pregnant woman was attacked, purely to kill her baby

newmug · 18-06-2015 12:44AM #1

What the fluck is wrong with people:mad::mad::mad:

Basically, a pregnant woman was attacked, purely to kill her baby. She was repeatedly kicked in the stomach by two masked men, who didn't rob her money or beat her anywhere other than the stomach. Sick, sick, batsards.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0617/708880-pregnant-woman-loses-baby-after-street-attack/

Riddle101 · 18-06-2015 12:53AM

Very strange, if not a tad bit suspicious. Sad to hear nonetheless.

Sid_Lucious · 18-06-2015 12:55AM

very disturbing story indeed.
i wonder if she knows them. my guess is she does and there's "history" there.

LadyFenghuang · 18-06-2015 12:55AM

My mother had her purse robbed when she was pregnant with my brother. I was a toddler with her.

But nothing like this. This is shocking.

LadyFenghuang · 18-06-2015 12:56AM

That's disgusting I actually feel sick.

18-06-2015 12:57AM

To think there are people like this out there, sick bastards

AlekSmart · 18-06-2015 12:59AM

Sid_Lucious wrote: »

Very disturbing story indeed.
I wonder if she knows them. My guess is she does and there's "history" there.

I wonder if the principle of "Honour Killing" will surface in this case ?

Many accounts exist of the rise in this barbarity amongst sectors of the UK population,which remain impervious to any attempts to convince them of it's evil.

Humanity indeed ? :mad:

Sid_Lucious · 18-06-2015 01:05AM

AlekSmart wrote: »

I wonder if the principle of "Honour Killing" will surface in this case ?

Many accounts exist of the rise in this barbarity amongst sectors of the UK population,which remain impervious to any attempts to convince them of it's evil.

Humanity indeed ? :mad:

i was thinking along the same lines. maybe she brought "shame on her family"?

NachoBusiness · 18-06-2015 01:14AM

The laws need to be changed in the UK so anyone that kills unborn babies can be charged with murder / manslaughter.

conorh91 · 18-06-2015 01:14AM

I hope pro-life advocates will not liken this to abortion, since the mother of the unborn child had presumably intended to continue with her pregnancy, and that would be utterly inappropriate.

Nevertheless, the selective use of the terms "baby" and "child" in the media and online coverage are indicative of a certain hypocrisy.

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

Ayls · 18-06-2015 01:16AM

Even worse they waited over an hour and the ambulance (which had been called immediately) still hadn't arrived so police officers had to put her in their car and take her themselves ! An hour - wonder if the child could have survived. The ambulance service are looking into it, not good. I think someone has already been arrested and it amazes me how they could even think they would get away with this. It's strange how they never see shame in this kind of behaviour.

newmug · 18-06-2015 01:30AM

conorh91 wrote: »

I hope pro-life advocates will not liken this to abortion, since the mother of the unborn child had presumably intended to continue with her pregnancy, and that would be utterly inappropriate.

Nevertheless, the selective use of the terms "baby" and "child" in the media and online coverage are indicative of a certain hypocrisy.

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

Its either ok to kill a human unborn child / human clump of cells, or its not. This is a tragedy for the mother and child, don't bring it into the gutter, just don't.

KKkitty · 18-06-2015 01:38AM

This is one of the most sick and twisted stories I've seen. Whatever happened a pregnant woman didn't deserve an attack like this and to lose her baby. I can only wish the worst for the scum that did this to her and her unborn baby. I'd go as far as to wish they find out they're sterile so they'll never reproduce.

conorh91 · 18-06-2015 01:40AM

newmug wrote: »

Its either ok to kill a human unborn child / human clump of cells, or its not.

I'm simply saying it's hypocritical to designate one unborn a foetus, and the other a child, depending on whether they were wanted.

KKkitty · 18-06-2015 01:44AM

conorh91 wrote: »

I hope pro-life advocates will not liken this to abortion, since the mother of the unborn child had presumably intended to continue with her pregnancy, and that would be utterly inappropriate.

Nevertheless, the selective use of the terms "baby" and "child" in the media and online coverage are indicative of a certain hypocrisy.

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

As a woman who's experienced an ectopic pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage whether planned or not you'd never think of a baby as being a clump of cells. No matter what if you think of continuing with a pregnancy you'd think of the human being growing inside of you as being your baby, your child.

conorh91 · 18-06-2015 01:50AM

KKkitty wrote: »

As a woman who's experienced an ectopic pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage whether planned or not you'd never think of a baby as being a clump of cells.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, and I can only sympathize with your experience; my point is that many 'online presences' would seem to disagree.

bodice ripper · 18-06-2015 01:53AM

I feel "I want to talk about abortion again" would have been a more appropriate thread title.

obplayer · 18-06-2015 01:54AM

Can we focus please on what seems to have been a determined attack on a pregnant woman? Do we have any idea why this occurred?

RedemptionZ · 18-06-2015 01:54AM

Disgusting thing to do, however as others have said, it seems very likely she knew her attackers. If they're scumbags off the street who picked her at random, they'll rob her, and probably would've gotten a few kicks to the face.

KKkitty · 18-06-2015 01:56AM

conorh91 wrote: »

I wholeheartedly agree with you, and I can only sympathize with your experience; my point is that many 'online presences' would seem to disagree.

I know and the fact that some would disagree is saddening. This was obviously a premeditated attack though. It's disgusting to think anyone could get in that frame of mind to do something like this.

obplayer · 18-06-2015 01:56AM

bodice ripper wrote: »

I feel "I want to talk about abortion again" would have been a more appropriate thread title.

WTF?

c_man · 18-06-2015 01:56AM

What kind of lowlife...

newmug · 18-06-2015 01:58AM

bodice ripper wrote: »

I feel "I want to talk about abortion again" would have been a more appropriate thread title.

Come on missus, don't. Start a new thread if you want to, but don't lower this one. Just, just don't.

18-06-2015 01:58AM

conorh91 wrote: »

I hope pro-life advocates will not liken this to abortion, since the mother of the unborn child had presumably intended to continue with her pregnancy, and that would be utterly inappropriate.

Nevertheless, the selective use of the terms "baby" and "child" in the media and online coverage are indicative of a certain hypocrisy.

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

Why do people on boards say * I hope insert crazy argument in here * people don't say this. Wait for people to say something messed up because there is a good chance they wont. Basically you are the first person to bring this argument up in this thread. So the argument you hope people wouldn't bring up, you in fact, brought up!

bodice ripper · 18-06-2015 02:00AM

obplayer wrote: »

WTF?

Sorry, I forgot proper protocol.

"Thinly veiled abortion thread"

Better?

greenfrogs · 18-06-2015 02:00AM

conorh91 wrote: »

I'm simply saying it's hypocritical to designate one unborn a foetus, and the other a child, depending on whether they were wanted.

I think you are being pedantic about it. Whether the mother considers an unwanted pregnancy a fetus/baby/clump of cells doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters if the child is wanted or not.

What a sad and horrific story. The poor woman. It is shocking that it took so long for her to reach the hospital. Maybe it could of been a different outcome if she received medical treatment earlier.

obplayer · 18-06-2015 02:03AM

bodice ripper wrote: »

Sorry, I forgot proper protocol.

"Thinly veiled abortion thread"

Better?

No.

What has a woman being kicked by thugs got to do with abortion? Putting you on ignore.

KKkitty · 18-06-2015 02:03AM

bodice ripper wrote: »

Sorry, I forgot proper protocol.

"Thinly veiled abortion thread"

Better?

Who mentioned abortion in the first place??

conorh91 · 18-06-2015 02:04AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why do people on boards say * I hope insert crazy argument in here * people don't say this.

People on boards.ie regularly refer to unborn children as a clump of cells.

greenfrogs wrote: »

Whether the mother considers an unwanted pregnancy a fetus/baby/clump of cells doesn't really matter.

I happen to agree. The mother's view is paramount, and I didn't claim otherwise.

It's the dogmatic insistence that the unborn is a mere clump of cells that I have a problem with.

bodice ripper · 18-06-2015 02:05AM

newmug wrote: »

Come on missus, don't. Start a new thread if you want to, but don't lower this one. Just, just don't.

Surely you jest?

You started a thread about an attack. By your first reply within in the thread you were soapboxing about abortion. It was pretty low in here already.

Herpes Cineplex · 18-06-2015 02:06AM

conorh91 wrote: »

Perhaps an unborn is a baby when it is wanted, and a mere clump of cells when it is not.

Depending on the convenience of it all of course.

But what a horrific thing to happen to the poor woman. Now maybe it's the cynic in me, but I hope the police rule out the father as a suspect.

pregnant woman was attacked, purely to kill her baby

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