Do some people want to see Ireland do badly at the Rugby World Cup?

diusmr8a504cvk

People are being very optimistic if not overly optimistic about how Ireland will fare in the Rugby World Cup this year, but I get the sense that some people want them to fail.
I honestly think that there are some that want them to do badly just so they can say "Didn't I tell ya Ireland would go nowhere, they're useless sure!".
What do ye think?

Muahahaha

I want them to do well but I'm already sick of some hacks saying we're going to win it and generally talking up our chances. I watched the New Zealand v Australia game on Saturday morning and both of those teams would put us to the sword in a World Cup, as would South Africa too I suspect.

Tin Foil Hat

We're the second ranked team in the world. We have every chance of winning it.

Stheno

Muahahaha wrote: »

I want them to do well but I'm already sick of some hacks saying we're going to win it and generally talking up our chances. I watched the New Zealand v Australia game on Saturday morning and both of those teams would put us to the sword in a World Cup, as would South Africa too I suspect.

We are now number two in the World, something we have never before achieved in Rugby

If we go one step forward and win the World Cup, I for one will be out on the street welcoming that team home

They seem to have some uncanny sense of belief, and a coach who is tipped to lead the All Blacks in the future.

Best of luck to them, I personally can't imagine even the thoughts of Ireland being in a rugby WC final, and the sheer excitement

We have a superb team at the moment, and an incredible coach, as a unit most international sides fear them.

dpofloinn

Probably there is always gonna be c...nts who love nothing better than negativity and pissing all over peoples positivity

Stheno

Muahahaha wrote: »

I want them to do well but I'm already sick of some hacks saying we're going to win it and generally talking up our chances. I watched the New Zealand v Australia game on Saturday morning and both of those teams would put us to the sword in a World Cup, as would South Africa too I suspect.

Last time we met Australia and SA we beat them

NZ are our only team we've not beaten

Dont call me Shirley

Ruggers, a sport for posh bell ends.

diomed

Not the real World Cup.

Zaph

Best of luck to them, I hope they do well. But if they could do it in a hermetically sealed bubble somewhere so I'm not confronted with anything to do with the rugby world cup every time I turn on the TV, click on a website or open a newspaper that would be very much appreciated thanks. It's bad enough that I hate rugby, but the feckers stretch the bloody thing out for six weeks and I'm of the opinion that it's just to p*ss me off.

WoollyRedHat

Muahahaha wrote: »

I want them to do well but I'm already sick of some hacks saying we're going to win it and generally talking up our chances. I watched the New Zealand v Australia game on Saturday morning and both of those teams would put us to the sword in a World Cup, as would South Africa too I suspect.

They're talking us up because Schmidt has made us into a very well drilled side and force to be reckoned with with a very talented pool of players. You must not have watched us in the last year if you generally think that all those teams would put us to the sword. We have what it takes to put it up to New Zealand, I think this World Cup will be very exciting and the fact it's in the NH will be to our advantage.

diusmr8a504cvk

Zaph wrote: »

Best of luck to them, I hope they do well. But if they could do it in a hermetically sealed bubble somewhere so I'm not confronted with anything to do with the rugby world cup every time I turn on the TV, click on a website or open a newspaper that would be very much appreciated thanks. It's bad enough that I hate rugby, but the feckers stretch the bloody thing out for six weeks and I'm of the opinion that it's just to p*ss me off.

But why?

Eugene Norman

Muahahaha wrote: »

I want them to do well but I'm already sick of some hacks saying we're going to win it and generally talking up our chances. I watched the New Zealand v Australia game on Saturday morning and both of those teams would put us to the sword in a World Cup, as would South Africa too I suspect.

Any links? In general most people think we have a good chance of getting to a SF, and then it gets tough.

Tin Foil Hat

Zaph wrote: »

Best of luck to them, I hope they do well. But if they could do it in a hermetically sealed bubble somewhere so I'm not confronted with anything to do with the rugby world cup every time I turn on the TV, click on a website or open a newspaper that would be very much appreciated thanks. It's bad enough that I hate rugby, but the feckers stretch the bloody thing out for six weeks and I'm of the opinion that it's just to p*ss me off.

Yet here you are - voluntarily reading and replying to a thread on it.

Stheno

Dont call me Shirley wrote: »

Ruggers, a sport for posh bell ends.

Ruggers, a sport equally dominated by posh Dublin areas and towns throughout the country like Limerick where some of our finest players have come from

I grew up in Portlaoise, and it was a big sport there, with players competing regardless of "class"

I wonder if we win the world cup, will you still have the same attitude?

I can't stand football, but by god I supported our team in Italia 90 etc.

Ave Sodalis

Dont call me Shirley wrote: »

Ruggers, a sport for posh bell ends.

Super posh... http://fullonrugby.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2914533075_194d0fcb8f-205x300.jpg

One eyed Jack

Dont call me Shirley wrote: »

Ruggers, a sport for posh bell ends.

Nobody likes a smeggy bell end though in all fairness? :pac:

I like to keep my rugby balls in good nick too...

Zaph

Yahya Future Snowplow wrote: »

But why?

Two reasons - firstly it's mind-numbingly tedious. Every set play takes forever to actually happen. And secondly I grew up in south county Dublin in the 70s when rugby was a far less egalitarian game than it is now. The only people who liked rugby were the stereotypical "rugger buggers" who sneered and looked down at us soccer loving oiks. I have no time for people like that, and consequently I've no time for their sport.

WoollyRedHat

Dont call me Shirley wrote: »

Ruggers, a sport for posh bell ends.

Leinster lad steal the mot?

We have never even made it to a semi final, unlike Scotland and Wales. So if we do, that'll be an achievement. Insofar as going far in a competition with what, 7 or 8 competitors, counts.

Fr_Dougal

Really looking forward to it, have tickets, flights and accommodation all sorted for the games.

Eugene Norman

Zaph wrote: »

Best of luck to them, I hope they do well. But if they could do it in a hermetically sealed bubble somewhere so I'm not confronted with anything to do with the rugby world cup every time I turn on the TV, click on a website or open a newspaper that would be very much appreciated thanks. It's bad enough that I hate rugby, but the feckers stretch the bloody thing out for six weeks and I'm of the opinion that it's just to p*ss me off.

You can imagine what the rest of us think of prole ball. The few weeks of quiet in my local disappeared recently when the stupid game started again, along with its sky sports hysteria. Didn't that used to be September? And it's never off the box. Friday. All day Saturday. Super stupid Sunday. Monday night prole ball. Tuesday night euro ball. Wednesday night other euro ball. I'm sure Thursday is under threat of some unnecessary competition or other.

Rugby, 6 weeks of bliss in comparison.

When the Sun Hits

I'm really looking forward to it. We definitely have a chance but personally I think NZ will win it.

Stheno

Zaph wrote: »

Two reasons - firstly it's mind-numbingly tedious. Every set play takes forever to actually happen. And secondly I grew up in south county Dublin in the 70s when rugby was a far less egalitarian game than it is now. The only people who liked rugby were the stereotypical "rugger buggers" who sneered and looked down at us soccer loving oiks. I have no time for people like that, and consequently I've no time for their sport.

Weird apart from hurling, it's the most exciting sport I know of, and I follow a lot.

Secondly, as a working class child, when I took it up as a female adult in Blackrock, I was only welcomed warmly

I did grow up thinking it was open to all though.

Surely though, if we were to win the world cup, you would put those feelings aside?

Son Of A Vidic

I don't get this petty sporting tribalistic nonsense and rivalry between some sports. There are many sports I don't have much interest in, but I'll always want to see an Irish team or individual being successful in their chosen field.

Tigerbaby

Irish Rugby:

a flotilla of drug-enhanced freaks who cant say the word "roundabout" properly

a rugby team:

15 people without necks.

a rugby crowd:

most should be in front of the Banking tribunal


cheers!

The Backwards Man

I'll give my opinion through the medium of song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r26krlXFmOI

Victor

Yahya Future Snowplow wrote: »

Do some people want to see Ireland do badly at the Rugby World Cup?

All the other participants?

Eugene Norman

I grew up in the northsude supporting Ireland in soccer and Man U . My dad took me to Irish games. Still support Ireland but the English club fanatics leave me cold. It's a childish fixation, like trading cards and reading children's books. So I stopped. Adults who are into club soccer are total bores. It's all they talk about.

I've always watched the 6N and will love to see Ireland do well in rugby, as in all sports. The WC should be great for us.

Muahahaha

Stheno wrote: »

Last time we met Australia and SA we beat them

NZ are our only team we've not beaten

There's a gulf of difference between beating Australia and SA in Autumn Internationals and beating them at a World Cup, a WC is just on a whole different level. We've beaten France a good few times at this stage but the French always step up a gear in World Cups.

If NZ play the same way they did against Australia last Saturday then they will dance rings around our team, nobody can live with them in that form.

I want Ireland to do well and will be shouting my head off for them but the WC is still a few weeks away and some people are losing the run of themselves already. It reminds me of 2007 when we were expecting to do well and the media hyped it and hyped it till we totally flopped on the big occasions.

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

Weird apart from hurling, it's the most exciting sport I know of, and I follow a lot.

Secondly, as a working class child, when I took it up as a female adult in Blackrock, I was only welcomed warmly

I did grow up thinking it was open to all though.

Surely though, if we were to win the world cup, you would put those feelings aside?

It's not exciting.

It can be interesting.

But any sport where a round of applause goes to some fat guy who kicks the ball into the car park is not exciting.

For Forks Sake

Tigerbaby wrote: »

Irish Rugby:

a flotilla of drug-enhanced freaks who cant say the word "roundabout" properly

a rugby team:

15 people without necks.

a rugby crowd:

most should be in front of the Banking tribunal


cheers!

Needs moar outdated stereotypes.

2/10

For Forks Sake

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'll give my opinion through the medium of song

Oh no you won't. It's interpretive dance, or nothing around these parts.

diusmr8a504cvk

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not exciting.

It can be interesting.

But any sport where a round of applause goes to some fat guy who kicks the ball into the car park is not exciting.

Johnny Sexton, Ronan O'Gara and Dan Carter were all "fat" yeah?

Eugene Norman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's not exciting.

It can be interesting.

But any sport where a round of applause goes to some fat guy who kicks the ball into the car park is not exciting.

Yeah. That would be a dull sport. Though rugby players aren't fat nor likely to kick into a car park.

0-0 draws are not interesting though.

Stheno

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I don't get this petty sporting tribalistic nonsense and rivalry between some sports. There are many sports I don't have much interest in, but I'll always want to see an Irish team or individual being successful in their chosen field.

I'm the same. I'm a Leinster fan, if they lose, then it's any Irish team for me in Rugby

If Ireland are doing well in any sport I'll support them.

I remember when Ireland beat England in the Cricket world cup a few years ago, was the only thing we talked about in the office for a few days :0

Eugene Norman

Muahahaha wrote: »

There's a gulf of difference between beating Australia and SA in Autumn Internationals and beating them at a World Cup, a WC is just on a whole different level. We've beaten France a good few times at this stage but the French always step up a gear in World Cups.

If NZ play the same way they did against Australia last Saturday then they will dance rings around our team, nobody can live with them in that form.

I want Ireland to do well and will be shouting my head off for them but the WC is still a few weeks away and some people are losing the run of themselves already. It reminds me of 2007 when we were expecting to do well and the media hyped it and hyped it till we totally flopped on the big occasions.

I'm not reading anybody who thinks we are going to win the WC. However our group is relatively easy and our route to the semi final easy enough if we beat France. Easier than the other groups.

Herpes Cineplex

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'll give my opinion through the medium of song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r26krlXFmOI

So you don't care, yet you cared enough to post that.

Tigerbaby

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Needs moar outdated stereotypes.

2/10

needs better spelling.

diusmr8a504cvk

Tigerbaby wrote: »

needs better spelling.

Even I know that the "moar" in his sentence was deliberate.

The Backwards Man

Herpes Cineplex wrote: »

So you don't care, yet you cared enough to post that.

No, the other way round.

Eugene Norman

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Yeah. That would be a dull sport. Though rugby players aren't fat nor likely to kick into a car park.

0-0 draws are not interesting though.

I remember watching players like Nick Popplewell and the fellow they called the Claw whose name escapes me, but they were fat as fools and they liked to engage in a little bit of violence. Now, I don't mind violence in sport, but at least Tyrone GAA players or rugby league players look athletic while they do so.

Tigerbaby

Yahya Future Snowplow wrote: »

Even I know that the "moar" in his sentence was deliberate.

well good for you.

what a remarkable intelligence you have.

when I see Rugby teams "playing", I am minded of the vast uninhibited, mindless crush of the Wildebeest as they cavort across the Serengeti:

lots of enthusiasm, little forethought, and the hell with whoever gets trampled.

Much like a larger version of WWE.

Sport ?

cheers.

osarusan

I want Ireland to do well, but I do take a perverse pleasure in Munster losing.

Yahya Future Snowplow

Yahya Future Snowplow wrote: »

Johnny Sexton, Ronan O'Gara and Dan Carter were all "fat" yeah?

O'Gara was the boorish guy from Munster who used to kick the ball every time he got it?

No, no he wasn't fat in fairness.

Zaph

Stheno wrote: »

Surely though, if we were to win the world cup, you would put those feelings aside?

It would be an immense achievement and possibly the greatest Irish sporting victory ever, but I'd seriously struggle to get excited about it myself.

One eyed Jack

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I remember watching players like Nick Popplewell and the fellow they called the Claw whose name escapes me, but they were fat as fools and they liked to engage in a little bit of violence. Now, I don't mind violence in sport, but at least Tyrone GAA players or rugby league players look athletic while they do so.

Peter Clohessy?

J Mysterio

How dare you refer to ROG in that insolent tone.

Stheno

Deleted User wrote: »

I remember watching players like Nick Popplewell and the fellow they called the Claw whose name escapes me, but they were fat as fools and they liked to engage in a little bit of violence. Now, I don't mind violence in sport, but at least Tyrone GAA players or rugby league players look athletic while they do so.

Clohessy you are thinking of, he was a hooker, they tend to be fairly well built folk but not what anyone would call fat

Massive yes in terms of bulk but not fat

Rugby is a violent game, I once played a match where seven of the opposing fifteen were taken off and that was a womens rugby match

Herpes Cineplex

The Backwards Man wrote: »

No, the other way round.

There you go getting it all backwards again.

Fleawuss

I want them to do very well. What is worrying is the hype. Most top flight matched turn on a few tight calls during a game. Add to that injuries to pool of really good international players we have and all sorts of things go pear shaped. There is too much hype. It's fair to say we have the highest ranking we have ever had but it will take very little to go wrong for that to change. So I hope they do well but I've nowhere near the expectations that the meeja are touting.

diusmr8a504cvk

Tigerbaby wrote: »

well good for you.

what a remarkable intelligence you have.

when I see Rugby teams "playing", I am minded of the vast uninhibited, mindless crush of the Wildebeest as they cavort across the Serengeti:

lots of enthusiasm, little forethought, and the hell with whoever gets trampled.

Much like a larger version of WWE.

Sport ?

cheers.

Not sure if you're firing shots at me with that line but whatever. Rugby's a great sport especially at international level. Every game is very important unlike International Soccer which is very boring in my opinion.
I guess you're a GAA man, and don't get me wrong I'm as into GAA as the next guy, but everything you've said about Rugby really fits the stereotype of the backwards GAA man who thinks every sport outside of GAA doesn't exist and that those who don't play the holy Gaelic games are inferior athletes to those who do.