Minions creator on why there are no female minions

Kermit.de.frog

So Minions can't produce sexually apparently. We don't know why, it's not very realistic but anyway the creator has a curious reason as to why there are no female minions.

This is on the BBC

Minions are all male because their creator believed they were too stupid to be female.

I don't think he would get a way with saying that the other way around against women.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ3Pd9jVEAAnsVO.png

So why is it ok to say that about boys/men? Gender equality anyone?

libelula

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So why is it ok to say that about boys/men?

It's not ok.

Banjo String

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So Minions can't produce sexually apparently. We don't know why, it's not very realistic but anyway the creator has a curious reason as to why there are no female minions.

This is on the BBC



I don't think he would get a way with saying that the other way around against women.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ3Pd9jVEAAnsVO.png

So why is it ok to say that about boys/men? Gender equality anyone?

He's not saying it about men/women, boys/girls.

He's saying it about minions. A made up species in a cartoon.

NIMAN

What are minions?

cloud493

NIMAN wrote: »

What are minions?

Them little yellow yokes from the kids films.

http://i.stack.imgur.com/8sNfT.jpg

NachoBusiness

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So why is it ok to say that about boys/men? Gender equality anyone?

Cause girls are made of sugar and spice and all things nice.

Do you have any idea what boys are made from? Do ya?

It's not good.

Tony Beetroot

Minions aren't real op, ok.

Talib Fiasco

Caitlyn Jenner likes this

Guy:Incognito

Banjo String wrote: »

He's not saying it about men/women, boys/girls.

He's saying it about minions. A made up species in a cartoon.

It wouldnt be just let go like that and you know full well.

What about little black fictional cartoon characters that are too stupid to be white? All good too?

Frigating

I haven't seen the films, but it doesn't see like there's that much masculine about them. Apart from the names (Dave, etc.) they could all be of no gender. Is anyone checking inside their overalls?

DEFTLEFTHAND

cloud493 wrote: »

Them little yellow yokes from the kids films.

http://i.stack.imgur.com/8sNfT.jpg

Lovely little things.

ElvisChrist6

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

It wouldnt be just let go like that and you know full well.

What about little black fictional cartoon characters that are too stupid to be white? All good too?

Honestly, I think it's a good thing men don't really care all that much about stuff like this. It's not a big deal and most of us don't care. Instead of getting people to be offended by more things, more things should be seen as silliness that doesn't necessitate thinking too much about.

NIMAN

Who is Caitlyn Jenner?

Banjo String

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

It wouldnt be just let go like that and you know full well.

What about little black fictional cartoon characters that are too stupid to be white? All good too?

They were crows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35puUhqQJc

Get over yourself.

cloud493

The OP in question being offended/making a big deal out of a non issue big surprise :rolleyes:

Guy:Incognito

Banjo String wrote: »

They were crows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35puUhqQJc

Get over yourself.

The early 1940's is your counter? really?


We're talking about now. Where everything is offensive. Except to men apparently. Personally , I'm an everything goes person, but denying that there would be stories in the news and whinging if women were being called stupid en mass is either naive or deliberate argumentative.

Kermit.de.frog

ElvisChrist6 wrote: »

Honestly, I think it's a good thing men don't really care all that much about stuff like this.

What do you think the reaction would be if he said minions were female because males are not "dumb and stupid" enough?

Could you imagine what would come upon him from every feminist and feminist grouping going!?

Banjo String

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The early 1940's is your counter? really?

I've no idea what you're on about tbh. Op (and yourself)on a faux outrage campaign about sexual equality, based on a fcukin cartoon about yellow aliens?

He's not implying human females are dumb, he's saying the minions(fictional species) are dumb.

Excuse me while I don't give a shiny turd.

Guy:Incognito

Banjo String wrote: »

I've no idea what you're on about tbh. .

Surely its not that hard to figure out? Tv shows/films/people in general got away with a lot more in past generations. If they made Dumbo today do you reckon they'd have the crows in it?

The Backwards Man

An oul lad that used to live beside me had the perfect retort for these type of made up problems

'Isn't it great that we never went to war?'

Guy:Incognito

Banjo String wrote: »

He's not implying human females are dumb, he's saying the minions(fictional species) are dumb.
.

Nope , he implied males are dumb. Thats the point, he wouldn't have said the same about females because thered be backlash.

ElvisChrist6

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What do you think the reaction would be if he said minions were female because males are not "dumb and stupid" enough?

Could you imagine what would come upon him from every feminist and feminist grouping going!?

That's what I'm saying though, just because there'd be uproar from that doesn't mean there should be simply for the sake of keeping it equal. There's a lot of things people shouldn't get so worked up over (ads, marketing ploys), so why add to them just because other people don't like certain things.

Take blackface/whiteface. I don't think one is bad and the other isn't due to their history. One is bad if done in a certain way (full on gollywog type stuff, I mean, whereas Tropic Thunder's Robert Downey Jr. character for example seems fine to me) because it upsets certain people, whereas the other doesn't apart from those who want to point out the double standard. It's nothing to do with power dynamics, just that one thing upsets people and the other doesn't. No big deal.

Kermit.de.frog

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Surely its not that hard to figure out? Tv shows/films/people in general got away with a lot more in past generations. If they made Dumbo today do you reckon they'd have the crows in it?

Or this ad (with just about every black stereotype going!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LvLn9PWln8

Kermit.de.frog

ElvisChrist6 wrote: »

That's what I'm saying though, just because there'd be uproar

I'm not outraged and don't think it's a big deal. I'm just curious why it is ok going one direction and not ok going the other.


No one is "ourtraged" (I don't think)

ElvisChrist6

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm not outraged and don't think it's a big deal. I'm just curious why it is ok going one direction and not ok going the other.


No one is "ourtraged" (I don't think)

That's fair enough, sorry for assuming so! I see people that do get outraged and just assumed that's what this was getting at.

eviltwin

The person who created the minions said this, that's one person. Afaik no one has ever said anything about males being stupid when the original 2 movies came out. I would take what he says with a pinch of salt, its not worth getting angry about.

YFlyer

He said it because he knows that men wouldn't get their knickers in a knot.

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm not outraged and don't think it's a big deal. I'm just curious why it is ok going one direction and not ok going the other.


No one is "ourtraged" (I don't think)

I'm outraged at all the cleaning fluid ads featuring women cleaning toilets and mopping floors. If it was only men doing it, there'd be uproar.

See? You can feel persecuted about almost anything, if you're really desperate enough to find offence in everything.

Its' a flippin' cartoon ffs.

Carlos Orange

Banjo String wrote: »

He's not saying it about men/women, boys/girls.

He's saying it about minions. A made up species in a cartoon.

Did you even read the quote?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Or this ad (with just about every black stereotype going!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LvLn9PWln8

Italians have also been depicted as criminal pigeons in Animaniacs.

Kermit.de.frog

Candie wrote: »

I'm outraged at all the cleaning fluid ads featuring women cleaning toilets and mopping floors.

Ha, I never actually thought of that.

I think yer man Barry Scot broke the mould on that though!

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Ha, I never actually thought of that.

I think yer man Barry Scot broke the mould on that though!

He got to shout though, the women are silent cleaning machines .

NachoBusiness

I think what he means is that the minions are stupid creatures and so they'd have to be male, as females aren't portrayed as being stupid in animation, as it would look odd, given that it's not the norm.

Kermit.de.frog

Candie wrote: »

He got to shout though, the women are silent cleaning machines .

Yeah and he has one filthy bathroom judging by those ads;)

DEFTLEFTHAND

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Ha, I never actually thought of that.

I think yer man Barry Scot broke the mould on that though!

Don't forget Mr Muscle.

eviltwin

The minions aren't really stupid though. The main ones Dave and Stuart are a bit thick but the rest of them are pretty smart scientist types. I haven't seen the latest film though to judge it. You might as well complain that all the bad guys in the last two films were male so is that implying all men are villians?

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Yeah and he has one filthy bathroom judging by those ads;)

State of his taps.

Cienciano

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So Minions can't produce sexually apparently. We don't know why, it's not very realistic but anyway the creator has a curious reason as to why there are no female minions.

This is on the BBC



I don't think he would get a way with saying that the other way around against women.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ3Pd9jVEAAnsVO.png

So why is it ok to say that about boys/men? Gender equality anyone?

Because no men/boys give a shít.

Banjo String

psinno wrote: »

Did you even read the quote?

Yep.

I don't think he would get a way with saying that the other way around against women. 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ3Pd9jVEAAnsVO.png

So why is it ok to say that about boys/men? Gender equality anyone?

Minions are a made up species. They're not man/woman or boy or girl, they're a cartoon.

Stop trying to look for something to pretend to be annoyed about.

YFlyer

Candie wrote: »

I'm outraged at all the cleaning fluid ads featuring women cleaning toilets and mopping floors. If it was only men doing it, there'd be uproar.

Sure what about that guy from Big Brother years ago that was promoting bathroom cleaner instead of pissing in the shower?

Carlos Orange

Banjo String wrote: »

Yep.

If Joss Whedon said the reason there were no female Avengers was "Seeing how strong and powerful they often are,I just couldn't imagine Avengers being girls" would you consider that a comment about Avengers,girls or both?

corner of hells

OP's a Muppet and he's worrying about minions.

Kermit.de.frog

Banjo String wrote: »

Stop trying to look for something to pretend to be annoyed about.

I can't speak for that poster but who says anyone is annoyed?


Maybe you would be better advised not to pretend to be annoyed about others you think are annoyed but actually aren't?

NachoBusiness

Candie wrote: »

I'm outraged at all the cleaning fluid ads featuring women cleaning toilets and mopping floors. If it was only men doing it, there'd be uproar.

See? You can feel persecuted about almost anything, if you're really desperate enough to find offence in everything.

Its' a flippin' cartoon ffs.

Yes, but the women in those ads aren't portrayed as being dumb. Women and just in them as in the main, the products they are selling are purchased by women. When those ads do have men in them, invariably it will be suggested that the chap couldn't tie his own shoelaces if it wasn't for his having his intelligent OH around to help show him how.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOGdgvbX5Ls

kneemos

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I can't speak for that poster but who says anyone is annoyed?


Maybe you would be better advised not to pretend to be annoyed about others you think are annoyed but actually aren't?

Yeah!

That's bitch talk.

steddyeddy

Banjo String wrote: »

He's not saying it about men/women, boys/girls.

He's saying it about minions. A made up species in a cartoon.

Ridiculous statement in fairness. Too stupid to be female isn't Okay.

Banjo String

psinno wrote: »

If Joss Whedon the reason there were no female Avengers was "Seeing how strong and powerful they often are,I just couldn't imagine Avengers being girls" would you consider that a comment about Avengers,girls or both?

Who?

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I can't speak for that poster but who says anyone is annoyed?


Maybe you would be better advised not to pretend to be annoyed about others you think are annoyed but actually aren't?

Maybe you'd be better not starting threads about creatures in a cartoon, and whether or not said creatures creator may be sexist?

Kermit.de.frog

Banjo String wrote: »

Who?


Maybe you'd be better not starting threads about creatures in a cartoon, and whether or not said creatures creator may be sexist?

Maybe you should mind your own business then and stop looking and contributing to the threads?

This is After Hours which is for random, sometimes silly, stuff like this. No one is forcing you to read the thread (or maybe they are - I don't know).

Carlos Orange

Banjo String wrote: »

Who?

Clearly that was the most important part. I take it you have no familiarity with the top grossing film of 2012 either. I don't think answering the question really depends on being familiar with Joss Whedon or the Avengers tbh.

Banjo String

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Maybe you should mind your own business then and stop looking and contributing to the threads?

This is After Hours which is for random, sometimes silly, stuff like this. No one is forcing you to read the thread (or maybe they are - I don't know).

If you want people to take Your threads seriously, maybe you should stop starting threats r about fecking minions, and whether or not their creator thinks their dumb?

endacl

I'm annoyed. :mad:

Could be worse. At least I'm not green....