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Why is physical violence OK, but racism is not?

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This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago.

We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

Yet Hogan says the N-word and the world loses its sh*t. Same for Donald Trump. The guy has done countless shady as f*ck things and yet it's only when he is racist to Mexicans/Latinos in general that things backfire.

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keeponhurling

awaits the arrival of the PC-brigade......

smash

Deleted User wrote: »

We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

But these cases weren't fine or ok. There's was uproar about them.

Liamario

Deleted User wrote: »

This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago.

We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

Yet Hogan says the N-word and the world loses its sh*t. Same for Donald Trump. The guy has done countless shady as f*ck things and yet it's only when he is racist to Mexicans/Latinos in general that things backfire.

YOU seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK. Most of us don't. Physical violence is not ok, whether it's against a man or a woman. The US has a problem with racism, both in how it deals with it and with the racists themselves.

MagicMarker

Erm, physical violence isn't okay.

Chris Brown beating Rhianna got a hell of a lot more publicity as far as I remember.

brevity

I remember lots of outcry over the Chris Brown/Rihanna incident. I'm sure a number of places refused to host his concerts.

pmasterson95

This'll go well.

newport2

Deleted User wrote: »

This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago.

We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

Yet Hogan says the N-word and the world loses its sh*t. Same for Donald Trump. The guy has done countless shady as f*ck things and yet it's only when he is racist to Mexicans/Latinos in general that things backfire.

There was uproar about Chris Brown and countless articles on it.

Lux23

I don't know why you think physical violence is Ok, there is always controversy when someone is involved in violence.

Samaris

I am inclined to agree that the publicity about Brown was fairly thorough. Actually, I at least know more about that case (and certainly see more references to it) than Hogan's case.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Mayweather and Brown get shat on a hell of a lot to be fair about it.

kneemos

First I heard of the Hulk.

[Deleted User]

MagicMarker wrote: »

Erm, physical violence isn't okay.

Chris Brown beating Rhianna got a hell of a lot more publicity as far as I remember.

Publicity didn't harm anything though. Even during that period he was selling a lot of music and selling gigs. It just feels like if he were white and went on a racist rant, all those gigs would be cancelled.

And I'm not saying physical violence is OK, but just confused as to how racism is worse and leads to stricter punishments.

super_furry

There was more than a slight outcry over Chris Brown. He was a self employed musician though so there wasn't exactly anyone to sack him.

gramar

If I had to choose I'd take being called a thick potato munching paddy over a kick in the goolies any day.

WoollyRedHat

kneemos wrote: »

First I heard of the Hulk.

Well don't make him angry.

smash

Deleted User wrote: »

Publicity didn't harm anything though. Even during that period he was selling a lot of music and selling gigs.

Lets face it though, Hogan is a has been so it's not going to damage his career.

[Deleted User]

kneemos wrote: »

First I heard of the Hulk.

The WWE completely erased him from their brand.

Nodin

Deleted User wrote: »

This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago. .

Also the tape refers to other wrestlers at some point. That's being blocked via a court case at the mo.

Deleted User wrote: »

We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name. .

....you were evidently off-world at the time.

smash

Just to add, the one time I can recall physical violence being brushed under the carpet is the incident with Jeremy Clarkeson. All the fans shouting for him to get his job back etc etc. Then again, he's also racist. I wonder if it would have been different if he'd hit his wife and not a man.

Not a NSA agent

Never heard about Hogan saying anything, heard plenty about Chris Brown though.

Where has anyone said physical violence is ok?

traprunner

Deleted User wrote: »

This is somewhat brought on by the recent destruction of Hulk Hogan's career, following the recent discovery of a clip where he used racist language against guys that were hanging around with his daughter (I believe?) a few years ago.

We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine. I'm sure there are loads of other cases that people can name.

Yet Hogan says the N-word and the world loses its sh*t. Same for Donald Trump. The guy has done countless shady as f*ck things and yet it's only when he is racist to Mexicans/Latinos in general that things backfire.

Do you believe that WWE is real too?

jjC123

The Chris Brown incident attracted huge public outcry. You can't really fire Chris Brown though,he's not strictly employed by an organisation. Some places refused to host his concerts though.

Hulk Hogan was fired the way any organisation would get rid of an employee for bringing that kind of bad publicity. Plus, he's pretty much finished career-wise anyway.

NachoBusiness

The only physical violence that I have seen society not being all that arsed about, was Solange Knowles's attack on Jay-Z (she became a bigger "celebrity" on the back of it if anything) and Kelly Brook's laughing on This Morning when she was tackled about punching two of her exes in the face.

Otherwise though, seems male on female violence gets the condemnation it rightfully deserves.

One eyed Jack

Nodin wrote: »

....you were evidently off-world at the time.

:pac:

I wouldn't have put it quite so bluntly, but yeah, this is pretty much it - different people care (or not) about different issues to different degrees and different standards.

I doubt the same young women that supported Chris Brown and demonised Rihanna even know who Hulk Hogan is ffs!

You really can't compare incomparable things like that as though it's the same group of people supporting one and condemning the other. You're talking about completely different audiences in all those cases.

ancapailldorcha

What planet are these "PC Brigade gone mad" people living on? There was huge outcry once Brown's beating of Rihanna got out.

smash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjUKwoHUyw

rubadub

Deleted User wrote: »

We seem to live in a world where physical violence is OK - Chris Brown beats Rhianna, there is little or no public outcry. Floyd Mayweather beats his partner. Totally fine.

Is this a windup?!

Floyd Mayweather: The star athlete no sponsor will touch

Chris Brown concert loses 4th sponsor

those took no time to find, sure there are plenty more incidents.

I only heard of hogan on some side link, the other 2 were very well reported, with huge outcry.

dodderangler

Let me tell you something BROTHER!

That's all I got

homerjay2005

i think the point is just badly made here but the general statement being made by the OP has merit in it, just not how he says it.

all forms of discrimination, violence should be treated the same - all deplorable and should be stamped out, yet it appears that certain ones get more attention.

all these things should be treated with equal publicity and condemnation and this doenst happen. The Kelly Brook thing is a much better example than Rhianna, if it was the other way around, the mans career would be over.

One eyed Jack

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i think the point is just badly made here but the general statement being made by the OP has merit in it, just not how he says it.

all forms of discrimination, violence should be treated the same - all deplorable and should be stamped out, yet it appears that certain ones get more attention.

all these things should be treated with equal publicity and condemnation and this doenst happen. The Kelly Brook thing is a much better example than Rhianna, if it was the other way around, the mans career would be over.

It's silly idealism to think that everyone in society should think in such a uniform manner. It's completely unrealistic.

As for the nonsense about Kelly Brook, nobody gives a sh1t what Kelly Brook has to say at the best of times, so when she makes yet another dumb, off the cuff remark, well, people don't get outraged simply because she can be easily dismissed as an idiot. Nobody expects that much of her anyway.

Sean Connery on the other hand, his comments about slapping women didn't put the skids on his career, and that's just one example off the top of my head.