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Automatic or manual!?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 643 ✭✭✭v240gltse


    auto every time particularly city driving


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭Redderneck


    Step/tip/tango-tronic or whatever the hell your 'brand' is, so long as it's married to a largeish capacity engine with a bit of pulling power. Leave it in ooze mode for town driving and have the option of flicking it around if road/conditions permit.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    Redderneck wrote: »
    Step/tip/tango-tronic or whatever the hell your 'brand' is

    Flappy paddles are a steaming pile of dung and a nonsense gimmick. Only fit for games consoles.

    "Traditional" epicyclic waft-o-matic, CVT or manual.

    Pre-selector, AMT (DSG, I-Shift or any of those automated manual shifts) and any half-arsed semi-automatic I'll pass on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Stheno wrote: »
    NO Fox, cars without leather, cruise control and aircon are for the peasantry :pac:

    I'm sorry, I'll have to raise the bar here and add...........cabrio to that :D

    Next ?



    Seriously, why would you pick a manual or auto, when you can have both ? : PDK/DSG/S-Tronic etc etc etc ?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,177 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    macplaxton wrote: »
    Flappy paddles are a steaming pile of dung and a nonsense gimmick. Only fit for games consoles.

    "Traditional" epicyclic waft-o-matic, CVT or manual.

    Pre-selector, AMT (DSG, I-Shift or any of those automated manual shifts) and any half-arsed semi-automatic I'll pass on.

    Epicyclic slushboxes seldom fail to displease me. After a lot of road and a lot of cars I can count on one hand the number of them that didn't. :pac:

    CVT is the work of Beelzebub outside of a step-thru or mobility scooter or the like. DCT on the other hand offers a lot of advantages.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    Transmission explained. There is more to a simple Auto or Manual answer than people realise. Auto boxes come in various guise as explained in detail here.

    http://www.caradvice.com.au/278721/transmissions-explained-manual-v-automatic-v-dual-clutch-v-cvt-v-others/


  • Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭Joe 90


    Having bought my first ever automatic a few weeks ao, the jury i still out. Driven lots of them over the years of course but never owned one.
    The fact is though that manual gera changes these dyas are generaly pretty lousy compared to the old Ford 200e based boxes. However the deciding factor for me was that the car I hd decided on only came as an auto. So far extremly pleased with the car but still wonder if it would be better if a good manual were available.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Given the main problem with diesels is the narrow power band, would a really good modern auto box make that problem pretty much go away?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭micks_address


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Epicyclic slushboxes seldom fail to displease me. After a lot of road and a lot of cars I can count on one hand the number of them that didn't. :pac:

    CVT is the work of Beelzebub outside of a step-thru or mobility scooter or the like. DCT on the other hand offers a lot of advantages.

    What's cvt and why is it so bad?


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    V8's with autos


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    anyone taking their opinion of an auto from anything under 2 litre (~130bhp) needs to have a go in one to really gauge auto boxes. The conventional torque convertor auto boxes are a nightmare to drive on smaller engines.


  • Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭Joe 90


    :cool:
    anyone taking their opinion of an auto from anything under 2 litre (~130bhp) needs to have a go in one to really gauge auto boxes. The conventional torque convertor auto boxes are a nightmare to drive on smaller engines.
    Once upon a time, late 60s to eary 70s, Honda did a little mini car. I think that the basic version was in fact 360cc but there was a 600cc version. My the bosses fife had an automatic 600 and it was really quite useful for the time.

    If I remember, and we are talking over 40 years ago, it had a three speed box of some sort with a torque converter. I say a 3 speed of some sort because somewhere in th aback of my mind I have the idea that it was not an epicyclic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,468 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    anyone taking their opinion of an auto from anything under 2 litre (~130bhp) needs to have a go in one to really gauge auto boxes. The conventional torque convertor auto boxes are a nightmare to drive on smaller engines.

    I've said it earlier in the tread, but more and more small cars are coming with dual clutch boxes now and most are supposedly excellent. It's no longer the case that you a decent sized engine, just try a modern setup.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Lutecia


    Joe 90 wrote: »
    :cool:
    Once upon a time, late 60s to eary 70s, Honda did a little mini car. I think that the basic version was in fact 360cc but there was a 600cc version. My the bosses fife had an automatic 600 and it was really quite useful for the time.

    If I remember, and we are talking over 40 years ago, it had a three speed box of some sort with a torque converter. I say a 3 speed of some sort because somewhere in th aback of my mind I have the idea that it was not an epicyclic.

    It was the N360/600
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_N360

    My mother bought one new. It was in the France of the early 70's where everyone had Renault 4 or 2CV. Must have felt like owning something really out of place. Especially since Japanese cars have never been popular in France, let alone the 60's. But that did the job!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 694 ✭✭✭5W30


    I've always praised manual but I drove a Volvo XC90 automatic around town a few months ago and it was amazing. So easy to be lazy.


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