pregnant woman was attacked, purely to kill her baby

newmug

What the fluck is wrong with people:mad::mad::mad:

Basically, a pregnant woman was attacked, purely to kill her baby. She was repeatedly kicked in the stomach by two masked men, who didn't rob her money or beat her anywhere other than the stomach. Sick, sick, batsards.


http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0617/708880-pregnant-woman-loses-baby-after-street-attack/

Riddle101

Very strange, if not a tad bit suspicious. Sad to hear nonetheless.

Sid_Lucious

very disturbing story indeed.
i wonder if she knows them. my guess is she does and there's "history" there.

LadyFenghuang

My mother had her purse robbed when she was pregnant with my brother. I was a toddler with her.

But nothing like this. This is shocking.

LadyFenghuang

That's disgusting I actually feel sick.

To think there are people like this out there, sick bastards

AlekSmart

Sid_Lucious wrote: »

Very disturbing story indeed.
I wonder if she knows them. My guess is she does and there's "history" there.

I wonder if the principle of "Honour Killing" will surface in this case ?

Many accounts exist of the rise in this barbarity amongst sectors of the UK population,which remain impervious to any attempts to convince them of it's evil.

Humanity indeed ? :mad:

Sid_Lucious

AlekSmart wrote: »

I wonder if the principle of "Honour Killing" will surface in this case ?

Many accounts exist of the rise in this barbarity amongst sectors of the UK population,which remain impervious to any attempts to convince them of it's evil.

Humanity indeed ? :mad:

i was thinking along the same lines. maybe she brought "shame on her family"?

NachoBusiness

The laws need to be changed in the UK so anyone that kills unborn babies can be charged with murder / manslaughter.

conorh91

I hope pro-life advocates will not liken this to abortion, since the mother of the unborn child had presumably intended to continue with her pregnancy, and that would be utterly inappropriate.

Nevertheless, the selective use of the terms "baby" and "child" in the media and online coverage are indicative of a certain hypocrisy.

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

Ayls

Even worse they waited over an hour and the ambulance (which had been called immediately) still hadn't arrived so police officers had to put her in their car and take her themselves ! An hour - wonder if the child could have survived. The ambulance service are looking into it, not good. I think someone has already been arrested and it amazes me how they could even think they would get away with this. It's strange how they never see shame in this kind of behaviour.

newmug

conorh91 wrote: »

I hope pro-life advocates will not liken this to abortion, since the mother of the unborn child had presumably intended to continue with her pregnancy, and that would be utterly inappropriate.

Nevertheless, the selective use of the terms "baby" and "child" in the media and online coverage are indicative of a certain hypocrisy.

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

Its either ok to kill a human unborn child / human clump of cells, or its not. This is a tragedy for the mother and child, don't bring it into the gutter, just don't.

KKkitty

This is one of the most sick and twisted stories I've seen. Whatever happened a pregnant woman didn't deserve an attack like this and to lose her baby. I can only wish the worst for the scum that did this to her and her unborn baby. I'd go as far as to wish they find out they're sterile so they'll never reproduce.

conorh91

newmug wrote: »

Its either ok to kill a human unborn child / human clump of cells, or its not.

I'm simply saying it's hypocritical to designate one unborn a foetus, and the other a child, depending on whether they were wanted.

KKkitty

conorh91 wrote: »

I hope pro-life advocates will not liken this to abortion, since the mother of the unborn child had presumably intended to continue with her pregnancy, and that would be utterly inappropriate.

Nevertheless, the selective use of the terms "baby" and "child" in the media and online coverage are indicative of a certain hypocrisy.

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

As a woman who's experienced an ectopic pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage whether planned or not you'd never think of a baby as being a clump of cells. No matter what if you think of continuing with a pregnancy you'd think of the human being growing inside of you as being your baby, your child.

conorh91

KKkitty wrote: »

As a woman who's experienced an ectopic pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage whether planned or not you'd never think of a baby as being a clump of cells.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, and I can only sympathize with your experience; my point is that many 'online presences' would seem to disagree.

bodice ripper

I feel "I want to talk about abortion again" would have been a more appropriate thread title.

obplayer

Can we focus please on what seems to have been a determined attack on a pregnant woman? Do we have any idea why this occurred?

RedemptionZ

Disgusting thing to do, however as others have said, it seems very likely she knew her attackers. If they're scumbags off the street who picked her at random, they'll rob her, and probably would've gotten a few kicks to the face.

KKkitty

conorh91 wrote: »

I wholeheartedly agree with you, and I can only sympathize with your experience; my point is that many 'online presences' would seem to disagree.

I know and the fact that some would disagree is saddening. This was obviously a premeditated attack though. It's disgusting to think anyone could get in that frame of mind to do something like this.

obplayer

bodice ripper wrote: »

I feel "I want to talk about abortion again" would have been a more appropriate thread title.

WTF?

c_man

What kind of lowlife...

newmug

bodice ripper wrote: »

I feel "I want to talk about abortion again" would have been a more appropriate thread title.

Come on missus, don't. Start a new thread if you want to, but don't lower this one. Just, just don't.

conorh91

conorh91 wrote: »

I hope pro-life advocates will not liken this to abortion, since the mother of the unborn child had presumably intended to continue with her pregnancy, and that would be utterly inappropriate.

Nevertheless, the selective use of the terms "baby" and "child" in the media and online coverage are indicative of a certain hypocrisy.

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

Why do people on boards say * I hope insert crazy argument in here * people don't say this. Wait for people to say something messed up because there is a good chance they wont. Basically you are the first person to bring this argument up in this thread. So the argument you hope people wouldn't bring up, you in fact, brought up!

bodice ripper

obplayer wrote: »

WTF?

Sorry, I forgot proper protocol.

"Thinly veiled abortion thread"

Better?

greenfrogs

conorh91 wrote: »

I'm simply saying it's hypocritical to designate one unborn a foetus, and the other a child, depending on whether they were wanted.

I think you are being pedantic about it. Whether the mother considers an unwanted pregnancy a fetus/baby/clump of cells doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters if the child is wanted or not.

What a sad and horrific story. The poor woman. It is shocking that it took so long for her to reach the hospital. Maybe it could of been a different outcome if she received medical treatment earlier.

obplayer

bodice ripper wrote: »

Sorry, I forgot proper protocol.

"Thinly veiled abortion thread"

Better?

No.

What has a woman being kicked by thugs got to do with abortion? Putting you on ignore.

KKkitty

bodice ripper wrote: »

Sorry, I forgot proper protocol.

"Thinly veiled abortion thread"

Better?

Who mentioned abortion in the first place??

conorh91

Deleted User wrote: »

Why do people on boards say * I hope insert crazy argument in here * people don't say this.

People on boards.ie regularly refer to unborn children as a clump of cells.

greenfrogs wrote: »

Whether the mother considers an unwanted pregnancy a fetus/baby/clump of cells doesn't really matter.

I happen to agree. The mother's view is paramount, and I didn't claim otherwise.

It's the dogmatic insistence that the unborn is a mere clump of cells that I have a problem with.

bodice ripper

newmug wrote: »

Come on missus, don't. Start a new thread if you want to, but don't lower this one. Just, just don't.

Surely you jest?

You started a thread about an attack. By your first reply within in the thread you were soapboxing about abortion. It was pretty low in here already.

Herpes Cineplex

conorh91 wrote: »

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

Depending on the convenience of it all of course.

But what a horrific thing to happen to the poor woman. Now maybe it's the cynic in me, but I hope the police rule out the father as a suspect.

conorh91

conorh91 wrote: »

People on boards.ie regularly refer to unborn children as a clump of cells.

I happen to agree. The mother's view is paramount, and I didn't claim otherwise.

It's the dogmatic insistence that the unborn is a mere clump of cells that I have a problem with.

At an very early stage they are a clump of cells. This child was nearly fuarking due, there is a biiiig difference there. Your argument about abortion is not relevant to this thread, please please please don't drag this thread into a thread about abortion because there is loads of places on here you can discuss this.

me_right_one

bodice ripper wrote: »

Surely you jest?

You started a thread about an attack. By your first reply within in the thread you were soapboxing about abortion. It was pretty low in here already.

You have problems.

conorh91

Deleted User wrote: »

At an very early stage they are a clump of cells. This child was nearly fuarking due, there is a biiiig difference there.

There is indeed. I find your position very sensible; I only wish all pro-choice people agreed with it.

KKkitty

bodice ripper wrote: »

Surely you jest?

You started a thread about an attack. By your first reply within in the thread you were soapboxing about abortion. It was pretty low in here already.

How was there soapboxing about abortion in the first reply? The lines are severely blurred on your end.

obplayer

KKkitty wrote: »

How was there soapboxing about abortion in the first reply? The lines are severely blurred on your end.

I thought this was a thread about a pregnant woman who got brutally attacked and beaten?

conorh91

conorh91 wrote: »

There is indeed. I find your position very sensible; I only wish all pro-choice people agreed with it.

Point being this thread is about a horrible attack. Go argue abortion in the abortion thread.

bodice ripper

Am i reading a different thread than everyone else? Its an abortion thread.

KKkitty

obplayer wrote: »

I thought this was a thread about a pregnant woman who got brutally attacked and beaten?

It is just that but this baby was obviously wanted by the mother which makes it harrowing.

conorh91

Deleted User wrote: »

Go argue abortion in the abortion thread.

Are you moderating this thread?

The answer to that question is No.

I am simply questioning when an unborn is suddenly a "baby".

This child was obviously wanted. We all agree it was a baby. Right?

greenfrogs

At least Scotland Yard said they are treating it as akin to murder. It's pretty bad though that they have included her name and the daily mail have photos up of the woman. I just can't understand how 2 people could be so cruel.

NachoBusiness

https://twitter.com/Daily_Express/status/611216106867589120

obplayer

NachoBusiness wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Daily_Express/status/611216106867589120

Shall we ask whether 'cultural sensitivities' had any part in this?

twowheelsonly

bodice ripper wrote: »

Am i reading a different thread than everyone else? Its an abortion thread.

Obviously you are.
Read the thread title. Read the first post.
It's pretty obvious that this is a thread about a vile attack on a pregnant woman and her unborn child by pure scum.
It's a million miles from an abortion thread.

bodice ripper

twowheelsonly wrote: »

Obviously you are.
Read the thread title. Read the first post.
It's pretty obvious that this is a thread about a vile attack on a pregnant woman and her unborn child by pure scum.
It's a million miles from an abortion thread.

It doesnt seem to me that that is the thread's purpose. I could be wrong.

conorh91

conorh91 wrote: »

Are you moderating this thread?

The answer to that question is No.

I am simply questioning when an unborn is suddenly a "baby".

This child was obviously wanted. We all agree it was a baby. Right?

Where in the above posts did anyone argue it wasn't a baby? This is not a thread on abortion, this is a thread on a horrible attack.

I am not moderating this thread but that doesn't make you right.

Summer wind

You know I wish I could say I'm shocked by this attack. But every day you get up and turn on the news and just when you think people can't get any more evil you hear this. This is a horrible evil attack on a young girl and her completely innocent unborn baby. What kind of sub human scum does this.

conorh91

Deleted User wrote: »

Where in the above posts did anyone argue it wasn't a baby?

This is a fairly new thread. Nobody said it occurred in this thread; rather, it is common on threads on AH regarding the unborn for people to argue that unborn children are mere clumps of cells, or to deny that they are 'babies', or to deny that they have mothers

Orindarily. many people prefer to believe that the unborn may not be babies, and that they may not have "mothers".

conorh91

conorh91 wrote: »

This is a fairly new thread. Nobody said it occurred in this thread; rather, it is common on threads on AH regarding the unborn for people to argue that unborn children are mere clumps of cells, or to deny that they are 'babies'.

So...... what you are saying is you were the first poster on this thread to bring up the abortion topic?

Please go to the abortion thread and argue your point there.

conorh91

Deleted User wrote: »

go to the abortion thread and argue your point there.

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conorh91

conorh91 wrote: »

Dear Candidate

Applications for moderator positions are not accepted at this address.

No interested in being a moderator and I'm not even trying to moderate. It's just no need to post abortion crap in a thread discussing a horrible assault, one has nothing to do with the other.