2015/2016 Season predictions

2nd Row Donkey

... you know the drill lads.

No fear of this becoming a repeat of the infamous ''this year we could actually do it" thread.

But let's not get carried away by last night poor performance against RM either.

Usual stuff

Top 4 final positions
Relegated teams
Spurs final position

Cup winners
Spurs cup prediction

Spurs top goal scorer
Breakout player


... feel free to add others.

DubPerryman

Top 4 final positions: 1st Chelsea. 2nd United. 3rd City. 4th Gooners.

Relegated teams: Sunderland, Norwich, Bournemouth

Spurs final position: 5th - too early for 4th, our young team is still developing.

Cup winners: FA Cup: Chelsea League Cup: Man City Champions League: Real Madrid Europa League: Some Champions League drop out

Spurs cup prediction: FA Cup: Quarter Finals League Cup: Semi Finals Europa League: Quarter Finals

Spurs top goal scorer: Harry Kane

Breakout player: Dele Alli

KingdomYid

Top 4 final positions: 1st Chelsea. 2nd City. 3rd Gooners. 4th United.

Relegated teams: Leicester, Norwich, Bournemouth

Spurs final position: 6th - will fall behind Liverpool in the pecking order

Cup winners: FA Cup: United League Cup: Man City Champions League: Barcelona Europa League: No idea

Spurs cup prediction: FA Cup: Round 6 League Cup: Final again Europa League: Quarter Finals

Spurs top goal scorer: Harry Kane

Breakout player: Delli Alli

Ormus

Top 4 final positions: 1st Chelsea. 2nd Arsenal. 3rd City. 4th United.

Relegated teams: Sunderland, Norwich, Watford

Spurs final position: 5th

Spurs top goal scorer: Goes without saying.

Don't see the point in trying to predict who will win the cups, sorry.

Dublin Spur

League Position - 6th
FA cup - 4th Round
League Cup - Semi-final
Europa - Last 32
Managers - 2

slegs

League: 1st Arsenal 2nd Chelsea 3rd Man City 4th Spurs (cant not believe at this stage without a ball kicked!)
Relegation: Bournemouth, Watford, Sunderland
FA Cup: 3rd Roaund
League Cup: Winners
Europa: QF

mushykeogh

Watched the arsenal game tonight, both teams miles ahead of us at the moment.

2nd Row Donkey

mushykeogh wrote:

Watched the arsenal game tonight, both teams miles ahead of us at the moment.

You know what. I was just saying the exact same thing to the wife (she wasn't interested).

It was like watching a different sport compared to that drivel on Saturday afternoon. 2 teams playing end to end stuff. Full of purpose, poise and pace.

mushykeogh

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Y Full of purpose, poise and pace.

Yep, it looked like they had a plan and knew how to play. Imagine that.

DubPerryman

mushykeogh wrote: »

Watched the arsenal game tonight, both teams miles ahead of us at the moment.

Disagree.

Arsenal's defence was all over the place, Liverpool should have been 3 up at half time.

West Ham beat Arsenal 2-0, then got beaten by Bournemouth.

Granted, Liverpool have kept it tight and performed well defensively.

Though don't for a second think that the Arsenal fans think they're miles ahead of us!

Just as Carragher said last night, "the top 6 will rise to the top, they always do."

The level of knee jerk negativity here is disgusting!

mushykeogh

DubPerryman wrote: »

Disagree.

Arsenal's defence was all over the place, Liverpool should have been 3 up at half time.

Yes, probably because they were missing their two first choice central defenders. Knee jerk? Gimme a break, we finished last season playing tripe and started this season playing tripe. If you think we are the same level as those two last night at the moment your in cloud cuckoo land.

have you seen the last 3 games? We are clueless!

DubPerryman

mushykeogh wrote: »

Yes, probably because they were missing their two first choice central defenders. Knee jerk? Gimme a break, we finished last season playing tripe and started this season playing tripe. If you think we are the same level as those two last night at the moment your in cloud cuckoo land.

have you seen the last 3 games? We are clueless!

It's frustrating, but give it time to settle down before you start seizing us up for relegation. The transfer window hasn't even closed.

They were missing their first choice centre backs?!! They somehow kept a clean sheet last night.

They conceded TWO against West Ham at home and TWO against Palace with their "first choice centre back".

Are West Ham and Crystal Palace miles ahead of us too?

mushykeogh

DubPerryman wrote: »

It's frustrating, but give it time to settle down before you start seizing us up for relegation.

Never mentioned relegation so i don't know why you are mentioning that.

They conceded TWO against West Ham at home and TWO against Palace with their "first choice centre back".

Are West Ham and Crystal Palace miles ahead of us too?

Their defence is poor but it always has, didn't see the west ham game, but i saw last night and palace, Arsenal and Liverpool are playing way better stuff than us.

DubPerryman

mushykeogh wrote: »

Never mentioned relegation so i don't know why you are mentioning that.

Your view of us being miles behind was way over dramatic, so I responded in kind.

mushykeogh wrote: »

Their defence is poor but it always has, didn't see the west ham game, but i saw last night and palace, Arsenal and Liverpool are playing way better stuff than us.

I don't disagree that last night's match was entertaining.

Though, West Ham beat Arsenal. Liverpool were lucky to hang on to a slender lead against Bournemouth. Arsenal were lucky to get out of Selhurst Park with all three points.

The above suggests that Arsenal and Liverpool are not really miles ahead of anyone.

At this stage, I'd say only Man City could be put in that bracket.

mushykeogh

DubPerryman wrote: »

Your view of us being miles behind was way over dramatic, so I responded in kind.

your right, we are so close to Arsenal and Liverpool right now i don't know why i even bothered to comment.

DubPerryman

mushykeogh wrote: »

your right, we are so close to Arsenal and Liverpool right now i don't know why i even bothered to comment.

Fair enough.

golfball37

At this juncture I would say there are at least 8 teams better than us in the division currently.

Ormus

DubPerryman wrote: »

Disagree.

Arsenal's defence was all over the place, Liverpool should have been 3 up at half time.

West Ham beat Arsenal 2-0, then got beaten by Bournemouth.

Granted, Liverpool have kept it tight and performed well defensively.

Though don't for a second think that the Arsenal fans think they're miles ahead of us!

Just as Carragher said last night, "the top 6 will rise to the top, they always do."

The level of knee jerk negativity here is disgusting!

Well said. It's hysteria.

Ormus

mushykeogh wrote: »

Yes, probably because they were missing their two first choice central defenders. Knee jerk? Gimme a break, we finished last season playing tripe and started this season playing tripe. If you think we are the same level as those two last night at the moment your in cloud cuckoo land.

have you seen the last 3 games? We are clueless!

We finished last season in 5th. I know it's not as good as 4th, but it can't really be tripe.

Hammar

Ormus wrote: »

We finished last season in 5th. I know it's not as good as 4th, but it can't really be tripe.

I wouldn't say finishing 5th was much of an achievement last year to be fair.
Everton imploded, while Man U,Liverpool and ourselves all conspired to try and hand 4th place to one of the other two. Man Utd were slightly less crap than ourselves and Liverpool and stumbled over the finish line for 4th.

Ormus

Hammar wrote: »

I wouldn't say finishing 5th was much of an achievement last year to be fair.
Everton imploded, while Man U,Liverpool and ourselves all conspired to try and hand 4th place to one of the other two. Man Utd were slightly less crap than ourselves and Liverpool and stumbled over the finish line for 4th.

I wouldn't say it was much of an achievement either. I thought we were poor last season. We overachieved.

But to say it's tripe or we're clueless is just non-sensical.

mushykeogh

Ormus wrote: »

I wouldn't say it was much of an achievement either. I thought we were poor last season. We overachieved.

But to say it's tripe or we're clueless is just non-sensical.

I didn't say ALL of last season, i said towards the end, our last few games were brutal, like our first three this season. Did you watch the game on Saturday? clueless is a very apt description imo.

Dublin Spur

Com'on now, Arsenal and Liverpool are miles ahead of us at the moment - surely everyone can see this?

Liverpool have some great players going forward, (particulary Coutinho) and are pretty solid in all areas. They have invested well this summer and still have sturridge to come back into the side. They have more pace, imagination and grit (Henderson & Milner) than us.

Arsenal defended poorly in the 1st half last night but it was their 3rd and 4th choice center backs. We need to compare our first choice 11s and they are stronger than us in every single position bar maybe in goal.

Us on the other hand don't seem to have a plan, we have no leaders, no pace and no imagination. We are basically back to where we were 11 years ago before Santini left the club. It been a shocking decline from where we were just a few years ago.

Sugarlumps

Most topics on here seem to go way off kilter from what they originally set out to do?

Ormus

mushykeogh wrote: »

I didn't say ALL of last season, i said towards the end, our last few games were brutal, like our first three this season. Did you watch the game on Saturday? clueless is a very apt description imo.

I did watch the game. We were poor. If we were clueless, we would have lost 5-0. Instead we got a draw away from home against a team that won its first two matches. It wasn't a great result, but it wasn't a disaster, and certainly wouldn't have been possible if we were clueless.

DubPerryman

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Com'on now, Arsenal and Liverpool are miles ahead of us at the moment - surely everyone can see this?

That's your opinion. However, I'm of the opinion that if West Ham can go to the Emirates and win 2-0, yet be beaten by Bournemouth - then Arsenal aren't miles ahead of anyone.

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Arsenal defended poorly in the 1st half last night but it was their 3rd and 4th choice center backs. We need to compare our first choice 11s and they are stronger than us in every single position bar maybe in goal.

Their first choice 11 conceded two at Palace and West Ham!

Dublin Spur

DubPerryman wrote: »

That's your opinion. However, I'm of the opinion that if West Ham can go to the Emirates and win 2-0, yet be beaten by Bournemouth - then Arsenal aren't miles ahead of anyone.





Their first choice 11 conceded two at Palace and West Ham!

They have finished above us 20 years in a row and they have better players then us in 10 out of 11 positions - do you really think we are better than them ?

Hatch99

Let's see how the next week goes... But as we stand arsenal are in a different league to us.... And Liverpool have a stronger starting 11 too...

DubPerryman

Dublin Spur wrote: »

They have finished above us 20 years in a row and they have better players then us in 10 out of 11 positions - do you really think we are better than them ?

When did I ever say we were better than them?????

All I said is the negativity on this forum is disgusting.

Arsenal have been exposed this year, which is a fact. Arsenal have conceded two goals in two games against 'weaker' teams, which is a fact.

In my mind, that would suggest that Arsenal are not miles ahead of anyone in the league. Yes, it's my opinion, but it's closer to fact than not.

Dublin Spur

DubPerryman wrote: »

When did I ever say we were better than them?????

All I said is the negativity on this forum is disgusting.

Arsenal have been exposed this year, which is a fact. Arsenal have conceded two goals in two games against 'weaker' teams, which is a fact.

In my mind, that would suggest that Arsenal are not miles ahead of anyone in the league. Yes, it's my opinion, but it's closer to fact than not.

fair enough, both clubs have begun poorly but I think the gap is a lot wider. I suppose the point difference at the end of the season will tell the true story.

The negativity surrounding THFC is not restricted to just this forum, it's widespread now after years of false dawns and broken promises.

Is it not reasonable to be a bit pissed off that our club:

• Brings in more money from transfers than it spends
• Is in the middle of leanest trophy run since the war
• Has a team with no leaders and no pace that plays dull football
• Expects the supports to shell out some of the highest ticket prices in Europe
• Blew the opportunity that Champions League qualification gave us
• Wasted the Gareth Bale transfer kitty
• Has a chairman who consistently attempts to remove himself from blame when his latest manager, coach, DOF makes a complete bollox of their role.
• Does its business as late as possible in order to save a few quid to the detriment of the football team.

When some of the above are addressed I think you'll find that a lot of the negativity will ease. However while they remain in place you'd have to be barking mad to expect anyone to be positive about what's happening at the club.

2nd Row Donkey

For years now enic have done a fine job into convincing a large section of our own fans into accepting mediocrity. Actually not even accepting it but in some cases even appreciating it. God forbid we'd have a bit of ambition to better ourselves.

It's better to aim high and fail then aim low and succeed and all that...

.. sure we all know people who work their whole lives in the same job or stay in avdead end relationship/marraiges because they haven't the balls to move on. I often wonder if the same people are those kinda fans - secret spurs fans who want better but wouldn't know what to do it they actually got it.

irishmover

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

For years now enic have done a fine job into convincing a large section of our own fans into accepting mediocrity. Actually not even accepting it but in some cases even appreciating it. God forbid we'd have a bit of ambition to better ourselves.

It's better to aim high and fail then aim low and succeed and all that...

.. sure we all know people who work their whole lives in the same job or stay in avdead end relationship/marraiges because they haven't the balls to move on. I often wonder if the same people are those kinda fans - secret spurs fans who want better but wouldn't know what to do it they actually got it.

So.. Are you predicting another season of mediocrity or just in the wrong thread?

2nd Row Donkey

irishmover wrote:

So.. Are you predicting another season of mediocrity or just in the wrong thread?

Well both obviously! !!


.. we'll go on a nice little run in a few weeks time. Just enough to take the heat off the club ... by Christmas we will all have some bizarre feeling that maybe this season will be a good one after all and just when we've got used to that idea the season will unfold and taper of in March/April as usual. Then rinse and repeat and start again next June. Yawn.

2nd Row Donkey

... and seeing as this is the prediction thread I predict one thing

- Poch will not be in charge by next Summer.
I'm on record in last year's (14/15 season) thread as saying he won't be there in June 2016 and I stand by that call I made last Aug.

He won't be sacked either. Even Levy wouldn't sack yet another manager. But I think he will quit either out of frustration or for a better job offer.

.. just to clarify (before I get jumped on by the haters). I DO NOT THINK POCH SHOULD BE FIRED ... not even close. I think he his doing a very decent job.

Ormus

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

... and seeing as this is the prediction thread I predict one thing

- Poch will not be in charge by next Summer.
I'm on record in last year's (14/15 season) thread as saying he won't be there in June 2016 and I stand by that call I made last Aug.

He won't be sacked either. Even Levy wouldn't sack yet another manager. But I think he will quit either out of frustration or for a better job offer.

.. just to clarify (before I get jumped on by the haters). I DO NOT THINK POCH SHOULD BE FIRED ... not even close. I think he his doing a very decent job.

That's not really much of a prediction. The average tenure of a Premiership manager is not much more than a season.

2nd Row Donkey

Ormus wrote:

That's not really much of a prediction. The average tenure of a Premiership manager is not much more than a season.

Yeah. When you include the number of managers quitting or been sacked following a relegation that sounds about right. Some of them go through 3 managers a year which distorts the figure.

... but when you examine the teams who consistently stay within the division for extended and continuous periods lilke ourselves, Everton, Stoke, villa then the average length of a managers reign is considerably more.

Dublin Spur

Ormus wrote: »

That's not really much of a prediction. The average tenure of a Premiership manager is not much more than a season.

wouldn't it be nice to be the exception to the rule for a change ?
Getting to that place involves 2 key criteria:

1. Hiring a top quality manager to begin with
2. Supporting him 100% in the transfer market

Rarely, but sometimes we succeed in the first point, but we never ever deliver on the second item.

And when it all inevitably falls apart the unsupported manger gets the boot and the whole bullsh1t cycle starts again.

Ormus

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Yeah. When you include the number of managers quitting or been sacked following a relegation that sounds about right. Some of them go through 3 managers a year which distorts the figure.

... but when you examine the teams who consistently stay within the division for extended and continuous periods lilke ourselves, Everton, Stoke, villa then the average length of a managers reign is considerably more.

Well if Poch makes it to June 2016, he'll be two full years in the job. Apart from Wenger, I can't think of many managers who have been that long in the job. Rodgers is 3 years I guess. Pellegrini is two. After that Eddie Howe?

So 3 out of 20 in the job over two years.

irishmover

After the window shutting and taking a look at the teams around us I think it'll be 5th again. Dropping out early in the Europa League and Capitol one cup.

I think we'll finish ahead of Liverpool. I don't think they're that good of a side. If Son can perform and get goals then I think we'll pip them again.

2nd Row Donkey

If we can string a few results together and beat Arsenal at the end of the month then that might be the catalyst to go on a bit of a pre xmas run.

I'd say 6th or a close 7th on goal diff or something like that.

tom1ie

10th

DubPerryman

I think Chadli's goal input last season was under rated. This season he's has a few tidy assists and a goal.

If we put Son on the other wing, instead of Lamela, we might get Kane scoring again.

Eriksen will pull the strings in the number ten.

On top off all the above, we have a far stronger defence than last year.

So my season prediction is an unlucky 5th but a good run for 4th.

jobeenfitz

I'm feeling positive after getting over the failure to sign a striker. We still have Hugo. Expecting Kane to start scoring again soon. If Poch flogs Kane to death in Europa n other cups we fin 7th. If he is sensible with Kane and providing no major injury until Daniel buys a world class striker in January we could sneak 4th.

So 4th but wouldn't bet any more than twenty on it.

irishmover

jobeenfitz wrote: »

I'm feeling positive after getting over the failure to sign a striker. We still have Hugo. Expecting Kane to start scoring again soon. If Poch flogs Kane to death in Europa n other cups we fin 7th. If he is sensible with Kane and providing no major injury until Daniel buys a world class striker in January we could sneak 4th.

So 4th but wouldn't bet any more than twenty on it.

Haha could you imagine the reaction if we did finish 4th.

I'm sure someone would be still having a strop at the owners.

KingdomYid

irishmover wrote: »

Haha could you imagine the reaction if we did finish 4th.

I'm sure someone would be still having a strop at the owners.

Am sure the reaction would be amazing as we are all Spurs fans at the end of the day.

irishmover

KingdomYid wrote: »

Am sure the reaction would be amazing as we are all Spurs fans at the end of the day.

Yeh but it would be with a team Levy put together.

I thought most Spurs fans want us to fail so he gets the chop no? I'm sure finishing 4th would be a failure somehow. Just like signing 6 first team players is.

KingdomYid

irishmover wrote: »

Yeh but it would be with a team Levy put together.

I thought most Spurs fans want us to fail so he gets the chop no? I'm sure finishing 4th would be a failure somehow. Just like signing 6 first team players is.

Nope finishing 4th would be absolutely an amazing performance from this squad so definitely not a failure. COYS!!!!

Dublin Spur

irishmover wrote: »

Yeh but it would be with a team Levy put together.

I thought most Spurs fans want us to fail so he gets the chop no? I'm sure finishing 4th would be a failure somehow. Just like signing 6 first team players is.

I don't think anyone wants our team to fail - where ever did you get that idea from ?

When things go wrong at the club it's only right and proper to discuss the how's and the why's, we all have our own theories.

I know you find Levy criticism personally offensive - I'm not sure why you're so sensitive on the subject but each to their own at the end of the day.

positivenote

irishmover wrote: »

Yeh but it would be with a team Levy put together.

I thought most Spurs fans want us to fail so he gets the chop no?

here is the problem. The thought that any of us want us to fail is ridiculous. We are all entitled to our opinion and i for one am disgusted with how our club is being run on the football side of things. But every game we go in to I passionately hope we win and i would love nothing better than the likes of Son to become spurs legends and us to win things.

pleasant Co.

Dublin Spur wrote: »

I don't think anyone wants our team to fail - where ever did you get that idea from ?

Perhaps it was from one of your comments about preferring us to be in the championship if it meant levy/enic were got rid of?

tom1ie

I thought most Spurs fans want us to fail so he gets the chop no? I'm sure finishing 4th would be a failure somehow. Just like signing 6 first team players is.[/quote]

Most spurs fans want spurs to fail? What are you on about? What a ridiculous childish comment.
Is this supposed to be some way of getting back at the sizeable number of people on here giving out about the methods of the owners/management? If so that comment is pathetic.
Spurs fans are just that. FANS. We all want our team to win as much as possible