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Minions creator on why there are no female minions

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    kneemos wrote: »
    Miss Piggy used to bate Kermit.
    Was the there a word ever said?
    Was there hell.

    brilliant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,245 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Candie wrote: »
    Doing is learning.



    Side step .


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kneemos wrote: »
    Side step .

    Don't be daft. Unless you're implying that people think you have to be especially intelligent to mop a floor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    Candie wrote: »
    Those ads actually insult both genders, in portraying men as inept at household chores, and as those chores as something best left to women, who are apparently born knowing how to clean up.

    That's not true. They don't portray those chores as "best left" to women.
    Women, in the main, buy those products and that is why those ads are aimed at them.
    Which is also why ads for drills and the like are aimed at men.
    It's not because advertisement companies think drilling is best left to men.


  • Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Italians have also been depicted as criminal pigeons in Animaniacs.
    You saying I'm sticky? You think I'm some gooey, sticky bun here for your breakfast enjoyment? Is that what you're saying?

    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,279 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It's a bit true about the cleaning ads though. Some would have you believe that a woman's point of view is in fact the kitchen window.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    OP is correct, had the comment been reversed there would be holy hell on the internet and it would probably result in boycotts and protests and the usual diatribe of feminism gone wild.

    Truth is, men don't care, some women care way too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    FortySeven wrote: »
    OP is correct, had the comment been reversed there would be holy hell on the internet and it would probably result in boycotts and protests and the usual diatribe of feminism gone wild.

    Truth is, men don't care, some women care way too much.
    Well that's clearly a lie seeing as men on this very thread have shown they care.
    But I agree with them: the equivalent would not be said about women.

    These stupid digs at men - why do some idiots think it's a good idea. It's like they want to start a gender war.


  • Site Banned Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Youngblood.III


    cloud493 wrote: »
    Them little yellow yokes from the kids films.

    http://i.stack.imgur.com/8sNfT.jpg

    A bald baby with jaundice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    Well that's clearly a lie seeing as men on this very thread have shown they care.
    But I agree with them: the equivalent would not be said about women.

    These stupid digs at men - why do some idiots think it's a good idea. It's like they want to start a gender war.

    I don't think men do actually care, what we get upset about is the listening to the feminists when the shoe is on the other foot.

    It's pointing out the difference, not taking offence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,279 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    eviltwin wrote: »
    The minions aren't really stupid though.

    hmm debatable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭edgecutter


    So Minions can't produce sexually apparently. We don't know why, it's not very realistic but anyway the creator has a curious reason as to why there are no female minions.

    This is on the BBC



    I don't think he would get a way with saying that the other way around against women.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ3Pd9jVEAAnsVO.png

    So why is it ok to say that about boys/men? Gender equality anyone?

    We all need to be offended about something on the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    cloud493 wrote: »
    Them little yellow yokes from the kids films.

    http://i.stack.imgur.com/8sNfT.jpg

    Isn't that Chris Evans wearing a pair of James May's trousers??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Good grief.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Minions.

    Not that funny in 2014.

    Worse now that the idea has been flogged to death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    These stupid digs at men - why do some idiots think it's a good idea. It's like they want to start a gender war.

    Because there is an enormous apatite out there for it. Men get patted on the back by society and seen as being progressive when they put down other men (or themselves) and big up women instead. There'll be no consequence for this guy saying this. Nobody will really care and those that do care, will just be seen as whinging. It's going on a long time now and I see no signs of it stopping, if anything, I only see it increasing.

    Was at the Ant Man premiere the other night, a good portion of the crowd were 8-12 year olds (as you'd expect) and 15 mins in there was a scene where the female lead is showing Ant Man (Paul Rudd) how to box and so asks him to punch her gloved hand. He does so, but not to her liking and so she punches him right in the face. Now I know it's a comedy but would it be funny of Paul punched her in the face? Of course not. The audience would gasp in shock.

    Wouldn't mind of it was 15 cert or something, or even if maybe it was someone Arnold Schwarzenegger's size, then you rationalize to a kid why it's funny, but Paul Rudd is a small enough guy. Another kids film last year I seen had Nicole Kidman motioning that she was going to chop a guy's balls off as she had him hanging upside down, that Paddington Bear film. What I'm trying to say here is, that this a message constantly being sent out that boys and men are dumb and to be violent towards them is funny.

    There is just so many mixed messages being sent today regarding equality. I would suggest, dishonest messages in fact. Take the likes of Amy Schumer. She talks about gender equality but yet imagine a guy making this exact speech about a girl he slept with at college and how what do you think society would react to it. Same with Meryl Streep. Everyone seen her visible support for the equality in Hollywood with regards to pay at the Oscars and she of course is celebrated feminist who regularly speaks out against sexism, but yet how does she speak when she's alone in a room full of like minded femenists?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Clearly there's no female minions because women just aren't funny. The creator obviously had a face palm moment at another PC brigade offence and he used the get out of jail free card that every male with a shred of intelligence uses.

    We know that self deprecation of our own sex is the only answer women accept. It makes them happy and think they're right about stuff leaving us men in peace to get on with more important matters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Clearly there's no female minions because women just aren't funny. The creator obviously had a face palm moment at another PC brigade offence and he used the get out of jail free card that every male with a shred of intelligence uses.

    We know that self deprecation of our own sex is the only answer women accept. It makes them happy and think they're right about stuff leaving us men in peace to get on with more important matters.

    Calm down dear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Are we offended by American crap once again? There's an Irish animated movie, one well regarded, in cinemas at the moment. Watch that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    So Minions can't produce sexually apparently. We don't know why, it's not very realistic but anyway the creator has a curious reason as to why there are no female minions.

    This is on the BBC



    I don't think he would get a way with saying that the other way around against women.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ3Pd9jVEAAnsVO.png

    So why is it ok to say that about boys/men? Gender equality anyone?
    I guess its not okay. But I'd bet my bottom dollar you're not even slightly offended by it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,279 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I guess its not okay. But I'd bet my bottom dollar you're not even slightly offended by it

    Not at all. I'm simply asking a question.


    And I wonder about the personal jibes at me in this thread, and a mod should look at that, but what is your beef? Just say it. Don't act the eejit or pretend that no one notices. It is a fundamental rule here not to attack a poster - rather the post. But some stuff here suggests some have a grudge. What is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Not at all. I'm simply asking a question.


    And I wonder about the personal jibes at me in this thread, and a mod should look at that, but what is your beef? Just say it. Don't act the eejit or pretend that no one notices. It is a fundamental rule here not to attack a poster - rather the post. But some stuff here suggests some have a grudge. What is it?

    How was I personally attacking you?? I didnt mean to offend you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,279 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    wakka12 wrote: »
    How was I personally attacking you?? I didnt mean to offend you

    No problem. Talking about others. I appreciate what you say, i'm just fed up with constant personal snipes which the mods miss. Not saying your post was that - it clearly wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭eet fuk


    OP is as bad as the "feminists" he/she is giving out about. Is that irony?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,279 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    eet fuk wrote: »
    OP is as bad as the "feminists" he/she is giving out about. Is that irony?

    I'm not giving out as I have explained. I asked a question in the OP. That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭eet fuk


    I'm not giving out as I have explained. I asked a question in the OP. That is all.

    Okie dokie. Well you know full well that it would go down poorly if the gender roles were reversed. Everybody does. The key thing is that the people who would be creating the uproar are the same people who probably want Manchester to be renamed Personchester.
    I have no doubt that you could find a million similar examples where a gender role reversal would cause havoc amongst a select few noisy groups, yet the world keeps turning and we carry on.
    So I ask you - why ask a question that you seem to know the answer to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,279 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    eet fuk wrote: »
    So I ask you - why ask a question that you seem to know the answer to?

    Why not? I may know the answer. This is AH. It's for stuff like this? No? Why are some taking so seriously what is obviously a jovial thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    OP isn't technically wrong, the statement is about as outrage worthy as Matt Taylor's shirt, which got plenty of outrage! However the fact that many posters are telling the OP to stop being so silly is a) the correct response, b) I suspect the point the OP may have being looking to make and c) a useful test run for when folks start indulging asshats who whine about shirts or deliberately use a quote by a famous scientist out of context to generate outrage and publicity for themselves at the cost of someone elses career or reputation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    In short:
    • Creator of Minions makes them male as it scored better with test audiences.
    • This is noted by the ever vigilant guardians of women's equality and how this is another example of how women are underrepresented in Hollywood, Politics, Business, etc.
    • Creator of Minions does a quick PR damage limitation exercise by arguing that Minions are not female by denigrating men.
    • Ever vigilant guardians of women's equality are content that they are not represented in a disparaging category and Creator of Minions goes back on receiving large royalty cheques for his franchise.
    In practical terms, that's what has happened.

    That he has the option to use this approach in his quick PR damage limitation exercise is because there's no real ever vigilant guardians of men's equality and it has become politically acceptable to do this publicly, otherwise he would have had to use another approach.

    That the OP posed his rhetorical question is because most people sleepwalk through life not noticing these sort of hypocrisies. More it's brought to people's attention, the more it will get questioned and eventually it'll stop being an option to people like the creator of Minions, to protect his franchise.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes, but the women in those ads aren't portrayed as being dumb. Women and just in them as in the main, the products they are selling are purchased by women.
    It's "you go girl" marketing. If anything a lot of adverts would look like the advertisers think women as a gender are as thick as bottled piggy poo. Photoshopped 16 year old girls advertising anti wrinkle cream, models and starlets with hair extensions advertising hair dye and the like. It also seems some women digest food in their handbags and menstruate blue blood. Maybe the queen of England did back in the day.
    tritium wrote: »
    OP isn't technically wrong, the statement is about as outrage worthy as Matt Taylor's shirt, which got plenty of outrage! However the fact that many posters are telling the OP to stop being so silly is a) the correct response, b) I suspect the point the OP may have being looking to make and c) a useful test run for when folks start indulging asshats who whine about shirts or deliberately use a quote by a famous scientist out of context to generate outrage and publicity for themselves at the cost of someone elses career or reputation.
    +1000.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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