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kowtow

Timmaay wrote: »

much of a market for that ha?

Not yet, but I've high hopes for the Chinese Middle classes.

frazzledhome

kowtow wrote: »

Not yet, but I've high hopes for the Chinese Middle classes.

Lol

kowtow

Does anyone here have a small ledge on the cow side of the feed stance?

There was a discussion lately on twitter about this but I'm not sure any conclusion was reached.

rough diagram below illustrates, question is whether to put the red bit in at all. The passage will be auto-scraped and is about 3.5m

because the ground falls from right to left quite sharply anything which gets us down a level is handy enough.

Dawggone

Wheelie bins pressed into service again to haul to crimper...

Mehaffey1

5.05am, meant to be cups on 5am, boys just woke up now after I rang him to bring the cows in, 40minute walk from paddock to parlour too, only hope the tanker isn't coming early this morning. Must be hard to set a few alarms or something, only got in the door at 1am after visiting a friend in Christchurch myself, start of a crappy day with crappy people.

Brown Podzol

kowtow wrote: »

Does anyone here have a small ledge on the cow side of the feed stance?

There was a discussion lately on twitter about this but I'm not sure any conclusion was reached.

rough diagram below illustrates, question is whether to put the red bit in at all. The passage will be auto-scraped and is about 3.5m

because the ground falls from right to left quite sharply anything which gets us down a level is handy enough.

All good imo if you put in the red c. 2/2.5ft. 3.5m scraper is wide and a slightly narrower one would be more stable/secure. The ledge will protect the feeding cows front legs from the scraper. It will also allow you to run the pike along to remove any silage pulled in by the cows, otherwise the scraper will take it away clogging slats. Make it narrow enough to prevent a cow from lying on it. Have both here and would prefer the ledge for the reasons outlined.

atlantic mist

have the ledge in our places well you dont want dung mixing with silage or concentrates that y we wanted a ledge at a different height to our scraper, we left ours a bit low and scraper if full can leave a bit of dung on the ledge, normally only an issue if one of scrapers breaks during the night, which can be a bit annoying, but all the silage they pull in seems to stay on ledge we give it a run of fork every morning saves anything going into tank

considering at the moment putting a bit of a rubber mat down on them as cows stand up on ledge and they do like the soft mat over the concrete

Dawggone

Greengrass1 wrote: »

2.7 kgs of ms. Many of them fresh?

All fresh bar 20/25.

Timmaay

Now that I only have batch feeders in the parlour, I've decided to split the fresh calvers, they are in a paddock beside the parlour, come in last row and get 4kg instead of the 1kg for spring milkers. Its been working very well, only minor downside is having to fetch them just before the last row, but all of them are milking well. Maize is coming in next week, and I've a tidy stack of high dmd surplus bales, when would yas suggest I drive them on proper, ie when will the autumn grass only be not good enough? Some of the cows are fairly milky and knocking out 35l at the sec (which is phenomenal for here, usually the winter ladies are horribly underfed), hard to know should I just keep going as is, or try spice up the diet knowing autumn grass won't cut it with any sort of bad weather etc.

Milked out

Timmaay wrote: »

Now that I only have batch feeders in the parlour, I've decided to split the fresh calvers, they are in a paddock beside the parlour, come in last row and get 4kg instead of the 1kg for spring milkers. Its been working very well, only minor downside is having to fetch them just before the last row, but all of them are milking well. Maize is coming in next week, and I've a tidy stack of high dmd surplus bales, when would yas suggest I drive them on proper, ie when will the autumn grass only be not good enough? Some of the cows are fairly milky and knocking out 35l at the sec (which is phenomenal for here, usually the winter ladies are horribly underfed), hard to know should I just keep going as is, or try spice up the diet knowing autumn grass won't cut it with any sort of bad weather etc.

Just keep the high energy nut and maybe offer them a high quality bale a before evening milking. While u have the grass and conditions are ok they do fine outside

mahoney_j

Timmaay wrote: »

Now that I only have batch feeders in the parlour, I've decided to split the fresh calvers, they are in a paddock beside the parlour, come in last row and get 4kg instead of the 1kg for spring milkers. Its been working very well, only minor downside is having to fetch them just before the last row, but all of them are milking well. Maize is coming in next week, and I've a tidy stack of high dmd surplus bales, when would yas suggest I drive them on proper, ie when will the autumn grass only be not good enough? Some of the cows are fairly milky and knocking out 35l at the sec (which is phenomenal for here, usually the winter ladies are horribly underfed), hard to know should I just keep going as is, or try spice up the diet knowing autumn grass won't cut it with any sort of bad weather etc.

As long as weather stays as it is now belt away as u are now ,once weather changes to cold and wet I'd house fresh ones at nigh and offer them wraps and maize along with 4/5 kg of high energy 18% nut .house them full time from 01 November

Mehaffey1

Think the young kiwi the boss has employed is not all there as you would call it. Since when do you tell me as his 'assistant manager' that he lost his driving license for attempting to do handbrake turns on a gravel covered junction.

Other kiwi worker has been reported as being 'red-eyed, slow and lost' in the parlour this morning. Don't think you need to be Iggy Pop or Kirt Cobain to figure out what's going on to be honest.

Mehaffey1

Think the young kiwi the boss has employed is not all there as you would call it. Since when do you tell me as his 'assistant manager' that he lost his driving license for attempting to do handbrake turns on a gravel covered junction.

Other kiwi worker has been reported as being 'red-eyed, slow and lost' in the parlour this morning. Don't think you need to be Iggy Pop or Kirt Cobain to figure out what's going on to be honest.

Mehaffey1

Think the young kiwi the boss has employed is not all there as you would call it. Since when do you tell me as his 'assistant manager' that he lost his driving license for attempting to do handbrake turns on a gravel covered junction.

Other kiwi worker has been reported as being 'red-eyed, slow and lost' in the parlour this morning. Don't think you need to be Iggy Pop or Kirt Cobain to figure out what's going on to be honest.

WheatenBriar

Board's is crap this past few days
All errors and posts going missing

Anyhow, what do we do with bvd samples now theres no post?

Milked out

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Board's is crap this past few days
All errors and posts going missing

Anyhow, what do we do with bvd samples now theres no post?

Fridge, should hold a bit as I had one sample that fell down the back of fridge didn't notice for a few weeks till I went to sell the calf and no result back for him. Sent off the sample then and they were able to test it anyway

whelan2

rang enfer this moring, sje said store them in fridge , they will be ok there for a few weeks:eek:

kowtow

Milked out wrote: »

Fridge, should hold a bit as I had one sample that fell down the back of fridge didn't notice for a few weeks till I went to sell the calf and no result back for him. Sent off the sample then and they were able to test it anyway

"Dear Sir

We are pleased to confirm that the bit of ham you sent us recently shows no sign of BVD.

It does however show some traces of Mayonnaise"

Yours

Enfer"

Midfield9

whelan2 wrote: »

rang enfer this moring, sje said store them in fridge , they will be ok there for a few weeks:eek:

Ours could spend a week or more on the shelf in the shed and no problem with it.

whelan2

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Board's is crap this past few days
All errors and posts going missing

Anyhow, what do we do with bvd samples now theres no post?

was thinking about this during milking, could the milkman collect them for us? I know lakelands do it. You can post tomorrow http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/you-can-post-letters-again-tomorrow-industrial-action-suspended-for-talks-699257.html

jaymla627

The shottle stock bull we had the last 3 seasons went to the factory today, he killed out at 600kg dead - weight was a giant of a animal, graded R to some going for a leggy holstein

stanflt

jaymla627 wrote: »

The shottle stock bull we had the last 3 seasons went to the factory today, he killed out at 600kg dead - weight was a giant of a animal, graded R to some going for a leggy holstein

How much did you get for him- have a bull ready to go- might get penalised over age

mahoney_j

stanflt wrote: »

How much did you get for him- have a bull ready to go- might get penalised over age

Would u not be better off chance mart Stan ,havnt got to factory with anything in a few years here as I feel unless your a regular customer u get screwed

jaymla627

stanflt wrote: »

How much did you get for him- have a bull ready to go- might get penalised over age

1760 think it works out around 2.90 kg haven't got docket back yet

cute geoge

Milked out wrote: »

Fridge, should hold a bit as I had one sample that fell down the back of fridge didn't notice for a few weeks till I went to sell the calf and no result back for him. Sent off the sample then and they were able to test it anyway

I forgot to post a few samples left in shed for a month last year
I wonder what is the record length of time for forgotten bvd samples and to come back all clear

WheatenBriar

North of half a million glanbia shares traded again today
There'll soon not be a farmer left with any
Price responding, going down down down.

frazzledhome

WheatenBriar wrote: »

North of half a million glanbia shares traded again today
There'll soon not be a farmer left with any
Price responding, going down down down.

What difference does it make who holds them? Must be serious pressure on if farmers are trading that volume. Do you think it's farmers or just investors taking a slice that are selling

WheatenBriar

frazzledhome wrote: »

What difference does it make who holds them? Must be serious pressure on if farmers are trading that volume. Do you think it's farmers or just investors taking a slice that are selling

Well dont farmers, or usen't they, own over two thirds of it and its not made a blind bit of difference I suppose..
Be interesting to see what changes if that goes below 50,the top brasses master plan

pedigree 6

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Well dont farmers, or usen't they, own over two thirds of it and its not made a blind bit of difference I suppose..
Be interesting to see what changes if that goes below 50,the top brasses master plan

As long as it doesn't go the way that Greencore went we'll be ok.:rolleyes: We still own Ballyragget, Wexford and half of Belview or maybe its all of belview and the plc put half of money towards it as a loan?

kowtow

frazzledhome wrote: »

What difference does it make who holds them? Must be serious pressure on if farmers are trading that volume. Do you think it's farmers or just investors taking a slice that are selling

Could always be a hedge fund taking a nice fat short position ...


more likely though... there are serious fall outs in a fair number of larger global commodity players, and a fair amount of rumours over who is next.

Glencore in particular - which is giant enough to pose systemic risks and carries enormous debt - has seen credit conditions deteriorate explosively & has been having a fire sale of assets in an attempt to shore things up. Whether or not that will succeed will depend on how much world markets calm down in the next few weeks.

Not sure how much Glanbia stock is held by investment funds etc. but there would be a fair amount of sector rebalancing going on which could account for a lot of the volume.