

Same as the British version bar the band around the middle, think it will look ok, will be good to see it out in Poland:

Miklos

I'm sure it looks better in the flesh than on a design file, looking forward to seeing it at the head of the race in Poland!

RobertFoster

cunavalos wrote: »

Whats the opinion of Nico's new jersey

I think the way the side panels match the front makes the shamrock rectangle look like a clip art paste job. Maybe the real thing will look better...

magicbastarder

is that shamrock design used anywhere else?

dastardly00

That British National Champions jersey looks pretty classy imo...

CramCycle

RobertFoster wrote: »

I think the way the side panels match the front makes the shamrock rectangle look like a clip art paste job. Maybe the real thing will look better...

Thought that too, the side panelling breaks it up to much. Far better if it was a wrap.

magicbastarder wrote: »

is that shamrock design used anywhere else?

I don't know but I would have thought either the tristripe like the british one or even a wrap around flag Green on the right, gold on the left and a square of white in the middle (front and back) that would blend in to the top and bottom would be nice

dastardly00 wrote: »

That British National Champions jersey looks pretty classy imo...

It does, could be a number of countries though

cunavalos

CramCycle wrote: »

Thought that too, the side panelling breaks it up to much. Far better if it was a wrap.

I don't know but I would have thought either the tristripe like the british one or even a wrap around flag Green on the right, gold on the left and a square of white in the middle (front and back) that would blend in to the top and bottom would be nice


It does, could be a number of countries though

I think the tristripe isnt allowed by CI, white with a green band or green with with a white band are the templates

IIRC Aidan crowley from velorevolution had to change his from the tristripe to the green band (with shamrock)
This was the original design

To this

Judging from SKy other national jersey from this year the band will not go around as they don't want to interfere with the sponsors logo size

CramCycle

cunavalos wrote: »

I think the tristripe isnt allowed by CI, white with a green band or green with with a white band are the templates

IIRC Aidan crowley from velorevolution had to change his from the tristripe to the green band (with shamrock)

Pity, I think thats nice

To this

Bit to many shamrocks for me, it's like they are trying to steal the audax jersey and failing.

Judging from SKy other national jersey from this year the band will not go around as they don't want to interfere with the sponsors logo size

Also a pity as it looks better going around IMO

Pigeon Reaper

An unmarked garda car tried to do me for speeding on St Johns road. They pulled me in at Heuston station and told me I had been going too fast before the junction with the south circular. The road is 60kmph at that point and I was doing about 35/40kmph while being overtaken by a stream of cars. The garda then muttered something about attending a fatality there a number of years ago and went away. I do hope he's not suffering some kind of PTSD as he seemed genuine if misguided.

Chuchote

I was just thinking, looking at the Portuguese yesterday, how their scarlet strip must have been a big help in instantly seeing your teammates when kicking the ball to them (if you could see them between the moths). Maybe wearing grass-green is a big disadvantage to Ireland.

LollipopJimmy

Pigeon Reaper wrote: »

An unmarked garda car tried to do me for speeding on St Johns road. They pulled me in at Heuston station and told me I had been going too fast before the junction with the south circular. The road is 60kmph at that point and I was doing about 35/40kmph while being overtaken by a stream of cars. The garda then muttered something about attending a fatality there a number of years ago and went away. I do hope he's not suffering some kind of PTSD as he seemed genuine if misguided.

I'm so close to the KOM on that stretch I can taste it. Nothing like a cop car coming behind to make you go faster!

CramCycle

My, my, here come the fuzz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM3sl2oaLxo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNIMuvbiZcc

Harrybelafonte

CramCycle wrote: »

Pity, I think thats nice
Bit to many shamrocks for me, it's like they are trying to steal the audax jersey and failing.

Also a pity as it looks better going around IMO

National champs kit always has shamrocks on it, whether by standard Spin11 supplies or other.

CramCycle

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

National champs kit always has shamrocks on it, whether by standard Spin11 supplies or other.

I don't mind the shamrock, I just thought the number was excessive, one on the green strip, no need for the extras below the strip. Just an opinion though. I am sure there are others who think it should be nothing but shamrocks.

Lusk_Doyle

CramCycle wrote: »

I am sure there are others who think it should be nothing but shamrocks.

A leprechaun eating a bowl of lucky charms would be nice!

CramCycle

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

A leprechaun eating a bowl of lucky charms would be nice!

Put a Toucan sitting on top of the shamrock and get Diageo to sponsor events going forward.

Thud

First glimpse of the jersey in action

http://www.gettyimages.ie/event/rd-tour-de-pologne---stage-653235877#cycling-73rd-tour-of-poland-2016-stage-1-gatis-smukulis-radzymin-de-picture-id546507512

dastardly00

https://twitter.com/nicholasroche/status/752806545361076224

Chuchote

What about a leprechaun sitting by a pot of gold while playing a harp with strings made of rainbows, with a púca peeking cutely over a wall and munching shamrock?

rollingscone

Chuchote wrote: »

What about a leprechaun sitting by a pot of gold while playing a harp with strings made of rainbows, with a púca peeking cutely over a wall and munching shamrock?

Shouldn't that Púca be glaring murderously?

Chuchote

rollingscone wrote: »

Shouldn't that Púca be glaring murderously?

Tricksters, innit?

rollingscone

Chuchote wrote: »

Tricksters, innit?

Púca-mon: Gotta lure 'em all*


















*to their deaths but...

Chuchote

The Department is trying to force cyclists back into the awful cycle lanes:

http://irishcycle.com/2016/07/12/mandatory-cycle-track-law-not-revoked-in-2012-says-department/

Minister Varadkar said: “This is an easy one. The deputy asks if there are plans to remove the mandatory use requirement for cycle lanes. The removal of the requirement to use cycle lanes where provided is one of the undertakings in the national cycle policy framework.”

The minister added: “Where a cycle lane is provided, cyclists are required to use it, even if it is damaged or in a bad condition or inappropriate to use it. The government agrees that the regulation should be changed and it will be."
(snip)
Yesterday, however, the department said that the explanatory note was “incorrect”. They did not reply to a request asking them to explain the difference between their current stance and both their 2012 statement and the ministerial and governmental intent expressed by Varadkar.

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Chuchote wrote: »

The Department is trying to force cyclists back into the awful cycle lanes:

http://irishcycle.com/2016/07/12/mandatory-cycle-track-law-not-revoked-in-2012-says-department/

Oh for fcuks sake :mad::mad::mad::mad: how did that even come up as an option?

At the end of the quote do they not backtrack on it though?

CramCycle

nee wrote: »

Oh for fcuks sake :mad::mad::mad::mad: how did that even come up as an option?

At the end of the quote do they not backtrack on it though?

My reading of the departments interpretation is that any off road cycle path is not mandatory. Which to me are generally the poorly maintained and dangerous ones. The on road ones, if found outside of them can be argued, as if driving a motor vehicle, that you were avoiding dangerous road conditions or obstructions, much like crossing the center line to avoid potholes, debris, inappropriately parked vehicles etc.

tomasrojo

I'm baffled by this return from the grave of the mandatory rule.

The bit here
http://irishcycle.com/2016/07/12/mandatory-cycle-track-law-not-revoked-in-2012-says-department/

The relevant section of the 2012 regulations is as follows:

(4) A pedal cycle shall be driven on a cycle track where—
(a) a cycle track is provided on a road, a portion of a road, or an area at the entrance to which traffic sign number RUS 021 (pedestrianised street or area) is provided, or
(b) a cycle track is a contra-flow cycle track where traffic sign number RUS 059 is provided and pedal cycles shall only be driven in a contra-flow direction on such track.”

The spokesman then said: “To set it out as clearly as possible, paragraph 4(a) should be read as ‘A pedal cycle shall be driven on a cycle track where a cycle track is provided on a road. A pedal cycle shall be driven on a cycle track where a cycle track is provided on a portion of a road. A pedal cycle shall be driven on a cycle track where a cycle track is provided on an area at the entrance to which traffic sign number RUS 021 (pedestrianised street or area) is provided’. It is not to be read as ‘A pedal cycle shall be driven on a cycle track where traffic sign number RUS 021 (pedestrianised street or area) is provided’.”

That's just wilful misinterpretation of what's written, even without the clarifying note that makes the intention of the then minister crystal clear: cycle tracks are only mandatory in bus contraflows and pedestrian zones.

The division of the article into (a) and (b) is clearly to delineate the two scenarios: pedestrian zone and contraflow. If the DoT's new interpretation was correct, there would be no need to have an (a) and (b). It would be (a) road, part of road, etc. (b) pedestrian zone (c) contraflow.

Chuchote

Lamas

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/7/8/12131638/tour-de-france-llamas