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Why is physical violence OK, but racism is not?

  • 29-07-2015 12:42PM
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    This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago.

    We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

    Yet Hogan says the N-word and the world loses its sh*t. Same for Donald Trump. The guy has done countless shady as f*ck things and yet it's only when he is racist to Mexicans/Latinos in general that things backfire.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,495 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    awaits the arrival of the PC-brigade......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

    But these cases weren't fine or ok. There's was uproar about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭Liamario


    This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago.

    We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

    Yet Hogan says the N-word and the world loses its sh*t. Same for Donald Trump. The guy has done countless shady as f*ck things and yet it's only when he is racist to Mexicans/Latinos in general that things backfire.

    YOU seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK. Most of us don't. Physical violence is not ok, whether it's against a man or a woman. The US has a problem with racism, both in how it deals with it and with the racists themselves.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Erm, physical violence isn't okay.

    Chris Brown beating Rhianna got a hell of a lot more publicity as far as I remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭brevity


    I remember lots of outcry over the Chris Brown/Rihanna incident. I'm sure a number of places refused to host his concerts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    This'll go well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭newport2


    This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago.

    We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

    Yet Hogan says the N-word and the world loses its sh*t. Same for Donald Trump. The guy has done countless shady as f*ck things and yet it's only when he is racist to Mexicans/Latinos in general that things backfire.

    There was uproar about Chris Brown and countless articles on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I don't know why you think physical violence is Ok, there is always controversy when someone is involved in violence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    I am inclined to agree that the publicity about Brown was fairly thorough. Actually, I at least know more about that case (and certainly see more references to it) than Hogan's case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Mayweather and Brown get shat on a hell of a lot to be fair about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    First I heard of the Hulk.


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    Erm, physical violence isn't okay.

    Chris Brown beating Rhianna got a hell of a lot more publicity as far as I remember.

    Publicity didn't harm anything though. Even during that period he was selling a lot of music and selling gigs. It just feels like if he were white and went on a racist rant, all those gigs would be cancelled.

    And I'm not saying physical violence is OK, but just confused as to how racism is worse and leads to stricter punishments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    There was more than a slight outcry over Chris Brown. He was a self employed musician though so there wasn't exactly anyone to sack him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    If I had to choose I'd take being called a thick potato munching paddy over a kick in the goolies any day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    kneemos wrote: »
    First I heard of the Hulk.

    Well don't make him angry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Publicity didn't harm anything though. Even during that period he was selling a lot of music and selling gigs.

    Lets face it though, Hogan is a has been so it's not going to damage his career.


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    kneemos wrote: »
    First I heard of the Hulk.

    The WWE completely erased him from their brand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago. .

    Also the tape refers to other wrestlers at some point. That's being blocked via a court case at the mo.
    We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name. .

    ....you were evidently off-world at the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Just to add, the one time I can recall physical violence being brushed under the carpet is the incident with Jeremy Clarkeson. All the fans shouting for him to get his job back etc etc. Then again, he's also racist. I wonder if it would have been different if he'd hit his wife and not a man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Not a NSA agent


    Never heard about Hogan saying anything, heard plenty about Chris Brown though.

    Where has anyone said physical violence is ok?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago.

    We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

    Yet Hogan says the N-word and the world loses its sh*t. Same for Donald Trump. The guy has done countless shady as f*ck things and yet it's only when he is racist to Mexicans/Latinos in general that things backfire.

    Do you believe that WWE is real too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭jjC123


    The Chris Brown incident attracted huge public outcry. You can't really fire Chris Brown though,he's not strictly employed by an organisation. Some places refused to host his concerts though.

    Hulk Hogan was fired the way any organisation would get rid of an employee for bringing that kind of bad publicity. Plus, he's pretty much finished career-wise anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    The only physical violence that I have seen society not being all that arsed about, was Solange Knowles's attack on Jay-Z (she became a bigger "celebrity" on the back of it if anything) and Kelly Brook's laughing on This Morning when she was tackled about punching two of her exes in the face.

    Otherwise though, seems male on female violence gets the condemnation it rightfully deserves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....you were evidently off-world at the time.


    :pac:


    I wouldn't have put it quite so bluntly, but yeah, this is pretty much it - different people care (or not) about different issues to different degrees and different standards.

    I doubt the same young women that supported Chris Brown and demonised Rihanna even know who Hulk Hogan is ffs!

    You really can't compare incomparable things like that as though it's the same group of people supporting one and condemning the other. You're talking about completely different audiences in all those cases.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,481 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    What planet are these "PC Brigade gone mad" people living on? There was huge outcry once Brown's beating of Rihanna got out.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine.
    Is this a windup?!

    Floyd Mayweather: The star athlete no sponsor will touch


    Chris Brown concert loses 4th sponsor


    those took no time to find, sure there are plenty more incidents.

    I only heard of hogan on some side link, the other 2 were very well reported, with huge outcry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,203 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Let me tell you something BROTHER!










    That's all I got :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    i think the point is just badly made here but the general statement being made by the OP has merit in it, just not how he says it.

    all forms of discrimination, violence should be treated the same - all deplorable and should be stamped out, yet it appears that certain ones get more attention.

    all these things should be treated with equal publicity and condemnation and this doenst happen. The Kelly Brook thing is a much better example than Rhianna, if it was the other way around, the mans career would be over.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    i think the point is just badly made here but the general statement being made by the OP has merit in it, just not how he says it.

    all forms of discrimination, violence should be treated the same - all deplorable and should be stamped out, yet it appears that certain ones get more attention.

    all these things should be treated with equal publicity and condemnation and this doenst happen. The Kelly Brook thing is a much better example than Rhianna, if it was the other way around, the mans career would be over.


    It's silly idealism to think that everyone in society should think in such a uniform manner. It's completely unrealistic.

    As for the nonsense about Kelly Brook, nobody gives a sh1t what Kelly Brook has to say at the best of times, so when she makes yet another dumb, off the cuff remark, well, people don't get outraged simply because she can be easily dismissed as an idiot. Nobody expects that much of her anyway.

    Sean Connery on the other hand, his comments about slapping women didn't put the skids on his career, and that's just one example off the top of my head.




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