Cyclists - Rules of the road

Andy From Sligo

I just watched the Rules of the Road advert on RTE1 before 9pm news. - When driving watch out for cyclists as they may be riding 2 abreast ... why? why can they do that and take up all that space, last time I checked they are not a width of a vehicle and they do no pay road tax

Gongoozler

Jesus will it ever end

Lyaiera

I only ever cycle on my own so on occasion I cycle in the middle of the road to give that two abreast cyclist experience to drivers.

Talib Fiasco

Good afternoon to you Andy from Sligo and you're very welcome to Liveline.

kneemos

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I just watched the Rules of the Road advert on RTE1 before 9pm news. - When driving watch out for cyclists as they may be riding 2 abreast ... why? why can they do that and take up all that space, last time I checked they are not a width of a vehicle and they do no pay road tax

Car tax.

tigerboon

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I just watched the Rules of the Road advert on RTE1 before 9pm news. - When driving watch out for cyclists as they may be riding 2 abreast ... why? why can they do that and take up all that space, last time I checked they are not a width of a vehicle and they do no pay road tax

Should be made do a theory test!

Jawgap

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I just watched the Rules of the Road advert on RTE1 before 9pm news. - When driving watch out for cyclists as they may be riding 2 abreast ... why? why can they do that and take up all that space, last time I checked they are not a width of a vehicle and they do no pay road tax

Nobody pays 'road tax'

And the law allows cyclists to ride in that manner.

cajonlardo

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I just watched the Rules of the Road advert on RTE1 before 9pm news. - When driving watch out for cyclists as they may be riding 2 abreast ... why? why can they do that and take up all that space, last time I checked they are not a width of a vehicle and they do no pay road tax

Pass 2 abreast in half the time it takes to pass single line.

Really, if you are struggling with that basic concept, should you be driving?

Buzz Meeks

I saw a cyclist the other day and they didn't even have a bell on the bike.
Needless to say I reported the matter.

Jawgap

Gongoozler wrote: »

Jesus will it ever end

......apparently that's the exact thought motorists have when passing a group of cyclists in single file

wexandproud

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I just watched the Rules of the Road advert on RTE1 before 9pm news. - When driving watch out for cyclists as they may be riding 2 abreast ... why? why can they do that and take up all that space, last time I checked they are not a width of a vehicle and they do no pay road tax

f..k me here we go again ,, its part of the rules of the road can you not grasp that simple concept

Lyaiera

Buzz Meeks wrote: »

I saw a cyclist the other day and they didn't even have a bell on the bike.
Needless to say I reported the matter.

You can't have bells on racing bikes because of aerodynamics and they don't look good. It's the law.

Boom_Bap

HHmmmmmm, the last 2 threads recently didn't solve any cyclist/motorist issues.
I don't expect this one to either.

Streetwalker

Great start to the week on Monday. Sat at a red light on the motorbike on the way to work and Tour de France wanna be man just sailed past the red light only to be pulled over on the other side of the junction by a Gardaí on the beat. Was a thing of beauty.

keith16

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

and they do no pay road tax

Oooh, he card-reads good.

maxwell smart

Did I hear a minister on the radio today about new rules for cyclists?


Something about if they are caught on a footpath by a Garda they can be shot with a taser? Something like that?

Jawgap

Streetwalker wrote: »

Great start to the week on Monday. Sat at a red light on the motorbike on the way to work and Tour de France wanna be man just sailed past the red light only to be pulled over on the other side of the junction by a Gardaí on the beat. Was a thing of beauty.

Are all the TdF wannabes not in Utrecht for the 'Grand Depart'?

Probably a Tour of Poland wannabe you saw

libelula

People cycle two abreast to ensure that a motorist that wishes to overtake will be forced to do so properly, as if they're overtaking another car.
2/3/4 cyclists will often take up the 'shape of a car' to try to disuade cnuty drivers from forcing their way around them and potentially knocking them down.

We only have lycra to protect us, you get metal, so have some courtesy

Lyaiera

libelula wrote: »

We only have lycra to protect us, you get metal, so have some courtesy

Don't forget the bit of butt padding.

tigerboon

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

last time I checked they are not a width of a vehicle and they do no pay road tax

How often do you check this? What vehicle? Does road funding not come from central government therefore every one pays road tax? Has nobody thought of a thread on this before now?

foggy_lad

libelula wrote: »

We only have lycra to protect us, you get metal, so have some courtesy

Nobody is forcing anyone to go out in nothing but lycra, You could wear a suit of armour.

kneemos

libelula wrote: »

People cycle two abreast to ensure that a motorist that wishes to overtake will be forced to do so properly, as if they're overtaking another car.
2/3/4 cyclists will often take up the 'shape of a car' to try to disuade cnuty drivers from forcing their way around them and potentially knocking them down.

We only have lycra to protect us, you get metal, so have some courtesy

Like this?
Don't mean to be judgemental but I'd be embarrassed.

OldMrBrennan83

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cajonlardo

kneemos wrote: »

Like this?
Don't mean to be judgemental but I'd be embarrassed.

want to share how come you had that pic so handy?

Lyaiera

kneemos wrote: »

Like this?
Don't mean to be judgemental but I'd be embarrassed.

You really shouldn't be.

The Backwards Man

I have the definitive solution to all rules of the road threads. Just ban knobs.

Doesn't matter if you're driving a juggernaut, a wobbly box, a paddywagon, a jammer, a BMX or Shank's bleeding mare, if you're A knob, get off the fcuking road.

eternal

I was driving down a very steep, narrow hill and this single cyclist in front of me started weaving in and out all over the road. I couldn't over take him like that and I can't see how that fits into the rules of the road. What if I started driving from one side to the other? Egotistical bastard.

cajonlardo

eternal wrote: »

I was driving down a very steep, narrow hill and this single cyclist in front of me started weaving in and out all over the road. I couldn't over take him like that and I can't see how that fits into the rules of the road. What if I started driving from one side to the other? Egotistical bastard.

Not being a smart alec, but look up speed wobble/shimmy?

eternal

cajonlardo wrote: »

Not being a smart alec, but look up speed wobble/shimmy?

He was going all over the road though. Is that normal?

cajonlardo

eternal wrote: »

He was going all over the road though. Is that normal?

No , not at all.
But shimmy could explain it if it was on a downhill like you described.

Bongalongherb

Jezz, I don't understand the crying of drivers with cyclists, just overtake them and move on. I come across loads of cyclists on the road and back-roads every day and I don't see a problem. If I have to slow-down behind and wait till it's safe to overtake so be it, it's only a few seconds of my time, no big deal.

I have noticed the odd cyclist breaking red lights in Dublin city, but they are taking a chance with their life. Most cyclists I come across are grand, so I don't know why there is so much whining about them.

eternal

cajonlardo wrote: »

No , not at all.
But shimmy could explain it if it was on a downhill like you described.

This was an asshole in very professional gear milking the downhill experience and taking over the road, there was no way he didn't know I was behind him. I don't think it was a wobble, it wasn't that steep a hill.

cajonlardo

eternal wrote: »

This was an asshole in very professional gear milking the downhill experience and taking over the road, there was no way he didn't know I was behind him. I don't think it was a wobble, it wasn't that steep a hill.

fair enough, you were there and I was not.

Lyaiera

eternal wrote: »

I was driving down a very steep, narrow hill and this single cyclist...

eternal wrote: »

it wasn't that steep a hill.

Right there Ted.

Carlos Orange

Bongalongherb wrote: »

I have noticed the odd cyclist breaking red lights in Dublin city, but they are taking a chance with their life.

You mustn't get out much if you only see the odd cyclist breaking red lights.

eternal

cajonlardo wrote: »

fair enough, you were there and I was not.

I wasn't angry but it did bug me. The other thing I don't like is cyclists approaching towards you from the wrong side, breaking lights and with no regard whatsoever to lanes. The city is the worst for this.

kneemos

eternal wrote: »

This was an asshole in very professional gear milking the downhill experience and taking over the road, there was no way he didn't know I was behind him. I don't think it was a wobble, it wasn't that steep a hill.

Avoiding bad patches no doubt.
Don't think those rather expensive racing bikes like bumbs.

Merrion

Today is probably not the best day to be putting one of these threads up...

kneemos

Merrion wrote: »

Today is probably not the best day to be putting one of these threads up...

Uh?

cajonlardo

eternal wrote: »

I was driving down a very steep, narrow hill

eternal wrote: »

it wasn't that steep a hill.

Lyaiera wrote: »

Right there Ted.

eternal

cajonlardo wrote: »

Leave me alone, I have a sore ear

ThisRegard

Andy is either dumb, a troll, or a combination of the two.

kneemos

ThisRegard wrote: »

Andy is either dumb, a troll, or a combination of the two.

A trollub.

ThisRegard

kneemos wrote: »

Uh?

Because some scum bag killed a cyclist in a hit and run yesterday evening. But people will probably thinks that's great craic too.

Merrion

kneemos wrote: »

Uh?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cyclist-killed-in-dublin-hit-and-run-684545.html

KingBrian2

The cycling paths in some areas of the city are not good. Not the roadways but on the paths in which pedestrians constantly walk on it.

Lyaiera

It's a lose/lose situation. You cycle in the middle of the footpath and pedestrians give out. You cycle in the middle of the road and the drivers give out.

Carlos Orange

Lyaiera wrote: »

It's a lose/lose situation. You cycle in the middle of the footpath and pedestrians give out. You cycle in the middle of the road and the drivers give out.

Isn't one of those totally illegal. Probably best to avoid that one.

dirtyden

There are a lot more cyclists on the roads now and I think people just have to get used to it. In general cyclists are grand apart from the common breaking of red lights when they can.

I did come across a group of 5 cyclists taking up two lanes of the Dunkettle roundabout at rush hour as they went around towards the Midleton Road. They were really causing problems for traffic as they were slipping on to a road where there is no hard shoulder and they either had to get on to the slip road for Carraigtwohill or get into the main road towards Waterford midleton. It was not a road 5 cyclists should have been on at rush hour. I think this would be my only dig at cyclists is that some roads are really not suitable for cycling. These 5 guys may have made an honest mistake though and gone on a route they were not familiar with.

goz83

ThisRegard wrote: »

Because some scum bag killed a cyclist in a hit and run yesterday evening. But people will probably thinks that's great craic too.

Ah now here,...don't be lobbin that in here. Doesn't belong

Lyaiera

psinno wrote: »

Isn't one of those totally illegal. Probably best to avoid that one.

You'd think drivers would understand that, wouldn't you?