Tunisia Attack

Reg'stoy

omnithanos wrote: »

For example I'm dubious about whether those 39 people actually died on the beach in Tunisia but as I don't have much evidence to back this up I won't disrespect the berieved.

It's up in the air whether something will happen in Huston over the weekend.
There could be another staged terror attack, or perhaps a genuine drill as happened in London this week or perhaps nothing at all which would indicate their plans were rumbled by national coverage of the Craigslist ad.

Desmonddoyle wrote: »

But I will give you this - if something big happens in Houston this weekend, I'll certainly be well on my way to being convinced and i'll be going back over your 'evidence' with a fine tooth comb.

Come on, you state that you doubt that 39 people actually died during the beach attack in Tunisia, but you have no evidence. You then for some reason say you don't want to disrespect the bereaved?? but you have in doubting their grief. Three Irish died during that cowardly attack and I'm going to ask that you withdraw that remark; particularly as one of the victims is being buried today.

I see that you have started using the Derek Acorah and alex jones style cover all options language. Omnithanos has even played the jones trump card in the event that nothing happens, we "rumbled" their plans so they couldn't carry out their evil plot. With language like that, you just have to hit the wall that the dart board is hanging on let alone the bull to claim a direct hit.

As for your comment Des "about something big in Houston", well that has opened the door for omnithanos. A train crash, bus crash any action involving police officers (any event what so ever) in that city let alone Texas or indeed the States will be proof 'positive' that he was right. If a tsunami strikes Japan this weekend it will have been caused by a butterfly flapping its wings in Houston (I'm being facetious).
Thing is, this weekend is an obvious choice for someone be it a homegrown or other terrorist group to attack. It's the 'birthday' of the most hated nation on earth; personally I'd be surprised if there is not some sort of incident that omnithonas will not be able to claim as one he predicted.

ScumLord

omnithanos wrote: »

We are all conditioned by the media. Obvious discrepancies exist.

I don't think that's really the case. The media aren't some harmonious group all singing off the same hymn sheet. Media companies are still just self serving businesses at the end of the day, they'd each stab each other in the back to get one up on their competitors. The world you're describing just wouldn't work. Companies are self serving, they don't go out of the way to help their competitors, especially media groups that are reeling from the effects of the internet.

Those who investigate should not be classed as intellectual heavyweights, merely concerned and interested parties who form theories with varying degrees of believability from Reptilian Aliens, Satanic Cults or Political Corruption.

But these are just theories that people have come up with off the top of their heads. If I say it was the honey monster it's not a valid theory just because I've said it out loud. They want these things to be true and because there's no actual evidence to back it up they resort to the most bizarre methods like looking to TV shows and connecting split seconds from completely unrelated movies just because there's something in them that they can use.

The satanic angle may be a similar ploy as there is a definite satanic connection to many of these events.

I haven't seen anything that proves any sort of satanic link.

Some individuals appear to be completely brainwashed so that when they come across an opinion which contradicts their belief system they lash out and call the informant a loopy loon. Logical debate is often disregarded completely.

How can you have a logical debate when people keep using illogical arguments? You have not presented any logical argument to back up your theories. Family guy, simpsons, terminator films are not logical examples. The Simpsons have been on TV for more than 20 years, you could probably back up any theory by scouring the episodes and picking out sections that you could use.

Hitler highlighted this concept in his book Mein Kamp where he said the greater the lie the greater the possibility it will be believed.

Hitler lived in a different time and I don't think he's ramblings would work out in the modern world.

What one should do is form an opinion based on fact and logic and not blindly accept any version of events.

Yes, facts about how humans can't keep a secret, facts about how businesses and economies actually work. the fact is a global conspiracy as you describe would be virtually impossible to maintain.

I admit that I am now biased towards not believing official accounts but I won't declare something is fake unless some evidence exists. For example I'm dubious about whether those 39 people actually died on the beach in Tunisia but as I don't have much evidence to back this up I won't disrespect the berieved.

What evidence do you have to think it was faked. The only thing really leading you to believe it's fake is you already believe every other terrorist attack has been faked. Every terrorist attack that happens from now on will seem fake to you. You've been preprogrammed to disbelieve anything presented by the press and instead believe the fear mongering on US bible belt Christians.

omnithanos

Reg'stoy wrote: »

Come on, you state that you doubt that 39 people actually died during the beach attack in Tunisia, but you have no evidence. You then for some reason say you don't want to disrespect the bereaved?? but you have in doubting their grief. Three Irish died during that cowardly attack and I'm going to ask that you withdraw that remark; particularly as one of the victims is being buried today.

Thing is, this weekend is an obvious choice for someone be it a homegrown or other terrorist group to attack. It's the 'birthday' of the most hated nation on earth; personally I'd be surprised if there is not some sort of incident that omnithonas will not be able to claim as one he predicted.

Regarding the Tunisian attack I stand by my statement that I do wish to disrespect the actual bereaved and it is with respect to the bereaved that the actual culprits should be exposed.

There is evidence that shows that crisis actors are on the scene.

Here is a lady recovering from the attack



and here is a close up of her IV port which clearly isn't hooked up



There is also very strong evidence to suggest the shooting of the shooter was staged.

Here is the shooter lying dead in the street with no blood and no grenade prop



Here he is with a stream of blood this time and an added grenade prop



and here is is again lying dead on the ground in a different location with no bushes in the background



Regarding an attack happening on Americas Independence Day, which you claim is an easy prediction, do you also suggest that if there were to be an event in Houston this weekend that it would be just another of your coincidences that the craigslist ad mentioned Houston?

How many of these coincidences were there on 9/11 and Boston? It's time to start using logic and stop attributing every single anomaly to coincidence.

ScumLord

omnithanos wrote: »

and here is a close up of her IV port which clearly isn't hooked up

So? Have you ever had an IV in? Sometimes they come out and you have to wait for someone to come and put them back in. That her IV wasn't in tell us nothing other than her IV wasn't in.

There is also very strong evidence to suggest the shooting of the shooter was staged.

Here is the shooter lying dead in the street with no blood and no grenade prop

OK, he's just after being shot.

Here he is with a stream of blood this time and an added grenade prop

Picture taken a few minutes later. That's not a grenade. It's too big.

and here is is again lying dead on the ground in a different location with no bushes in the background

The bush could be off to the side. The camera angle is completely different.

Again, nothing here but you trying to make an event fit in with your belief this is a global conspiracy.

Overheal

That also seems to be someone completely different with white-trimmed clothing.

Timberrrrrrrr

Overheal wrote: »

That also seems to be someone completely different with white-trimmed clothing.

No massive pothole next to body either, Looks like a picture of a totally different person imo.

Caovyn Lineah

Blue sports style shorts in one picture, plain black in the other 2. This is amazing.

pmasterson95

Body parralel to path in first two then perpendicular in the last one.

Titanucd

Omniithanos, Where did you find those pics? The IV tube not being in means nothing. If 'They' were trying to fake this it would be easier to hook the tube up to saline and make sure the tube was inserted into the wrist.

as regards the pictures of the dead perp, The first looks like it could be real but the second and third? I don't think so.
The reason I don't think so is because there is too much blood for someone who was shot dead. After the heart stops beating blood stops pouring so I would call shenanigans on that one! Also where was the photographer? on the wall?

You say that:
''I'm dubious about whether those 39 people actually died on the beach in Tunisia but as I don't have much evidence to back this up I won't disrespect the berieved.''

Thats like saying ''with all due respect''

Means little other than you dont believe 39 people were killed but dont want to say as much because you realise people on here may know the victims and be able to confirm they are actually dead and thus blow your ideas out of the water for good.

ScumLord

Titanucd wrote: »

The reason I don't think so is because there is too much blood for someone who was shot dead. After the heart stops beating blood stops pouring so I would call shenanigans on that one! Also where was the photographer? on the wall?

Blood will continue to flow out of the body after the heart stops. The heart just pumps the blood at a high rate, it doesn't stop blood leaving the body. If anything I could imagine once the person is dead, blood would flow much easier as it's not being actively retained by the organs. If you have a whole in your body blood will come out, with or without a heart beat.

And yes, it does seem like the photographer is on the wall. What's unusual about that? The wall could be hiding a staircase up to higher floor level where the photographer could easily stand and take a photo.

omnithanos

Titanucd wrote: »

Omniithanos, Where did you find those pics? The IV tube not being in means nothing. If 'They' were trying to fake this it would be easier to hook the tube up to saline and make sure the tube was inserted into the wrist.

as regards the pictures of the dead perp, The first looks like it could be real but the second and third? I don't think so.
The reason I don't think so is because there is too much blood for someone who was shot dead. After the heart stops beating blood stops pouring so I would call shenanigans on that one! Also where was the photographer? on the wall?

You say that:
''I'm dubious about whether those 39 people actually died on the beach in Tunisia but as I don't have much evidence to back this up I won't disrespect the berieved.''

Thats like saying ''with all due respect''

Means little other than you dont believe 39 people were killed but dont want to say as much because you realise people on here may know the victims and be able to confirm they are actually dead and thus blow your ideas out of the water for good.

I would welcome proof that the people were killed. I don't have an agenda.

Timberrrrrrrr

omnithanos wrote: »

I would welcome proof that the people were killed. I don't have an agenda.

Well there are funerals and such taking place in towns. Are all the mourners actors? Why Are the people of these towns not informing us that they never knew the dead people?

omnithanos

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well there are funerals and such taking place in towns. Are all the mourners actors? Why Are the people of these towns not informing us that they never knew the dead people?

All very sad but not actual proof that those people are dead.
I find it interesting that they would stage the shooters death but have the shooter actually kill innocents.

They decided to pull his top off for this version

omnithanos

omnithanos wrote: »

All very sad but not actual proof that those people are dead.
I find it interesting that they would stage the shooters death but have the shooter actually kill innocents.

What would you consider "proof"?

Also you haven't bothered to address the point that in those 3 pics the last one is a different person.

ScumLord

omnithanos wrote: »

All very sad but not actual proof that those people are dead.
I find it interesting that they would stage the shooters death but have the shooter actually kill innocents.

Nothing was staged. Everything including the people that were there backs up the report it was a terrorist attack where people were killed.

Are you saying the families of the deceased are also lying to us and that they didn't go through the identification process (something I've had to do myself in a foreign country). Remember you do have to go in and identify a dead family member. So you're basically accusing two countries, thousands of holiday goers, two police forces, funeral undertakers and an entire town in Ireland of being part of a satanic conspiracy now. There's going to be no one left on the planet that's not part of this conspiracy at this rate.

Desmonddoyle

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well there are funerals and such taking place in towns. Are all the mourners actors? Why Are the people of these towns not informing us that they never knew the dead people?

They're all in on it

The complexity of convincing the world that people were massacred on numerous occasions, when they actually weren't, just beggars belief. It would certainly be the greatest trick the devil ever pulled off.
You should get out of your bedroom and go to one of these funerals - see actual reality, and take a break from your internet investigations business.

omnithanos

Deleted User wrote: »

What would you consider "proof"?

Also you haven't bothered to address the point that in those 3 pics the last one is a different person.

And you don't think that's in any way suspicious?

I think it is the same person. I don't know whether it's the same pair of shorts but the shorts in the first two photos are actually blue as well not black.

It's definitely not the same location.
Did the police drag his body down the road to get a different photo?

omnithanos

Desmonddoyle wrote: »

They're all in on it

The complexity of convincing the world that people were massacred on numerous occasions, when they actually weren't, just beggars belief. It would certainly be the greatest trick the devil ever pulled off.
You should get out of your bedroom and go to one of these funerals - see actual reality, and take a break from your internet investigations business.

You mentioned logic.
Just because people are at a funeral doesn't mean there's a body inside the coffin.
They don't all have to be in on it.

Also why would the US Government use a photo of victims at the Boston Bombing in an ad looking for Crisis actors unless those pictured victims at the Boston Bombing were also Crisis actors for which there is abundant proof.
Using a photo of actual victims in an ad looking for crisis actors would be highly inappropriate.

ScumLord

omnithanos wrote: »

And you don't think that's in any way suspicious?

I think it is the same person. I don't know whether it's the same pair of shorts but the shorts in the first two photos are actually blue as well not black.

The shorts are completely different. Are you now saying they changed the guys shorts? Why would they do that if they're trying to maintain a conspiracy?

omnithanos wrote: »

You mentioned logic.
Just because people are at a funeral doesn't mean there's a body inside the coffin.

So what's in the coffin? I heard no reports of a closed coffin. It's like you've never been to an Irish wake before. If the person is not in the coffin where are they?

omnithanos

ScumLord wrote: »

The shorts are completely different. Are you now saying they changed the guys shorts? Why would they do that if they're trying to maintain a conspiracy?

So what's in the coffin? I heard no reports of a closed coffin. It's like you've never been to an Irish wake before. If the person is not in the coffin where are they?

Alive

Regarding the shorts they may be the same pair.
There is a hint of a white stripe in the second photo.
I don't understand why they'd want to "shoot" him from different angles.

omnithanos

omnithanos wrote: »

And you don't think that's in any way suspicious?

What's suspicious? That there are pictures of two different dead people.

I think it is the same person. I don't know whether it's the same pair of shorts but the shorts in the first two photos are actually blue as well not black.

Of course you do.

It's definitely not the same location.
Did the police drag his body down the road to get a different photo?

Ah so close, we agree it's not the same location.


I'll ask again, what would be "proof" to you that people died? That the 3 Irish and 36 others died? Or any of them?

Desmonddoyle

omnithanos wrote: »

Just because people are at a funeral doesn't mean there's a body inside the coffin.

It's easy enough to check.
I think most family members would tend to check that, and often there is an open coffin.

omnithanos

Deleted User wrote: »

What's suspicious? That there are pictures of two different dead people.


I'll ask again, what would be "proof" to you that people died? That the 3 Irish and 36 others died? Or any of them?

Why would the authorities put out photos of two different people and claim they were both the dead shooter which is what you claim.

A dead body is proof that people died.

omnithanos

Desmonddoyle wrote: »

It's easy enough to check.
I think most family members would tend to check that, and often there is an open coffin.

As this is a shooting there may not be an open coffin and the close family members could be in on it. The husband would have to be.

This is all just supposition. We should be dealing with the fact that the photos of the dead shooter are well dodgy.

I'm not hearing any facts from you official story believers.

Overheal

omnithanos wrote: »

I don't understand why they'd want to "shoot" him from different angles.

Because if they're all different dead bodies...

A dead body is proof that people died.

Except when it isn't, according to you.

ScumLord

omnithanos wrote: »

Alive

So part of the $200 these people get to show up at the crisis event, they also get set up in a new life? Why wouldn't the satanists just kill the people rather than spending fortunes hiding them and running the risk of all these thousands of people turning up again.

I don't understand why they'd want to "shoot" him from different angles.

That's photography 101. Get as many photos as you can, they don't just take one picture and think their job is done.

omnithanos

Overheal wrote: »

Because if they're all different dead bodies...Except when it isn't, according to you.

Please explain why the authorities are putting out different photos porporting to be the dead shooter which do not correspind.
What further proof do you need?

Titanucd

ScumLord wrote: »

Blood will continue to flow out of the body after the heart stops. The heart just pumps the blood at a high rate, it doesn't stop blood leaving the body. If anything I could imagine once the person is dead, blood would flow much easier as it's not being actively retained by the organs. If you have a whole in your body blood will come out, with or without a heart beat.

And yes, it does seem like the photographer is on the wall. What's unusual about that? The wall could be hiding a staircase up to higher floor level where the photographer could easily stand and take a photo.

Well not necessarily. Blood only flows after death due to gravity. it doesn't come out easier in fact if it comes out at all it will be slower than if the person was alive. The point I was trying to make about those 2 photos was that one of them was possibly photoshopped. To what end I don't know.

What's unusual about somebody standing on a wall taking snaps of a dead body? Errr well the fact that they're on a wall taking a picture of a dead body.
Are these photos official Tunisian police/medical/state photos that were released or are they "leaked" that's why I asked omnithanos where he found the pics, so I could try to understand the context of the photos.

Overheal

omnithanos wrote: »

Please explain why the authorities are putting out different photos porporting to be the dead shooter which do not correspind.
What further proof do you need?

Funny: when the media puts out different photos you don't think they're the same person, but when some hatter on the internet does the same thing your argument becomes they're the same person with different shorts.

Further proof would require a lot, like a motive, a who, and what prior indications were there that this was staged. Does Tunisia have craigslist? :rolleyes:

Blood only flows after death due to gravity

Fluid will flow from areas of high pressure to areas of low pressure. p = mgh is just one equation used to study fluid mechanics.

ScumLord

omnithanos wrote: »

Please explain why the authorities are putting out different photos porporting to be the dead shooter which do not correspind.
What further proof do you need?

How should they correspond? There's no law that a photographer has to stand in one position taking photos.

Titanucd wrote: »

Well not necessarily. Blood only flows after death due to gravity. it doesn't come out easier in fact if it comes out at all it will be slower than if the person was alive. The point I was trying to make about those 2 photos was that one of them was possibly photoshopped. To what end I don't know.

What's unusual about somebody standing on a wall taking snaps of a dead body? Errr well the fact that they're on a wall taking a picture of a dead body.
Are these photos official Tunisian police/medical/state photos that were released or are they "leaked" that's why I asked omnithanos where he found the pics, so I could try to understand the context of the photos.

Photographers will go to all sorts of lengths to take photos, they'll hide out in bins, spend the night up the side of a mountain to get pictures of a sun rise. Standing on a wall is something I'm sure just about any photographer has done.

It's possible these photos were taken by completely different people and it's highly unlikely they're official police pictures as they tend to have references in them for scale. There's nothing about the photos that would lead me to believe it's photoshopped.

The third photo looks like someone else entirely. It could be the same person it's possible the white stripes on the shorts are just on the front but the location is different. You can see brickwork on the road beside the path in the first two photos which don't seem to be in the third.

omnithanos

Titanucd wrote: »

Well not necessarily. Blood only flows after death due to gravity. it doesn't come out easier in fact if it comes out at all it will be slower than if the person was alive. The point I was trying to make about those 2 photos was that one of them was possibly photoshopped. To what end I don't know.

What's unusual about somebody standing on a wall taking snaps of a dead body? Errr well the fact that they're on a wall taking a picture of a dead body.
Are these photos official Tunisian police/medical/state photos that were released or are they "leaked" that's why I asked omnithanos where he found the pics, so I could try to understand the context of the photos.

In the first photo the authorities had time to walk around the body before they took the picture so it's obvious that they then used fake blood & planted the prop that wasn't in the first photo.

What were they trying to show in the other two photos where they changed location & took off his top?

This looks like an obvious hoax to me. I don't understand why none of you find it suspicious.

Just Google Tunisian shooter corpse & they'll all come up.

Caovyn Lineah

So is the shooter a real person? Is he dead? Why would they shoot and kill him if he hadn't really murdered 39 people?

pmasterson95

omnithanos wrote: »

Please explain why the authorities are putting out different photos porporting to be the dead shooter which do not correspind.
What further proof do you need?

You found clearly different shot dead people and are saying its the same? Is the person in this photo dead? Maybe its a crisis actor omni?

pmasterson95

omnithanos wrote: »

In the first photo the authorities had time to walk around the body before they took the picture so it's obvious that they then used fake blood & planted the prop that wasn't in the first photo.

What were they trying to show in the other two photos where they changed location & took off his top?

This looks like an obvious hoax to me. I don't understand why none of you find it suspicious.

Just Google Tunisian shooter corpse & they'll all come up.

Because in history there has only been one "Tunisian Shooter Corpse"?

ScumLord

omnithanos wrote: »

In the first photo the authorities had time to walk around the body before they took the picture so it's obvious that they then used fake blood & planted the prop that wasn't in the first photo.

How is it obvious they did any of that? How are you able to tell what time the photos where taken and what gap there was between photos? YOur filling in a lot of detail that just isn't there.

What were they trying to show in the other two photos where they changed location & took off his top?

It's more than likely a different person in the third photo.

This looks like an obvious hoax to me. I don't understand why none of you find it suspicious.

Because there's nothing suspicious about it. You're just making up details again.

Rabo Karabekian

Titanucd wrote: »

The reason I don't think so is because there is too much blood for someone who was shot dead. After the heart stops beating blood stops pouring so I would call shenanigans on that one! Also where was the photographer? on the wall?

I love how some people become experts on what would happen with bloodflow when somebody has been shot. Are you basing your suppositions on your favourite episodes of CSI or do you work in the area?

omnithanos wrote: »

In the first photo the authorities had time to walk around the body before they took the picture so it's obvious that they then used fake blood & planted the prop that wasn't in the first photo.

And change his shorts. Don't forget about how they changed his shorts. Because, in this elaborate staged false flag operation (and this happens in a LOT of false flag operations) you have a situation where something as meticulously planned as part of a New World Order but where clues are left in old 80s films for the laugh as well as bizarre mistakes such as taking photos of a 'dead' body and forgetting about the blood. So the photographer (who is obviously involved in the false flag operation unless he just happened to be looking away as the bizarrely incompetent orchestrators placed the blood and grenade-that-looks-nothing-like-a-grenade).

omnithanos wrote: »

This looks like an obvious hoax to me. I don't understand why none of you find it suspicious.

Just Google Tunisian shooter corpse & they'll all come up.

It's the numbers, for me (something I mentioned in a previous thread, but you ignored). Can you estimate how many people were involved in the 'false flag' operation in Tunisia? This would include the 38 people 'murdered', the attacker, the workers, the planners of the operation, as well as close family of those that were 'killed' (extended family if the funeral was an open casket).

As opposed to hiring an assassin and just murdering the people? Seriously, crisis actors? Elaborately staged fake legs and blood pumps? This New World Order/Ancient Satanic Cult/Whatever actually don't seem to be all that evil, as they are doing absolutely everything in their power not to kill all these people.

And this is an attack that was nothing on the scale of 9/11. Estimate the numbers involved in that one.

Timberrrrrrrr

omnithanos wrote: »

Please explain why the authorities are putting out different photos porporting to be the dead shooter which do not correspind.
What further proof do you need?

Can you show evidence that the pictures you post were released by the authorities?

Caovyn Lineah

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Can you show evidence that the pictures you post were released by the authorities?

The only picture that matches up with the one of the shooter walking the beach is the one where the body is propped up against the kerb.

Titanucd

Rabo Karabekian wrote: »

I love how some people become experts on what would happen with bloodflow when somebody has been shot. Are you basing your suppositions on your favourite episodes of CSI or do you work in the area?


Am I wrong about the blood? I've never seen an episode of CSI.

Rabo Karabekian

Titanucd wrote: »

Well not necessarily. Blood only flows after death due to gravity. it doesn't come out easier in fact if it comes out at all it will be slower than if the person was alive. The point I was trying to make about those 2 photos was that one of them was possibly photoshopped. To what end I don't know.

Titanucd wrote: »

Am I wrong about the blood?

I don't know, but for you (or anyone) to make any suppositions about the bloodflow (according to what you said above) you would need to know exactly when the shooter died, where the entry point was for the bullet or bullets, and what position the shooter was when he was injured, dying and dead. I don't think any of us know the specifics, so any attempt to say that a photograph was definitely photoshopped based on those photos is basing it not on evidence but supposition.

Titanucd

Rabo Karabekian wrote: »

I don't know, but for you (or anyone) to make any suppositions about the bloodflow (according to what you said above) you would need to know exactly when the shooter died, where the entry point was for the bullet or bullets, and what position the shooter was when he was injured, dying and dead. I don't think any of us know the specifics, so any attempt to say that a photograph was definitely photoshopped based on those photos is basing it not on evidence but supposition.

Well this is an Internet forum not a court of law so what harm?
I based my call of shenanigans on the fact that the picture didn't look real due to the amount of blood from a body that hadn't been bleeding in the previous shot. One of the photos is probably not legit. If the guy was alive after being shot for a while then that amount of blood is plausible but if he died instantly it's probably not. If he didn't die instantly but lay there bleeding awhile then you would expect to see blood in both photos no?

omnithanos

They all appear to be official photos

The Daily Mirror goes with scenario no.1 Using two different photo angles and no blood (metro also went with this one).





http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/tunisia-hotel-attack-new-video-5958220



The New York Daily News go with scenario no.2, the one with the blue shorts (The Daily Mail also went with this one).

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/7-killed-attack-2-tunisian-hotels-article-1.2272159

ScumLord

omnithanos wrote: »

They all appear to be official photos

What makes you say that? Official in what sense? They're more than likely press or bystanders.

We can even see people taking their own photos in the photos.

These seem to be right after he was shot. Forensics wouldn't have come anywhere near the place by then.

omnithanos

ScumLord wrote: »

What makes you say that? Official in what sense? They're more than likely press or bystanders.

We can even see people taking their own photos in the photos.

These seem to be right after he was shot. Forensics wouldn't have come anywhere near the place by then.

Official in the sense that they are all used by the media.

Interestingly the Mirror also use the shirtless photo whiich shows him in the blue shorts from scenario no. 2

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/tunisia-attack-picture-isis-gunman-5980088

Also interesting is how the stream of blood is different lengths going past his foot in this photo from the mirror



but only going half way down in this photo (oh and the home made explosive is missing in the one so that was obviously planted)

Rabo Karabekian

omnithanos wrote: »

Official in the sense that they are all used by the media.

Interestingly the Mirror also use the shirtless photo whiich shows him in the blue shorts from scenario no. 2

Also interesting is how the stream of blood is different lengths going past his foot in this photo from the mirror

but only going half way down in this photo (oh and the home made explosive is missing in the one so that was obviously planted)

Can you elaborate on why you think the people who staged this changed his shorts?

Also, do you have a timeframe for when the photos were taken? Could differing timeframes account for differing amounts of blood (I'm going to ignore the fact that one of the photos has a completely blurred image).

Are all the people that we see in the photo actors?

Do you think that these photos show a man that was killed and we're being lied to that he's the person responsible?

Rabo Karabekian

Titanucd wrote: »

Well this is an Internet forum not a court of law so what harm?
I based my call of shenanigans on the fact that the picture didn't look real due to the amount of blood from a body that hadn't been bleeding in the previous shot. One of the photos is probably not legit. If the guy was alive after being shot for a while then that amount of blood is plausible but if he died instantly it's probably not. If he didn't die instantly but lay there bleeding awhile then you would expect to see blood in both photos no?

Perhaps, but the time that the photos were taken might (or might not) account for this. Where he was shot would surely account for the amount of blood a person would lose, no? It's at least something worth taking into account.

My point is that we know nothing about when these photos were taken, by whom, nor do we know the particulars about where and how this person was shot. And yet we're making judgements about the amount of blood being suspect when we don't have a clue, either specifically or generally about murder victims.

BoJack Horseman

3 Irish people were murdered.

Where is the conspiracy?

Merry Prankster

Omnithanos, I hate to burst your bubble but...

I know Irish people who were in Sousse when it happened who can verify the event.
I have a Tunisian friend from Sousse who currently lives in Ireland. His family can verify the event.

Bonus nugget: I have a friend who witnessed 9/11. He also can verify the event.

P.S. What government(s) would take such a great risk to stage the Tunisia attack? With every CT you need to ask yourself what the supposed conspirators hope to achieve, and is it worth such enormous risk?

Rabo Karabekian

Merry Prankster wrote: »

Omnithanos, I hate to burst your bubble but...

I know Irish people who were in Sousse when it happened who can verify the event.
I have a Tunisian friend from Sousse who currently lives in Ireland. His family can verify the event.

Bonus nugget: I have a friend who witnessed 9/11. He also can verify the event.

P.S. What government(s) would take such a great risk to stage the Tunisia attack? With every CT you need to ask yourself what the supposed conspirators hope to achieve, and is it worth such enormous risk?

I would suggest that it's more than this. According to Omnithanos, the objectives are clear (s/he's mentioned them previously: fanning the flames of mistrust to allow for an invasion of Syria) and the risk is the eventual implementation of the NWO, their ultimate goal, so an attack like the one in Tunisia would make sense. But hiring hundreds upon hundreds of actors to achieve this goal? And the risk that one of these people would talk? It's completely unbelievable, and I think a large percentage of the red flag supporters know this or have backed themselves into a corner that they refuse to acknowledge any element of logic.

If it was a conspiracy theory, it would make more sense to hire someone seriously unstable, train them as an assassin and then kill them after the act. No need for the ads on craigslist asking for crisis actors.

enno99

RE the shorts I saw news coverage where a witness told how they cut the shorts from him in case there was explosives
look pic of the where the shirt is opened underwear with MEN on the waistband is all over the markets there navy and white piping so black shorts navy underwear
It could also explain the moving of the body

degrassinoel

Folks,

I'm temporarily closing this thread.

Considering the victims funerals are still underway, it's a very raw subject and should be given time before a CT is attributed to it, purely out of respect for the victims if nothing else.

It's just a bit soon for this to be a CT, and tbh it's not even that, it's referencing comments from a recently closed thread.

-Dgn


Additional - the charter feedback thread would be the place to discuss this closure - if there's no response there, pm me directly and i'll try to answer you from there.