Let's get something straight

FreeFallin

I think we need to take a moment to appreciate that 'I seen' and 'I done' should never be used in communication. It's 'I saw' and 'I did'. It's bulls**t how often people make this mistake verbally and in writing.

This is slowly driving me insane! To me it's as ridiculous as saying 'I driven home today' or 'I learned my friend how to swim'.

Letree

You are lucky you have no real problems.

316

Go op

C.K Dexter Haven

I like Tom Petty's music

LeakingLava

FreeFallin wrote: »

I think we need to take a moment to appreciate that 'I seen' and 'I done' should never be used in communication. It's 'I saw' and 'I did'. It's bulls**t how often people make this mistake verbally and in writing.

This is slowly driving me insane! To me it's as ridiculous as saying 'I driven home today' or 'I learned my friend how to swim'.

I think this is a completely different thing to what you are describing OP.

freshpopcorn

The honest truth op is people don't care. If that's all you've to worry about your a lucky man.

NachoBusiness

Oh no you didn't.

Miss Demeanour

FreeFallin wrote: »

I think we need to take a moment to appreciate that 'I seen' and 'I done' should never be used in communication. It's 'I saw' and 'I did'. It's bulls**t how often people make this mistake verbally and in writing.

This is slowly driving me insane! To me it's as ridiculous as saying 'I driven home today' or 'I learned my friend how to swim'.

Ok....I've taken a moment to read your post and I appreciate the fact......
I've also lost a moment of my life that I'll never get back.

That'll learn me not to read.....

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

I think you should get the first ten euro free anyway. Not asking too much FFS. The petrol station has loads of petrol.

heldel00

And the "does be/do be" brigade. Shoot them all I say!

Only yesterday I heard a British television presenter ask the following question "Was you surprised when ...?" Ridiculous for prime time television.

C.K Dexter Haven

Miss Demeanour wrote: »

Ok....I've taken a moment to read your post and I appreciate the fact......
I've also lost a moment of my life that I'll never get back.

That'll learn me not to read.....

don't read this so.

degsie

Hate grammar Nazis

Peregrine

Yeah, I seen her!

Uh, that is to say, I saw her.

Piriz

It is in fact not easy to learn and apply this for various reasons, people don't deliberately use incorrect grammar in most cases, if you have a good command of the language you should be glad and move on to working on other things like your levels of tolerance for others.
*cue Thug Life graphic and accompanying gangster rap tune*

C.K Dexter Haven

degsie wrote: »

Hate grammar Nazis

is that; "Hate-Grammar Nazis".
or
Hate grammar, Nazis!

?

Old Perry

I seen some things in my time, but you done gone took the biscuit. now thats all i gots to say in the matter.

KTR1C

C.K Dexter Haven wrote: »

is that; "Hate-Grammar Nazis".
or
Hate grammar, Nazis!

?

Isn't that "I do be hating grammer Nazis!!"

C.K Dexter Haven

Old Perry wrote: »

I seen some things in my time, but you done gone took the biscuit. now thats all i gots to say in the matter.

biscuit takers are bastards!:(

C.K Dexter Haven

KTR1C wrote: »

"I do be hating grammer Nazis!!"

do you?:eek::eek::eek:

ruby37

The one that totally annoys me is when people use the word "of" instead of "have" eg.: "I should of went to the shop" instead of "I should have went to the shop".

kingchess

I do be feelin youre pain as their is such a lack of basic grammar from some people.Youre post will learn them.(please feel free to correct any mistake I may "ave made)

FreeFallin

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Oh no you didn't.

No interest in being a grammar nazi here, and no intention of highlighting errors people with learning difficulties make. I'm highlighting that what seems like a sizable chunk of the population don't think it looks and sounds wrong to use these terms.

Hidalgo

degsie wrote: »

Hate grammar Nazis

There their they're

Right Turn Clyde

FreeFallin wrote: »

I think we need to take a moment to appreciate that 'I seen' and 'I done' should never be used in communication. It's 'I saw' and 'I did'. It's bulls**t how often people make this mistake verbally and in writing.

This is slowly driving me insane! To me it's as ridiculous as saying 'I driven home today' or 'I learned my friend how to swim'.

The only thing I want from people is that they make themselves understood. In fact, it's the responsibility of each person to ensure that they're understood. Other than that I'm quite happy to accept that language evolves through usage.

When intelligibility breaks down then you'd have a genuine problem. But it's clear that you understand what people are actually saying. You're just not happy with colloquialisms. And in that case my advice would be to just suck it up and get used to it.

Edit: Actually, I think this is an example of local vernacular, rather than a colloquialism.

Old Perry

C.K Dexter Haven wrote: »

biscuit takers are bastards!:(

Now now dexter, we know not when the biscuit was taken nor when the marraige was consumated.

K4t

ruby37 wrote: »

The one that totally annoys me is when people use the word "of" instead of "have" eg.: "I should of went to the shop" instead of "I should have went to the shop".

I think that may be a case of mispronunciation due to speaking quickly - obviously no excuse when written.

NachoBusiness

FreeFallin wrote: »

No interest in being a grammar nazi here, and no intention of highlighting errors people with learning difficulties make. I'm highlighting that what seems like a sizable chunk of the population don't think it looks and sounds wrong to use these terms.

Sorry, I seen your post and took it personal. Apologies.

Eugene Norman

there's a Dublin business which uses "seen" instead of "saw" in its literature.

It seems to becoming more widespread.

K4t

Right Turn Clyde wrote: »

The only thing I want from people is that they make themselves understood. In fact, it's the responsibility of each person to ensure that they're understood. Other than that I'm quite happy to accept that language evolves through usage. You're just not happy with colloquialisms. .

They're not colloquialisms, it's bad grammar plain and simple. I can say to you "I go toilet now" or "I has a cold" and you'll understand what I mean, but the fact is it will still sound silly when I say it.

dxhound2005

FreeFallin wrote: »

I think we need to take a moment to appreciate that 'I seen' and 'I done' should never be used in communication. It's 'I saw' and 'I did'. It's bulls**t how often people make this mistake verbally and in writing.

This is slowly driving me insane! To me it's as ridiculous as saying 'I driven home today' or 'I learned my friend how to swim'.

I think you need to take a moment to consult the dictionary before condemning all and sundry. The verb to learn can mean to teach. So there.

Learn
(lɜːn)
vb, learns, learning, learned (lɜːnd) or learnt
1. (when tr, may take a clause as object) to gain knowledge of (something) or acquire skill in (some art or practice)

2. (tr) to commit to memory

3. (tr) to gain by experience, example, etc

4. (intr; often foll by of or about) to become informed; know

5. to teach

Two Sheds

FreeFallin wrote: »

I think we need to take a moment to appreciate that 'I seen' and 'I done' should never be used in communication. It's 'I saw' and 'I did'. It's bulls**t how often people make this mistake verbally and in writing.

This is slowly driving me insane! To me it's as ridiculous as saying 'I driven home today' or 'I learned my friend how to swim'.

Here, here!

FreeFallin

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Sorry, I seen your post and took it personal. Apologies.

Ah no, sure there's nothing wrong with your link at all. I'm surprised more than anything about how many people use the terms. Perhaps, like some of the other posters noted, it's how the language is evolving!

K4t

Eugene Norman wrote: »

theres a Dublin business which used seen instead of saw in its literature.

It seems to becoming more widespread.

I saw the word asstetic used to describe the exterior of a car in a brochure recently.

Old Perry

I find the english ghetto speak usage of the word 'what' quite interesting, its used similar to the aforementioned 'of and have' except in this case 'that' is replaced with 'what'.. like russell brand was a bollix for using it that way, eg. 'him what said this last week'. its funny cause 'of and have' could simply be mispronunciation, but what and that are quite different.

Piriz

K4t wrote: »

They're not colloquialisms, it's bad grammar plain and simple. I can say to you "I go toilet now" or "I has a cold" and you'll understand what I mean, but the fact is it will still sound silly when I say it.

Your missing the point. I seen and i done are used and heard so often that it does not sound silly to many people, they dont understand the grammar rule, do u feel the same outrage if a person makes an arithmetic error, or wears colours that clash? You just come accross as intolerant and probably judgemental

Anesthetize

FreeFallin wrote: »

I think we need to take a moment to appreciate that 'I seen' and 'I done' should never be used in communication. It's 'I saw' and 'I did'. It's bulls**t how often people make this mistake verbally and in writing.

This is slowly driving me insane! To me it's as ridiculous as saying 'I driven home today' or 'I learned my friend how to swim'.

Actually it's I've seen and I've done

justchecked

FreeFallin wrote: »

I think we need to take a moment to appreciate that 'I seen' and 'I done' should never be used in communication. It's 'I saw' and 'I did'. It's bulls**t how often people make this mistake verbally and in writing.

This is slowly driving me insane! To me it's as ridiculous as saying 'I driven home today' or 'I learned my friend how to swim'.

I shall join your quest.
Yes I admit, my grammar is far from perfect.
However, this sht has gone on too long, along with those fcks who don't know whether to say they're, their, or there.

Anyway, I digress, this 'seen' thing has to stop, along with that yisser thing.

How would these fckers feel if someone said 'I sawed' this or 'I sawed' that ?

I imagine they'd correct you and tell you the correct English is 'I seen' whereupon one might kick them right in the fcking balls and say no, fcker, no, its not seen, read a fcking book some time you ignorant, come here you fck (at this point a book could be taken from the family room library).

Find me one fcking sentence with 'I seen' one sentence motherfcker, now read (at this point one removes ones belt and begins to whip the grammatically challenged and injured party), read motherfcker (whip) (whip), find me that sentence ni**er ! (whip)

Find it for me or Im gonna whoop you some more. At this point the guilty party (who we shall name Anthony) is crying and pleading for one to cease the incessant whipping, ones belt spattered with blood, the chaise-longe stained with spilled Merlot, the fine crystal glass set smashed to pieces on the stained oak-wood floor. The glazed tranche brioche du canard spoiled, the damage done, the lesson learned.

Then I piss on him.

K4t

Piriz wrote: »

Your missing the point. I seen and i done are used and heard so often that it does not sound silly to many people, they dont understand the grammar rule, do u feel the same outrage if a person makes an arithmetic error, or wears colours that clash? You just come accross as intolerant and probably judgemental

I'm obviously missing some point. Are they used that often? I've lived in the west of Ireland my whole life and while we wouldn't be best known for our linguistic skills, I seldom here "I seen" and "I done", so much so that it's noticeable when I do. Where have I shown outrage? If someone makes an arithmetic error, then it's an error. If someone uses bad grammar, it's bad grammar. I'm not sure how acknowledging bad grammar is a sign of intolerance, no more than acknowledging that 2+2 is not equal to 5 - obviously people are free to use bad grammar and say 2+2=5, but I'm damned if I'm going to sit there and think they're correct in what they're saying and that it's simply a case of things evolving. I think you're missing the point.

JacquesSon

'nall'in'nanyways

Did I spell that wrong?

dxhound2005

justchecked wrote: »

I shall join your quest.
Yes I admit, my grammar is far from perfect.
However, this sht has gone on too long, along with those fcks who don't know whether to say they're, their, or there.

Anyway, I digress, this 'seen' thing has to stop, along with that yisser thing.

How would these fckers feel if someone said 'I sawed' this or 'I sawed' that ?

I imagine they'd correct you and tell you the correct English is 'I seen' whereupon one might kick them right in the fcking balls and say no, fcker, no, its not seen, read a fcking book some time you ignorant, come here you fck (at this point a book could be taken from the family room library).

Find me one fcking sentence with 'I seen' one sentence motherfcker, now read (at this point one removes ones belt and begins to whip the grammatically challenged and injured party), read motherfcker (whip) (whip), find me that sentence ni**er ! (whip)

Find it for me or Im gonna whoop you some more. At this point the guilty party (who we shall name Anthony) is crying and pleading for one to cease the incessant whipping, ones belt spattered with blood, the chaise-longe stained with spilled Merlot, the fine crystal glass set smashed to pieces on the stained oak-wood floor. The glazed tranche brioche du canard spoiled, the damage done, the lesson learned.

Then I piss on him.

There's no need to make such a seen.

kippy

I used to be like you OP, really I did. Then I hit my thirties, got married and had a family. Oh to be like you again and worry about such small issues.

Eugene Norman

There's a fair amount of defensiveness here. I wonder if "I seen" we're culchie rather than dub would it raise more angst.

What's annoying me more is Americans saying, "on accident".

Eugene Norman

Anesthetize wrote: »

Actually it's I've seen and I've done

No. People are using I seen to replace I saw. Simple past not present perfect.

Gooners

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's annoying me more is Americans saying, "on accident".

Most annoying thing of all is the way young ones speak with a question mark at the end of every sentence.

Eugene Norman

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I think you need to take a moment to consult the dictionary before condemning all and sundry. The verb to learn can mean to teach. So there.

Learn
(lɜːn)
vb, learns, learning, learned (lɜːnd) or learnt
1. (when tr, may take a clause as object) to gain knowledge of (something) or acquire skill in (some art or practice)

2. (tr) to commit to memory

3. (tr) to gain by experience, example, etc

4. (intr; often foll by of or about) to become informed; know

5. to teach

6. Number 5 is bollocks. So I have no link.

dxhound2005

Eugene Norman wrote: »

There's a fair amount of defensiveness here. I wonder if "I seen" we're culchie rather than dub would it raise more angst.

It's all round Ireland and all round the English speaking world.

I don't understand your usage of we're there.

dxhound2005

Eugene Norman wrote: »

6. Number 5 is bollocks. So I have no link.

Have you a dictionary?

Billy86

I don't mind people with bad grammar; what I can't stand, is people with awful grammar holding other people's good grammar against them. Doesn't happen all too often but it's baffling to see/hear!

Eugene Norman

dxhound2005 wrote: »

It's all round Ireland and all round the English speaking world.

I don't understand your usage of we're there.

Neither do I but it was auto correct. Absolutely no culture outside north side Dublin uses I seen.

Don't confuse it with I've seen which can be correct.

Eugene Norman

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Have you a dictionary?

Have you a link to yours?