Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

pinkypinky

Agree on Kilrush, Ballandra and Bacon. Not totally sure about the maiden name. It could be a weird G. The writer makes his r in two different ways across the document.

mickmackey1

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPCK-KHM

Edward Nowlan
Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name Edward Nowlan
Gender Male
Birth Date 16 Jan 1868
Birthplace Wexford, Ireland
Father's Name Thomas Nowlan
Mother's Name Mary Crimeen

oceanclub

mickmackey1 wrote: »

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPCK-KHM

Thanks! I'd already had that actually, so decided to get the actual transcript to see if any more information of if I could work out the name from there....

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oceanclub

pinkypinky wrote: »

Agree on Kilrush, Ballandra and Bacon. Not totally sure about the maiden name. It could be a weird G. The writer makes his r in two different ways across the document.

Thanks; it's weird as Ballandra & Wexford turns up no sensible Google hits at all. Searching for any variation of the word, I get Mexico. :-\

I did a search on the Index of Townlands; the closest to it is "Ballyandrew". Possible?



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shanew

Ballyandrew sounds good to me - definitely fits in terms of being in Kilrush civil parish, Enniscorthy registration district and Ferns sub-district, as per the cert

shanew

possible a mix-up with mother's first name ... a baptism on the 17th Jan 1868 in Kilrush & Askmore RC parish, of a 'Ned' Nolan, parents Tom Nolan and Alice Crimeen.

I think the address on that baptism is a reference to the townland of Moneydurtlow, also in Kilrush civil parish and adjacent to Ballyandrew townland.

Hermy

The fifth entry from the bottom on the left hand page is the marriage of Francis Masterson and Bridget McGrath.
At the top of the same page there is a note relating to this marriage.
Can anyone tell me what the note might be referring to?

mickmackey1

Possibly referring to the baptisms of Masterson and McGrath in the same parish, which the priest had located in the Baptismal Book?

Hermy

Looks like see 6th page (after the baptisms) of the baptismal book...

mickmackey1

Yep, in otherwords you'll see the names of Masterson and Mcgrath on the 6th page of the baptismal book, after their baptism. I've seen several notes like that, Joe Bloggs baptised in 1860 and then in the margin: Joe Bloggs was married in 1885.

Hermy

There's a likely entry for Francis on what I think is page 5 but no McGrath's.

montgo

Help please on Bridget's surname (sponsor) for this baptism of Mary Brien on 27 March 1847. (2nd record from top of left hand page).

spurious

Cosgreve?

Plenty of Cosgraves in Moanmore in the 1901 census, so it possibly became that, or was that.

montgo

Thanks spurious, it could well be Cosgrave. However, I can't find any Cosgraves recorded on the Emly census, were you referring to Moanmore, Dromwood?

spurious

montgo wrote: »

Thanks spurious, it could well be Cosgrave. However, I can't find any Cosgraves recorded on the Emly census, were you referring to Moanmore, Dromwood?

There are two Moanmores in Tipp? Ah rats, my mistake. I still think it's Cosgreve/Cosgrave though.

oceanclub

There's a record of a James Moloney baptism here, but I note there have been notes on marriage after & before the entry which I wonder are of interest?

http://i.imgur.com/wy7JzT5.png

The top one looks like "Married Newport February 1921", while the bottom reads "Married <something> <something> 1916". Anyone hazard a guess which entry is associated with James and what the missing words are (if it's that entry)?

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oceanclub

Another one here:

http://i.imgur.com/XqVima2.png

Anyone know what place of death reads? Or profession? Or last line of 8? Or last line of 9 (looks like same as place of death)

Also this marriage cert:

http://i.imgur.com/CqycCe8.png

I presume the residence reads "Portobello Barracks"? Think the groom's is just H. Newns. But what about the witnesses - Joseph ???? and Agnes Bloomfield?

Thanks.

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mickmackey1

Place of death - Foiladera (near Doon)
Profession - farmer
Duration of illness - 1 mo. 1 week app (?)
Probably Foiladera also.

montgo

Looks like =
Place- Foilaclera (Doon which was probably in the District of Grean/Pallasgreen)
Profession - farmer

On the baptism record, (sometimes easier to see the whole page), it would appear to be James who married in Newport. I'm not sure if Newport is in the Nenagh district, if so this could be the marriage.

Party 1 Name James MOLONEY
Party 2 Name BRIDGET RYAN
Date of Event 20 February 1921
Group Registration ID 1233449
SR District/Reg Area Nenagh

pinkypinky

Joseph Sipan?

Agree father's first name is just given as H.
Agree Agnes Bloomfield.

spurious

Last line of 8 is 'No med. att.' No medical attendance.

On the marriage cert. the groom's name looks like Newvis. In both his and the father's name there is a clear 'dot' over an 'i'.

**edit Might be a long shot, but there is a Sidney and Esther Newns in the Dagenham, Sussex electoral rolls of 1964 (qualifying date 10th October, 1963).

oceanclub

pinkypinky wrote: »

Joseph Sipan?

Agree father's first name is just given as H.
Agree Agnes Bloomfield.

The surname Spain rings a bell...

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KildareFan

Sydney Harold Newns military record:
Sidney Harold
Last name Newns
Age 30
Birth year 1889
Service number 9285
Regiment Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment)
Unit / Battalion 2nd Battalion
Year 1919
Residence town Dublin
Residence county Dublin
Residence country Ireland
Series WO 363
Series description WO 363 - First World War service records 'burnt documents'
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Military Service & Conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from United Kingdom

KildareFan

Sergt Sydney Harold Newns's record is on findmypast
Born 1889, lived at 16 Hereford Park, Bexley, York; served on SS Kumara from Southhampton, as deckboy, engaged 3 June 1907; engaged as assistant steward on 5 Nov 1907,
enlisted 1908 with a reference from his Rector - had been a choir boy
He was discharged aged 30 on 17 April 1919 address 9 Marlboro Place Dublin, he had gunshot wounds on his head, hand and arms, weekly pension 8/3 to be reviewed in a year; one dependent child
Another discharge on 24 Aug 1919, address 47 South Dock St, Dublin
he was awarded the Victory Medal 1921, medal posted to 9 Marlboro Place, Dublin
there's some correspondence addressed to him
there's a note of change of address to 90 St George's Road, Forest Gate - can't see the address

oceanclub

KildareFan wrote: »

Sydney Harold Newns military record:

Collections from United Kingdom

Nice spot - where did you find that?

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oceanclub

KildareFan wrote: »

Sergt Sydney Harold Newns's record is on findmypast
Born 1889, lived at 16 Hereford Park, Bexley, York; served on SS Kumara from Southhampton, as deckboy, engaged 3 June 1907; engaged as assistant steward on 5 Nov 1907,
enlisted 1908 with a reference from his Rector - had been a choir boy
He was discharged aged 30 on 17 April 1919 address 9 Marlboro Place Dublin, he had gunshot wounds on his head, hand and arms, weekly pension 8/3 to be reviewed in a year; one dependent child
Another discharge on 24 Aug 1919, address 47 South Dock St, Dublin
he was awarded the Victory Medal 1921, medal posted to 9 Marlboro Place, Dublin
there's some correspondence addressed to him
there's a note of change of address to 90 St George's Road, Forest Gate - can't see the address

Is that from a shared family tree?

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KildareFan

Hi Oceanclub

Is that from a shared family tree?

No - all information is from the Findmypast.ie website which hosts data on military records. Let me know if you need any further information.

pinkypinky

Mod note: title of thread changed to include any handwriting help deciphering.

Mez1982

Anyone have any idea what the surname that I have circled might be?
I see a y e r. I have no idea what the first letter is..

spurious

Byer?