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The US Think They Can Extradite Gary Davis

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    #32
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,024 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    johnc77 wrote: »
    Because he has autism he should be prosecuted in Irish courts. Also the servers were not in the US. What gives the US the right to prosecute?

    Aspergers isn't autism and why does that mean a person shouldn't goto prison?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #33
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Having a mild, barely noticeable social 'tick' is a get out of jail card now?

    Does it work for offline drug dealers as well as online drug dealers?


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    #34
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Ireland shouldn't extradite anyone to the U.S. they don't have a proper legal system, torture people and have inhumane prisons.


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    #35
    zeffabelli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    I don't think they will extradite and if they do, stupid business move.

    It will become a jurisdiction issue. Irish servers. If Ireland does not protect its jurisdiction it will set precedence for other IT companies here who are probably sick of off cross jurisdiction reaches.

    Ireland would be smart not to allow the extradition purely from a business point of view.


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    #36
    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    20Cent wrote: »
    Ireland shouldn't extradite anyone to the U.S. they don't have a proper legal system, torture people and have inhumane prisons.
    And the US isn't much better. Ba-dum-tish!


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    #37
    Lemsiper
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    He was just a mod on the SR forum, not the actual SR site, right?


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    #38
    Yamanoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    corner of hells wrote: »
    Steve Davis , ok

    Ray Davis , ok

    Derek Davis , ok

    Gary Davis ?

    Divil for the Colombian marching powder by all accounts

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1RIoalqKgw


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    #39
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Ireland shouldn't extradite anyone to the U.S. they don't have a proper legal system, torture people and have inhumane prisons.

    Actually, not sure they torture people in the USA. I understood that was the whole point of Guantanemo, it would be outside the jurisdiction of the USA, and of course ironically one of its biggest critics has been the US legal system that you condemn.

    Do you support the extradition of criminals back to Ireland to face charges for serious crime here? Do you think we have a "proper legal system"? In what way is ours "proper" and theirs not?


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    #40
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    lizzyman wrote: »
    Nope.

    Silk Road was a marketplace, a platform where all kinds of (mostly) illegal shít could be sold. Morally and legally dubious, yes, very much so. But a distributor of the stuff mentioned in your post it was not.

    Like holding a conference for paedophiles to network.

    Fair play to him.


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    #41
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Actually, not sure they torture people in the USA.

    Debatable.


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    #42
    Dr Turk Turkelton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    humanji wrote: »
    And the US isn't much better. Ba-dum-tish!

    I heard US prisons are so harsh the inmates only get a Playstation2 and a standard def TV in their cells.
    Oh the humanity.


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    #43
    [Deleted User]
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    When asked why someone shouldn't be sent to jail in the US, your first reason was "because autism". He knew what he was getting himself involved in, he did that willingly.


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    #44
    Lemsiper
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    To be fair, child porn was always forbidden on the original Silk Road.

    The weaponry section was also closed early on.


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    #45
    nxbyveromdwjpg
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    Saipanne wrote: »
    Like holding a conference for paedophiles to network.

    Fair play to him.

    In another, more accurate way, nothing to do with paedophiles or CP whatsoever though.


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    #46
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    lizzyman wrote: »
    lol

    We also have one about neutrality. Didn't seem to stop the US military using Shannon as a landing base.
    .

    News flash, we are not neutral. We don't declare ourselves to be neutral either. We conduct peace keeping missions on behalf of the UN are we are part of the Northern EU battle group when called upon.

    A neutral country must have the capacity to defend it's self from the land, sea and air. We don't have that capability at all. We have to rely on others for air defence as we can't even detect aircraft flying in our airspace with no transponders.

    The US military can fly around us all they want and we would have no idea unless the UK tells us as their military radars can see all over Ireland out past the wet coast. They have tell us that there are Russian bombers 12 miles off Sligo.


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    #47
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    nm wrote: »
    In another, more accurate way, nothing to do with paedophiles or CP whatsoever though.

    Of course not. ;)


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    #48
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Not sure what Ireland owes this individual such that we would risk a reputation internationally for harbouring crims. I believe the U.S. judges understand Asbergers plenty good. Book him Danno.


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    #49
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    johnc77 wrote: »
    Not only is he an Irish citizen, Ireland has never extradited an Irish citizen to the US and they never will. He has Aspergers. The US gov would sentence him to life an extremely unfair and harsh sentence. Sending someone with aspergers to a US prision is pretty much a death sentence.
    irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gary-davis-trial-claims-wicklow-6066488

    Ship him out.
    Zero pity.
    One less demanding burdensome PITA for our society .


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    #50
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    johnc77 wrote: »
    Not only is he an Irish citizen, Ireland has never extradited an Irish citizen to the US and they never will. He has Aspergers. The US gov would sentence him to life an extremely unfair and harsh sentence. Sending someone with aspergers to a US prision is pretty much a death sentence.
    irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gary-davis-trial-claims-wicklow-6066488

    He'd better get his ass into the Ecuadorean Embassy then because they're the only ones with any balls.


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    #51
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    The Honey Monster wrote: »
    He was allegedly an admin of The Silk Road...distributors of drugs, child porn, weapons, assassinations, stolen credit cards etc?

    Tell me again how serving life in jail would be a harsh sentence?

    What crime has he committed in the US?

    If the US were so anti-drug they wouldn't have their intelligence agencies involved in the narco trade in Afghanistan, Mexico and Latin America would they?


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    #52
    nxbyveromdwjpg
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    Saipanne wrote: »
    Of course not. ;)

    That winky face is pretty weird. Do you know something about that forum he allegedly moderated that the rest of the world and the US authorities do not?


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    #53
    VisibleGorilla
    Registered Users Posts: 390 ✭✭VisibleGorilla


    Very interested in the outcome of this, I doubt he will be extradited.


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    #54
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »
    I heard US prisons are so harsh the inmates only get a Playstation2 and a standard def TV in their cells.
    Oh the humanity.

    And where did you hear that?


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    #55
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Egginacup wrote: »
    He'd better get his ass into the Ecuadorean Embassy then because they're the only ones with any balls.

    Assisting child porn facilitators to evade justice? There are many potential adjectives. "Ballsy" doesn't make the list.


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    #56
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    nm wrote: »
    That winky face is pretty weird. Do you know something about that forum he allegedly moderated that the rest of the world and the US authorities do not?

    I KNOW ALL.


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    #57
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,341 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    johnc77 wrote: »
    Not only is he an Irish citizen, Ireland has never extradited an Irish citizen to the US and they never will. He has Aspergers.
    johnc77 wrote: »
    Also Ireland actually has a law that says if the crime was not committed in the country seeking extradition they cannot extradite.
    johnc77 wrote: »
    You can even get away with hacking NASA wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon
    johnc77 wrote: »
    The servers are not located in the US. They have 0 jurisdiction.
    johnc77 wrote: »
    Nope rico does not apply to bitcoin transactions.

    What exactly is the panic then? If your legal knowledge is well researched and correct then it seems an absolutely slam dunk case that he cant possibly be extradited.


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    #58
    colossus-x
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭colossus-x


    realies wrote: »
    If the U.S. Want him most likely the U.S. Will get him, it takes a strong government /country to say no to them...

    Like Edward Snowden...


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    #59
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    What exactly is the panic then? If your legal knowledge is well researched and correct then it seems an absolutely slam dunk case that he cant possibly be extradited.

    Exactly. With Johnny on the case, our friend Gary has nothing to worry about.


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    #60
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    lizzyman wrote: »
    lol

    We also have one about neutrality. Didn't seem to stop the US military using Shannon as a landing base.

    I can see this poor guy being fúcked off the the States as soon as they put in an extradition request.

    :( I don't even know if you're being ironic. Allowing the transition of men/material does not constitute a breach of neutrality.


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    #61
    IrishTrajan
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    SuperS54 wrote: »
    You seem to know an awful lot about Mr. Davis, the crimes he's alleged to have committed and the relevant laws...what's your stake in this? What's your relationship to him?

    When someone answers a question, he must be up to something?


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