TV3 HD Testing

Charles Slane

Testing on 11.758 H, 29.500, 3/4, DVB-S2, QPSK (3881)

Now carrying EPG data for 'TV3 HD'. Picture is not what's on TV3 currently. No audio as yet.

jimbo2007

Charles Slane wrote: »

Testing on 11.758 H, 29.500, 3/4, DVB-S2, QPSK (3881)

Now carrying EPG data for 'TV3 HD'. Picture is not what's on TV3 currently. No audio as yet.

Keep an eye on it. Thanks for the info.

lgs 4

Charles Slane wrote: »

Testing on 11.758 H, 29.500, 3/4, DVB-S2, QPSK (3881)

Now carrying EPG data for 'TV3 HD'. Picture is not what's on TV3 currently. No audio as yet.

Bleeding sky again subsidizing HD channels :mad:

Red Silurian

Charles Slane wrote: »

Testing on 11.758 H, 29.500, 3/4, DVB-S2, QPSK (3881)

Now carrying EPG data for 'TV3 HD'. Picture is not what's on TV3 currently. No audio as yet.

Free to air or sky sub needed?

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

colmtheperson wrote: »

Free to air or sky sub needed?

At the moment it's showing Sky Premiere HD so you will need a HD sub but once it switches to TV3HD you may be able to watch it without a HD sub. As TV3 receive funding from the BAI and holds PSB status it would be outrageous if it was put behind a HD pay wall.

ftakeith

natashaob6 wrote: »

At the moment it's showing Sky Premiere HD so you will need a HD sub but once it switches to TV3HD you may be able to watch it without a HD sub. As TV3 receive funding from the BAI and holds PSB status it would be outrageous if it was put behind a HD pay wall.

TV3hd on sky should appear around 19th aug for the new season of uefa champions league live football or the 13th Aug 2015 for the exclusive uefa super cup game

Rizzo the Rat

This is for the Rugby World Cup in Sept which TV3 have the rights for in Ireland. They said they hoped to have TV3 HD up and running for it. TV3/3e have lost the Europa League coverage.

irishchris

natashaob6 wrote: »

At the moment it's showing Sky Premiere HD so you will need a HD sub but once it switches to TV3HD you may be able to watch it without a HD sub. As TV3 receive funding from the BAI and holds PSB status it would be outrageous if it was put behind a HD pay wall.

Rte is a psb but has been behind a pay wall for years??

MBSnr

irishchris wrote: »

Rte is a psb but has been behind a pay wall for years??

Not quite what he means I believe. RTE2 HD is 'free' as a basic Sky sub will allow you to view it. Hopefully TV3 HD is the same and will not require a Sky HD sub to view it....

jimbo2007

Thanks. Please let us know when TV3 actually appears on this "3881" channel.

Joo0

Any news on saorview?

galtee boy

Joo0 wrote: »

Any news on saorview?

TV3 in HD on Saorview ? Snowballs chance in hell !

total former

natashaob6 wrote: »

At the moment it's showing Sky Premiere HD so you will need a HD sub but once it switches to TV3HD you may be able to watch it without a HD sub. As TV3 receive funding from the BAI and holds PSB status it would be outrageous if it was put behind a HD pay wall.

Public service obligations don't extend to HD channels though. It's surely between TV3 and Sky how it gets distributed.

tomslick

Looks like it is on "normal" HD encription, meaning it won't open on non-skyHD boxes

icdg

Which cannot output a HD signal anyway?

tomslick

icdg wrote: »

Which cannot output a HD signal anyway?

I meant non-sky boxes ie VU's which use valid HD subs but won't decrypt the HD channel. Unlike "un-normal" Sky HD encryption used by RTE HD and the BT sports.

irishgeo

tomslick wrote: »

I meant non-sky boxes ie VU's which use valid HD subs but won't decrypt the HD channel. Unlike "un-normal" Sky HD encryption used by RTE HD and the BT sports.

very dodgy ground there.

lertsnim

irishgeo wrote: »

very dodgy ground there.

It's not dodgy if you are using a valid subscription. Not everybody with a VU+ is a pirate.

irishgeo

lertsnim wrote: »

It's not dodgy if you are using a valid subscription. Not everybody with a VU+ is a pirate.

your breaking the terms of your sky contract regardless.

mainly.

5. The Viewing Card
(a) The Viewing Card acts as a key so that you can unlock (unencrypt) encrypted digital satellite services (such as
the Service). Having a Viewing Card does not mean you have a right to receive the Service. You are only entitled to
one Viewing Card per Sky digital Subscription.
(b) SSSL continues to own the Viewing Card after it is sent to you and, if SSSL asks you to, you must return it after
this Contract ends or when a replacement is sent to you.
(c) Only you may use the Viewing Card which SSSL sends you. You can only use the Viewing Card at your Address
with the Box for which it is first authorised by SSSL to receive encrypted digital satellite services. You must
only use it for private viewing purposes. You must not use it for any commercial or business purpose or in any
premises other than your Address.
(d) The Viewing Card must not be used outside the country (either UK or Republic of

lertsnim

Hardly the dodgy area you were hinting at.

irishgeo

lertsnim wrote: »

Hardly the dodgy area you were hinting at.

nope but the talk of either way is banned here.

lgs 4

Bleeding sky again subsidizing HD channels

galtee boy

lgs 4 wrote: »

Bleeding sky again subsidizing HD channels

Sky is a business. If, as we suspect, that they are providing a HD service for TV3 at little or no cost to TV3, then they are perfectly entitled to make sure that only Sky HD subscribers can access the channel. He who pays the piper, calls the tune ! What TV3 should be doing in addition, is providing this HD service on Saorview too, but they won't pay 2RN.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

galtee boy wrote: »

Sky is a business. If, as we suspect, that they are providing a HD service for TV3 at little or no cost to TV3, then they are perfectly entitled to make sure that only Sky HD subscribers can access the channel. He who pays the piper, calls the tune ! What TV3 should be doing in addition, is providing this HD service on Saorview too, but they won't pay 2RN.

With Liberty Global more or less the new owners of TV3 maybe they will have a more positive attitude towards Saorview and launch TV3 HD on the platform.

irishfeen

TV3 will be in trouble with BAI funded programming if the broadcast it in SD or HD behind the paywall. RTÉ tried it with RTÉ2HD initially but complaints to the BAI revesed the decision ... I think it might take official complaints this time round too.

murpho999

With UPC owning TV3 now is it not likely it will be available on their platform first for a while as they try to woo customers over?

mikeym

murpho999 wrote: »

With UPC owning TV3 now is it not likely it will be available on their platform first for a while as they try to woo customers over?

Not everybody has access to UPC cable.

Sam Russell

I do not think TV3 HD is any more attractive than TV3 SD. I do not seeing its availability in HD affecting their subscription decisions in anyway.

In analogue days, TV3 did not even make their signal available to 20% of the population, so what is new?

lertsnim

murpho999 wrote: »

With UPC owning TV3 now is it not likely it will be available on their platform first for a while as they try to woo customers over?

If it had decent content that might work.

dr.fuzzenstein

Sam Russell wrote: »

I do not think TV3 HD is any more attractive than TV3 SD. I do not seeing its availability in HD affecting their subscription decisions in anyway.

In analogue days, TV3 did not even make their signal available to 20% of the population, so what is new?

It's a choice of watching utter crap in SD or HD. I'm afraid it won't look better either way. I have Freesat and Saeorview, sometimes I go to the Irish channels on a Friday or Saturday night. Once I filled three buckets with vomit, I go back to UK telly.

icdg

murpho999 wrote: »

With UPC owning TV3 now is it not likely it will be available on their platform first for a while as they try to woo customers over?

They don't own them yet and the plans for TV3 HD were in place before the deal was done.

AndyBoBandy

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

It's a choice of watching utter crap in SD or HD. I'm afraid it won't look better either way. I have Freesat and Saeorview, sometimes I go to the Irish channels on a Friday or Saturday night. Once I filled three buckets with vomit, I go back to UK telly.

The reason so many are interested in TV3 in HD is because they beat out RTÉ to the RWC coverage this autumn.

dr.fuzzenstein

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

The reason so many are interested in TV3 in HD is because they beat out RTÉ to the RWC coverage this autumn.

Ah, of course, not following sports I would have missed that. To me the question "should I watch a bit of TV3" is about the same as "should I take a hammer and bash it into my own head for half an hour". :P

AndyBoBandy

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Ah, of course, not following sports I would have missed that. To me the question "should I watch a bit of TV3" is about the same as "should I take a hammer and bash it into my own head for half an hour". :P

The last time I would have watched TV3 would of been the last rugby World Cup they had in 2007 - which was a bloody disaster from an Irish point of view.

I too would otherwise not want to watch TV3. Ever.

dulpit

Be interesting to see what quality HD TV3 will broadcast on. I find their regular SD broadcasts to be noticeably lower quality to other SD channels on Sky, I'm a little worried about the RWC at this stage...

irishfeen

dulpit wrote: »

Be interesting to see what quality HD TV3 will broadcast on. I find their regular SD broadcasts to be noticeably lower quality to other SD channels on Sky, I'm a little worried about the RWC at this stage...

ITV1 HD is available to everyone with a sky/FTA box and ITV4 HD for those with a HD subscription... that's where i'll be going anyway if its not up to scratch.

dulpit

irishfeen wrote: »

ITV1 HD is available to everyone with a sky/FTA box and ITV4 HD for those with a HD subscription... that's where i'll be going anyway if its not up to scratch.

True enough, but I still prefer watching Irish coverage of the Irish team...

irishfeen

dulpit wrote: »

True enough, but I still prefer watching Irish coverage of the Irish team...

Ball is in TV3's court, if its below par people will just go to ITV.

Chris_Bradley

So I imagine the extra layer of encryption will be on this channel unlike RTE, Setanta & BT HD channels?

irishfeen

Chris_Bradley wrote: »

So I imagine the extra layer of encryption will be on this channel unlike RTE, Setanta & BT HD channels?

We have no idea, the testing channel is now not clearing with a HD sub either so we will have to wait and see what encryption system they use and whether it will be part of the "Sky HD Pack".

Chris_Bradley

irishfeen wrote: »

We have no idea, the testing channel is now not clearing with a HD sub either so we will have to wait and see what encryption system they use and whether it will be part of the "Sky HD Pack".

Thanks, Have a feeling it will be just like UTV Ire HD & only available on Sky HD Boxes.

MBSnr

Chris_Bradley wrote: »

Thanks, Have a feeling it will be just like UTV Ire HD & only available on Sky HD Boxes.

The whole HD thing on the Sky EPG for us is a bit of a mess (especially for those without the HD sub).

No RTE1 HD
BBC 2 HD @ 143 and BBC 1 HD @ 215 (without the HD sub) - being the most major annoyances.

Why can't they do as per RTE2 HD (HD on 102 if using HD box) and change the BBC HD channels to be 141/142 if the box is HD....(surely the % of HD boxes must be very high now?). Why also include RTE2 SD @ 115 at all for the HD box any more either? How many people watch that instead of 102...? It's handy if your HDD is out of space but most HD boxes now would take some filling.

I can only imagine they have to continue that as some sort of PSB commitment...

Chris_Bradley

MBSnr wrote: »

The whole HD thing on the Sky EPG for us is a bit of a mess (especially for those without the HD sub).

No RTE1 HD
BBC 2 HD @ 143 and BBC 1 HD @ 215 (without the HD sub) - being the most major annoyances.

Why can't they do as per RTE2 HD (HD on 102 if using HD box) and change the BBC HD channels to be 141/142 if the box is HD....(surely the % of HD boxes must be very high now?). Why also include RTE2 SD @ 115 at all for the HD box any more either? How many people watch that instead of 102...? It's handy if your HDD is out of space but most HD boxes now would take some filling.

I can only imagine they have to continue that as some sort of PSB commitment...

Glad I don't & won't ever use a sky box so.

dubmick

Have TV3 said what date they will launch the HD channel?

irishfeen

dubmick wrote: »

Have TV3 said what date they will launch the HD channel?

I think they are just giving the generic "August" answer - Irish HD card now not clearing the test channel (3881) for the last few days... behind encryption they could very well be continuing with testing and uplinking.

total former

dubmick wrote: »

Have TV3 said what date they will launch the HD channel?

They have to have it in place for the rugby world cup so mid-September at the latest

Mickey Mike

galtee boy wrote: »

TV3 in HD on Saorview ? Snowballs chance in hell !

No TV 3 HD on saorview, what a disgrace, why are they doing this. If they don't go he on saorview then they can shove it up there arse.
This is not the first time I complained about this, just sick of the whole thing.

Dave..M

Mickie Mike wrote: »

No TV 3 HD on saorview, what a disgrace, why are they doing this. If they don't go he on saorview then they can shove it up there arse.
This is not the first time I complained about this, just sick of the whole thing.

Unfortunately they were never going to pay the carriage fees and have no obligation to. All games on ITV HD anyway and quality will probably be better.

MBSnr

Dave..M wrote: »

All games on ITV HD anyway and quality will probably be better.

Picture for sure.... but not the commentary!! Alright Andy Townsend....:D Although he's left ITV now hasn't he..?

Dave..M

MBSnr wrote: »

Picture for sure.... but not the commentary!! Alright Andy Townsend....:D Although he's left ITV now hasn't he..?

Andy Townsend commentating on the rugby, classic stuff there!

I have the radio via my av receiver so am covered but agreed issue for others, would still take ITV HD commentary over the blurry mush that will be TV3 SD!!!

corm500

No TV3 HD without paying for it???
Ever get the feeling this broadcaster really wants to fail?