Great Dublin Bike Ride - Sunday 13th September **no entry requests/offers**

conkennedy

iancairns wrote: »

No not yet AFAIK

How do we know if you're within the first 1000? I registered ages ago and there's no indication of registration number....

Ryder

jon1981 wrote: »

I'd say a majority of those signing up probably only do one event a year ( maybe their first) and so 40euro is probably fine but for many seasoned cyclists that do multiple sportives, this is too much.

Agreed. Hard to shell out 40 euros for the chance of a t shirt and no charity contribution when many other sportives are about half that......With a charity aim. Far better to give a casual shirt to all entrants if you're going to do that kind of thing......way better than a medal.

That all said, in the us these kind of events are called gran fondos and routinely can cost 300 usd.

slowcyclist

Just catching up on this thread now; somehow details of the event had passed me by up until today. I'd share many of the concerns raised previously, and don't want to repeat them unnecessarily. My one new observation would be -

Many sportives around the country offer a discount for CI members (on the basis that insurance is already paid for). Strikes me as strange that an event organised by CI doesn't offer any discount for CI members.

The_Morrigan

slowcyclist wrote: »

Just catching up on this thread now; somehow details of the event had passed me by up until today. I'd share many of the concerns raised previously, and don't want to repeat them unnecessarily. My one new observation would be -

Many sportives around the country offer a discount for CI members (on the basis that insurance is already paid for). Strikes me as strange that an event organised by CI doesn't offer any discount for CI members.

Is it organised by CI? It mentions it's in conjunction with them and various others.

Beasty

From the website

The Irish Sports Council, in conjunction with Cycling Ireland has teamed up with the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport, Dublin City Council and Healthy Ireland

I am guessing it was initiated by the Sports Council as its part of Ireland's contribution to the European Sports Week and they probably approached the other organisations to lend support. It seems that CI have obliged by trying to round up the troops to help out with marshalling and also to request volunteer riders to help along the way. It may well be that CI had little say on pricing as it seems to me that the whole event is aimed at attracting people to participate in cycling, and it may not have gone down well if some kind of special deal was done for but only for CI members

slowcyclist

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Is it organised by CI? It mentions it's in conjunction with them and various others.

If not, then there are heavily involved.

• The e-mail I got yesterday came from Cycling Ireland, telling me there is only one month to go. I am on this e-mail distribution list because I am a member of Cycling Ireland, ( I have not given them any permission to share my personal details with anyone else, nor have they requested this permission).
• This email (Link to web version below) has a banner at the top where cycling Ireland is the only organisation mentioned. Cycling Ireland is then mentioned four more times in the artwork and body of the remainder of the mail. Their name is being heavily promoted;
• The same email contains a link to The Irish Spots council website. Click this link, go to the Sports Council website and hey presto - no mention of the Bike ride on the landing page. why, if CI are not behind this then someone is going to a lot of trouble to make it look like they are.

• https://emails.circulator.com/Content?ID=61408&q=2UJ891v8QOKKNWLuPhr5HtFXpg2u4IkU&s=YghxxZJH75cet3QGjmxyA//mLAdLWKfMOY/u/XMp94iuN30KQyWJbQ==

The_Morrigan

slowcyclist wrote: »

If not, then there are heavily involved.

• The e-mail I got yesterday came from Cycling Ireland, telling me there is only one month to go. I am on this e-mail distribution list because I am a member of Cycling Ireland, ( I have not given them any permission to share my personal details with anyone else, nor have they requested this permission).
• This email (Link to web version below) has a banner at the top where cycling Ireland is the only organisation mentioned. Cycling Ireland is then mentioned four more times in the artwork and body of the remainder of the mail. Their name is being heavily promoted;
• The same email contains a link to The Irish Spots council website. Click this link, go to the Sports Council website and hey presto - no mention of the Bike ride on the landing page. why, if CI are not behind this then someone is going to a lot of trouble to make it look like they are.

• https://emails.circulator.com/Content?ID=61408&q=2UJ891v8QOKKNWLuPhr5HtFXpg2u4IkU&s=YghxxZJH75cet3QGjmxyA//mLAdLWKfMOY/u/XMp94iuN30KQyWJbQ==

I don't know why, you could ask them?
I've been getting similar emails for months at this stage from another involved group,who are most definitely not running it but are heavily involved in one element - getting volunteers to work at the event.

cunavalos

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Is it organised by CI? It mentions it's in conjunction with them and various others.

I think it is safe to say to say CI are the promoting club of the event

Also they advertised a new position at the start of the year of Cycling Events Officer where one of the tasks was managing a new annual dublin based sportive.

conkennedy

If anyone's interested, I've re-worked the routes for Strava.

60Km Route: http://www.strava.com/routes/3115886

100Km Route: http://www.strava.com/routes/3115945

kerry4sam

conkennedy wrote: »

If anyone's interested, I've re-worked the routes for Strava.

60Km Route: http://www.strava.com/routes/3115886

100Km Route: http://www.strava.com/routes/3115945

Thanks for this, however, with me being me, could you Please correct the spelling of Dublin in the 60km route info link



Thanks,
kerry4sam

Orion

They really aren't making this easy to take part in.

• 8am start on a Sunday which means if you want to take a train or bus in to the start you're screwed so I'd have to add 26km to the 100km just to get there. With 1km of climbing on the route I'm not sure I'm up for that extra 26km before it even starts. Why such an early start on a Sunday? 10am would be normal for sportives of this distance.
• Registration on Saturday which means going in to Dublin twice in a weekend. Why not allow registration on Friday as well for people who work in the city and/or before the start. You can get someone to register on your behalf - but only with a photo ID - why not with my CI license? The person registering won't look like me so what difference does a photo make?
• Waved starts strictly enforced - so no guarantee that you'll start with your mates. Which means if I start in the 8am wave I'll stop on the quays and wait for mates that may happen to be in the 8:08 wave.
• And what do I get for my €40? A ride I could do any time I want and possibly a jersey which I don't need. All I ever wear are my boards and Galway Cycles ones. I could even factor in 3 food stops myself for less than half that. And none of this money goes to charity.

The more I look at this the more it just seems to be a money spinner for CI:

Also located in Smithfield around sign-on/number collection is the Great Dublin Bike Ride Expo. Here you can browse through the latest cycling gear and apparel, have your bike serviced or grab a bite to eat from some of the many local businesses in the Smithfield area. Some of the cycling world’s best known brands will be there so give yourself enough time before or after sign-on to have a good look around

So is this an event built around an expo or an expo built around an event?

I did have to laugh at this though:
08:00 1st Wave Start 100km
12:00 First 100k participant approx

I'd be hoping to finish in 4:30 and I'd be a lot slower than some people I know taking part - I'd be surprised if the first finishers are any later than 11:30.

conkennedy

kerry4sam wrote: »

....Please correct the spelling of Dublin in the 60km route info link
Thanks,
kerry4sam

Done!

ted1

Orion wrote: »

They really aren't making this easy to take part in.

• Registration on Saturday which means going in to Dublin twice in a weekend. Why not allow registration on Friday as well for people who work in the city and/or before the start. You can get someone to register on your behalf - but only with a photo ID - why not with my CI license? The person registering won't look like me so what difference does a photo make?
  .

just saw that, it is a bit ridiculous. Smithfield isn't the most accessible part of town, why not have it on the Friday in a better part of town so people can collect when there in town working.

Dcully

Orion wrote: »

They really aren't making this easy to take part in.

• 8am start on a Sunday which means if you want to take a train or bus in to the start you're screwed so I'd have to add 26km to the 100km just to get there. With 1km of climbing on the route I'm not sure I'm up for that extra 26km before it even starts. Why such an early start on a Sunday? 10am would be normal for sportives of this distance.
• Registration on Saturday which means going in to Dublin twice in a weekend. Why not allow registration on Friday as well for people who work in the city and/or before the start. You can get someone to register on your behalf - but only with a photo ID - why not with my CI license? The person registering won't look like me so what difference does a photo make?
• Waved starts strictly enforced - so no guarantee that you'll start with your mates. Which means if I start in the 8am wave I'll stop on the quays and wait for mates that may happen to be in the 8:08 wave.
• And what do I get for my €40? A ride I could do any time I want and possibly a jersey which I don't need. All I ever wear are my boards and Galway Cycles ones. I could even factor in 3 food stops myself for less than half that. And none of this money goes to charity.

The more I look at this the more it just seems to be a money spinner for CI:

So is this an event built around an expo or an expo built around an event?

I did have to laugh at this though:
08:00 1st Wave Start 100km
12:00 First 100k participant approx

I'd be hoping to finish in 4:30 and I'd be a lot slower than some people I know taking part - I'd be surprised if the first finishers are any later than 11:30.

Totally agree, its turned into an absolute joke, i had intended to ride it but they succeeded in making it just too awkward to be bothered.

schemingbohemia

I presume the early start is to stop the usual whingers (who were out in force when the Ironman event was on) from complaining about the ride bringing the city to a halt, but it does make it a lot trickier to use the train to get in, and it's hard to see if you can leave your bike locked safely near the start in Smithfield following registration.

I really doubt it's making any money for CI at all, I'd say they'll take a hit on it.

Rambling Man

I also find the Ring of Kerry fierce awkward to get to.

traprunner

I registered weeks ago for the 60km. Doing it on my own although I know I'll probably never be alone on it.

Einstein?

What's with the negativity towards this particular event :rolleyes:

I'm sure it'll be grand at the end of it all, and it does accommodate a lot of people living in Dublin city including myself.

With this event, I'll probably pop down to registration on the Saturday when I get a chance - likewise I'll pop down to the start line on Sunday morning on the bike (no car, or public transport required) from the comfort of my own house.

Compare the above to the likes of the ROK which you'd easily spend 200 quid just for 1 weekend.

As for the lack of charities? Well I'm all for charities, but I don't mind since this event will probably make a good impact on cycling in general, and will be one of the first to happen in the city.

I'd say to you... if you don't like it, don't cycle it :cool:

Kevincavan83

Einstein? wrote: »

What's with the negativity towards this particular event :rolleyes:

I'm sure it'll be grand at the end of it all, and it does accommodate a lot of people living in Dublin city including myself.

With this event, I'll probably pop down to registration on the Saturday when I get a chance - likewise I'll pop down to the start line on Sunday morning on the bike (no car, or public transport required) from the comfort of my own house.

Compare the above to the likes of the ROK which you'd easily spend 200 quid just for 1 weekend.

As for the lack of charities? Well I'm all for charities, but I don't mind since this event will probably make a good impact on cycling in general, and will be one of the first to happen in the city.

I'd say to you... if you don't like it, don't cycle it :cool:

The mater foundation are one of the charities involved.
If anyone is interested, they do a lot for heart screening cancer care and cardiology.

Orion

Kevincavan83 wrote: »

The mater foundation are one of the charities involved.
If anyone is interested, they do a lot for heart screening cancer care and cardiology.

From the FAQ:

The Great Dublin Bike Ride is not a charity event, we recognise that some participants may like to raise money for various charities.
While there is no obligation to raise money for charity, for participants that want to use this event to fundraise, they can do so by contacting the relevant charity directly

Some people may be doing for the Mater but that's on their own - the event isn't sponsoring any charity.

Kevincavan83

Orion wrote: »

From the FAQ:


Some people may be doing for the Mater but that's on their own - the event isn't sponsoring any charity.

I was not intentionally trying to say that they were an affiliated charity
I work in the hospital and they had put out an email looking for people who were interested in the cycle.

shaka

Initially this sounded like a good idea until I realised its on the same weekend as the Rebel tour which for me is one of the best cycles of the year.

Mercian Pro

For those of us who do a fair number of sportives, it's easy to be critical of some aspects of the Great Dublin Bike Ride. However, if it succeeds in getting a lot of cyclists out who might be a bit intimidated by sportives or not even know what they are, then it's a good thing IMHO.
Like Shaka, I'm off to West Cork that weekend both for the Rebel Tour and the Food Festival. What a combination!

easygoing39

Ive travelled to lots of sportiffs/charity rides around the country this year,that cost me petrol money to get too.This Dublin ride is on my doorstep,I can cycle to and from the event,and only be away from home for 6 hrs max,compared to 10 -12 hours for most of the other sportiffs/charity cycles I usually do.
However,Im not entering this as I feel Im being ripped off,and no one likes to be ripped off.
€40 is way too high,and the fact that a charity aint getting the entry fee doesn't soften the blow.
Plus the fact that Cycling Ireland is promoting it doesn't sit well with me either.Im forever trying to get friends to join CI,just the basic non racing membership,but they wont as they see no benefits,so how the hell will I get them to agree to a €40 entry fee for 1 day,on roads they can cycle for free any day of the week?
CI are missing an opportunity to get new members,make it €40 entry fee,but it also gives entrants the 1 year basic licence as well.And to even it up,charge current CI members €15-€20,give something back to existing members.

ted1

Kevincavan83 wrote: »

I was not intentionally trying to say that they were an affiliated charity
I work in the hospital and they had put out an email looking for people who were interested in the cycle.

You made it look like the cycle was officially collecting for the matter via the entrance money

Einstein?

Not only will it give a chance for the casual cyclists who is still on the fence about this cycling shenanigan to experience a sportive for the first time ever, but it will paint a positive picture for cyclists in the city that needs it most.

As I said earlier, I'm all for charities but nothing is stopping individuals or groups to pool together some spare change and support a charity of their choice.

Besides, I'm sure it's not free to organize for 1000+ cyclists to set about in tandem around the city.

As for the steep price of 40 quid? Well.... I'll give you my own experience to consider: I've started cycling at the start of this summer and love it. I've only done the leinster loop (130k) as my first sportive - that was 30 quid + around the same for a jersey. With this event, I paid 25 quid to do the 60k option, but will be upgrading to 100k since I'm now well capable of tackling this distance, and I'll be doing the equinox 260k the week after this event which cost 80. I could probably break down the price of these events and identify a couple of 'rip offs' here and there...... but at the end of the day, what's 40 quid in the grand scheme of things? 8 pints in Dublin if you're lucky? A dinner for two or one depending on what restaurant you fancy? A pair of jeans or a shirt to add to your bulging collection? The way I see it ... getting out on the bike with a group of people, 1000+, who share and enjoy the same hobby - that is cycling and all that comes with it you know this better than I do - that my friend, that is worth much more than 40 euro to me. It's priceless

Ryder

Einstein? wrote: »

As for the steep price of 40 quid? Well.... I'll give you my own experience to consider: I've started cycling at the start of this summer and love it. I've only done the leinster loop (130k) as my first sportive - that was 30 quid + around the same for a jersey. With this event, I paid 25 quid to do the 60k option, but will be upgrading to 100k since I'm now well capable of tackling this distance, and I'll be doing the equinox 260k the week after this event which cost 80. I could probably break down the price of these events and identify a couple of 'rip offs' here and there...... but at the end of the day, what's 40 quid in the grand scheme of things? 8 pints in Dublin if you're lucky? A dinner for two or one depending on what restaurant you fancy? A pair of jeans or a shirt to add to your bulging collection? The way I see it ... getting out on the bike with a group of people, 1000+, who share and enjoy the same hobby - that is cycling and all that comes with it you know this better than I do - that my friend, that is worth much more than 40 euro to me. It's priceless

The correct cost is what the market will bear so if 1000 plus want to pay 40e then why not charge it.....and why shouldn't CI make a profit. Time will tell but I think the organisers could do a bit better with value for money. I think medals are useless and for the same cost you could print a t shirt for every participant and not just the first 1000. All you have to do is look at how even small running g events are run to see how to attract a market

ted1

Ryder wrote: »

The correct cost is what the market will bear so if 1000 plus want to pay 40e then why not charge it.....and why shouldn't CI make a profit. Time will tell but I think the organisers could do a bit better with value for money. I think medals are useless and for the same cost you could print a t shirt for every participant and not just the first 1000. All you have to do is look at how even small running g events are run to see how to attract a market

I doubt they will make any profit. Road closures , gardai, marketing, insurance, organiser fees, food stops, etc all cost money

Qualitymark

Any mumbling old slowcoaches of bumbling cyclists from the Rathmines-Terenure-Kimmage axis thinking of doing this?

Beasty

Only just spotted this as it came up as a banner when I was logged out, but there is a Hosted thread here (hosted means it's not part of the Cycling forum), started by a verified CI rep covering this event

The_Morrigan

Beasty wrote: »

Only just spotted this as it came up as a banner when I was logged out, but there is a Hosted thread here (hosted means it's not part of the Cycling forum), started by a verified CI rep covering this event

Maybe the office could re-direct Garry here to answer the host of questions that have gone unanswered.

Beasty

I've already dropped the office a note about the fact that thread has been around since 13 August but no-one here knew about it. From a mods perspective I have no problem if the CI verified rep wishes to respond to any questions raised in this thread

youwhoglue

So Strava route says 100k is ~1,000m climbing. The GDBR site says 750m, via Ride with GPS.

Which is correct?

Rambling Man

youwhoglue wrote: »

So Strava route says 100k is ~1,000m climbing. The GDBR site says 750m, via Ride with GPS.

Which is correct?

Cycle it and find out

Pudsy33

Doing the 100 km route, and it'll be my first sportive. I'm excited for it but I've never done anything of this length before and it'll probably kill me!

gaffmaster

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Doing the 100 km route, and it'll be my first sportive. I'm excited for it but I've never done anything of this length before and it'll probably kill me!

You'll be fine. Keep the legs spinning lightly, stay hydrated and feed yourself well.

You might be surprised how much easier it is to cycle long distances when in a group. Have fun.

Leroy42

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Doing the 100 km route, and it'll be my first sportive. I'm excited for it but I've never done anything of this length before and it'll probably kill me!

As gaffmaster said, you'll be fine, having all the others around you makes the Km's tick along.

Of course, once you've done this you'll be looking for the next challenge and then you'll find yourself sucked into the world of cycling.

Then you'll be just like the rest of us!!!!Muhahahahaha etctetctc...

fillup

youwhoglue wrote: »

So Strava route says 100k is ~1,000m climbing. The GDBR site says 750m, via Ride with GPS.

Which is correct?

When you'er riding it hope for the 750m but when you're retelling your epic feat to your friends it was 1000m+

conkennedy

youwhoglue wrote: »

So Strava route says 100k is ~1,000m climbing. The GDBR site says 750m, via Ride with GPS.

Which is correct?

Does it matter?

It's not like it's stage 11 of La Vuelta!
😂

Qualitymark

Was talking to someone the other evening who said he was doing the 60k rather than 100k because it had better climbs.

oconnpad

Qualitymark wrote: »

Was talking to someone the other evening who said he was doing the 60k rather than 100k because it had better climbs.

There's no real climbing on the 60k route, the 100k has a few between the 40km-65km mark

kerry4sam

Please Assist:

I asked here but wondered where you are all watching La Vuelta Finale.

The final stage will be on the same day as this.
Finish Your Cycle.
Lock Your Bikes.
Find the Best Sports Bar.

Support Nico Roche Completing La Vuelta 2015

Many Thanks,
kerry4sam

OldBean

kerry4sam wrote: »

Please Assist:

I asked here but wondered where you are all watching La Vuelta Finale.

The final stage will be on the same day as this.
Finish Your Cycle.
Lock Your Bikes.
Find the Best Sports Bar.

Support Nico Roche Completing La Vuelta 2015

Many Thanks,
kerry4sam

The Back Page, less than a 10 minute walk, or a 5 minute cycle up Constitution Hill might be your best bet. Though I'd say email/contact them on Facebook and see if you can book a table/tv with it on.

Then pizza.

neris

kerry4sam wrote: »

Please Assist:

I asked here but wondered where you are all watching La Vuelta Finale.

The final stage will be on the same day as this.
Finish Your Cycle.
Lock Your Bikes.
Find the Best Sports Bar.

Support Nico Roche Completing La Vuelta 2015

Many Thanks,
kerry4sam

dont forget the hurling final is on sunday so places may not b that keen to show cycling on tv

traprunner

kerry4sam wrote: »

Please Assist:

I asked here but wondered where you are all watching La Vuelta Finale.

The final stage will be on the same day as this.
Finish Your Cycle.
Lock Your Bikes.
Find the Best Sports Bar.

Support Nico Roche Completing La Vuelta 2015

Many Thanks,
kerry4sam

These might show it on one of their many screens.
The Living Room
Cathal Brugha St,
Dublin 1

Rambling Man

neris wrote: »

dont forget the hurling final is on sunday so places may not b that keen to show cycling on tv

Wow, they've arranged the replay already?

The Great Dublin Bike RaceRide is on the 13th.

Eamonnator

There was a sponsored thread on Boards.ie It appears to be gone.
What happened?

Beasty

Eamonnator wrote: »

There was a sponsored thread on Boards.ie It appears to be gone.
What happened?

It's here

Think there's been some confusion over its location. It's always been in "Hosted" and that's the only place I found it except when logged out when it appeared as a banner thread in the Cycling forum

I presume you accessed via the banner?

Eamonnator

Beasty wrote: »

It's here

Think there's been some confusion over its location. It's always been in "Hosted" and that's the only place I found it except when logged out when it appeared as a banner thread in the Cycling forum

I presume you accessed via the banner?

Until this morning, When I opened Boards cycling forum, it was on the top of the page. This morning, it was gone.

Thanks for redirect.

Stevo1983

Signed up for the 60k spin yesterday. Nice little break away from marathon training.