What should Ireland have?

the groutch

maximoose wrote: »

Dunkin Donuts.

there used to be one, but they were dumb enough to put it on Grafton Street.
no chance they were ever going to cover Grafton St. rents selling donuts.

Yeah I saw the holes in their plan from day 1.

Sorry - I will get my coating.

jimgoose

Taco Bell. I wants burritos, and I wants 'em now.

draiochtanois

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galljga1

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I was in Cyprus years ago and there was a lovely crepe restaurant. You could buy crepes covered in all types of syrup or chocolate sauce. They had lovely flavoured tea as well. The restaurant also had loads of boards games to play.

It was weird at night to see a load of sixteen to nineteen year olds in this restaurant sitting down eating pancakes and playing Monopoly as opposed to here where getting drunk, pissing against someones house and puking your guts up on the footpath is the done thing.

Ireland should have places like this. Not necessarily crepe shops but some other option for young people to socialise that doesn't involve drinking copious amounts of alcohol.

Yeah, similar in Crete except it was gyros instead of crepes.

Reoil

British flags on every bloody lamp post.

GAAman

the groutch wrote: »

there used to be one, but they were dumb enough to put it on Grafton Street.
no chance they were ever going to cover Grafton St. rents selling donuts.

There was one in Rathmines too, 99p for two donuts and a tea or coffee. Always got the double chocolate one and custard one unreal!

Seafood resetaurants.

Seafood takeaways by the sea side.

Seafood generally.

We are an island. Why is seafood so expensive, and why is it not part of our history?

I read a book on medieval history once which showed that Ireland has never had a fond relationship with seafood, not even after food preservation techniques were acquired.

Skibbereen was a mortality black-spot during the Great Famine. 10,000 bodies are buried in its famine cemetary, despite the fact that the fish were jumping out of the river and conditions were suitable for fishing.

Why does Ireland not have a seafood culture?

Rakish Paddy

A properly integrated public transport system in Dublin, including an underground and a station at the airport.

A "three strikes" policy for violent criminals that would see them taken off the streets and locked up for a long time.

Streets where the footpaths are covered by buildings overhead, a la Bologna in Italy.

A system of standing to one side on escalators while allowing others to walk on the other side. Go to Dundrum shopping centre some weekend and see why this is needed! To call using those conveyor belts a frustrating experience would be a massive understatement.

Walking on a particular side of the footpath to prevent collisions/people being forced off the path - I remember in a particular city in Canada people observed an unwritten rule to walk on the right hand side, similar to driving on a road, and it worked very nicely. Dublin could really benefit from this.

Hills30

Hills30 wrote: »

What should Ireland have?

Cheaper brazzers. Absolute rip at the minute!

CJhaughey

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Seafood resetaurants.



Skibbereen was a mortality black-spot during the Great Famine. 10,000 bodies are buried in its famine cemetary, despite the fact that the fish were jumping out of the river and conditions were suitable for fishing.

Thousands died because they didn't own the fish or the rivers that held them.
And were not allowed to catch the fish.
The Famine wasn't from lack of food it was genocide.
Ireland was exporting food at the same time as the famine.
Hard to explain that one.

CJhaughey

CJhaughey wrote: »

Thousands died because they didn't own the fish or the rivers that held them.
And were not allowed to catch the fish.

I'm not talking about helping themselves. I'm asking why the resource was not exploited, or where it was, why it was not availed of. Even Cecil Woodham Smith, although she was critical of the British establishment in her book The Great Hunger, admits that sometimes it was difficult to shift fish!

Unbelievable.

Even fishermen sold their fish for potatoes. There was a cult of the potato.

Undoubtedly the potato is nutritious, but traditional aversion to seafood is difficult to explain.

Ireland had wood for boat-building, had seas and rivers full of fish. Aside from turf, they were our only natural resources. To abandon them during and worse, after, a famine, speaks volumes. You have to wonder about people.

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A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I'm not talking about helping themselves. I'm asking why the resource was not exploited, or where it was, why it was not availed of. Even Cecil Woodham Smith, although she was critical of the British establishment in her book The Great Hunger, admits that sometimes it was difficult to shift fish!

Unbelievable.

Even fishermen sold their fish for potatoes. There was a cult of the potato.

Undoubtedly the potato is nutritious, but traditional aversion to seafood is difficult to explain.

Ireland had wood for boat-building, had seas and rivers full of fish. Aside from turf, they were our only natural resources. To abandon them during and worse, after, a famine, speaks volumes. You have to wonder about people.

Maybe they didn't like the taste?

barryfitz

MONORAIL!

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Marcos Icy Gazebo wrote: »

Maybe they didn't like the taste?

Famine probably tastes worse. :pac:

languagenerd

maximoose wrote: »

Dunkin Donuts.

We had them in the 90s and they closed down!

topper75

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Seafood resetaurants.

Skibbereen was a mortality black-spot during the Great Famine. 10,000 bodies are buried in its famine cemetary, despite the fact that the fish were jumping out of the river and conditions were suitable for fishing.

Why does Ireland not have a seafood culture?

Fish are not a year-round source. Eels or game fish like salmon would be gone back down by the time it became apparent that the spuds had failed. Herring is seasonal. And in small boats you have short weather windows. Building boats in a land with little timber but that belonged to the landlord is not easy. You can't airdry fish in a damp climate to preserve them. Turf smoke is not appropriate. Shellfish was perceived to be dicey, good reason too when you consider C19th waste management practices. The RC convention with Fridays, being meat free, meant fish was looked down upon as a sackcloth and ashes substitute to 'real' food.

I love seafood myself. Then again, my lot obviously survived and got to stay here!
Anyway, back to 2015 in Ireland: we need an IMAX. School tours for docus etc. would keep it commercially viable.

jester77

Amenities with things for kids to do

You always hear about people having trouble with the kids loitering around shops or outside their house in their estates and being a hassle. Here if they build a new estate, they build things for the kids to do. There were 2 parks built as part of the estate I live in, 1 for the smaller kids with swings, slides, rope climbing, etc and another for bigger kids where they can skate.

ClovenHoof

psinno wrote: »

They also have twice the GDP Ireland does.

They started building it in the 1920s.

If we are going to play that game then look at all the Eastern European cities with metros...

Dublin should have an underground rail network. In fact, not having one is holding the city back...

topper75

topper75 wrote: »

Fish are not a year-round source.

But Ireland did have fisheries and as I mentioned earlier, there are historical reports of them having difficulty in getting rid of their fish.

My second criticism is that fishing infrastructure was not developed after the famine, or as soon as the over-reliance on the potato cult was beyond dispute.

Building boats in a land with little timber but that belonged to the landlord is not easy.

The land that raised potatoes belonged to the landowners too, not the tenant farmers. There seems to have been zero entrepreneurial interest in fish, not only from landowners, but from wealthy tenants and merchants generally, who must have been aware of the 'salmon falls; the mackeral-crowded seas' all around them.

You can't airdry fish in a damp climate to preserve them. Turf smoke is not appropriate.

None of this posed a problem for the Scots, who have been smoking and preserving fish for centuries.

For Forks Sake

barryfitz wrote: »

MONORAIL!

That's really more a Shelbyville kind of thing.

Pinch Flat

A roof over it. Constant temperature of 25 degrees Celcius.

Wurzelbert

kneemos wrote: »

We don't have major cities.

true, but dublin could use a wee underground...though that would probably only turn into a major scumbag magnet...bad enough on the luas up on top and in daylight already...

bodhi085

Decent broadband in rural areas with more than one bar signal.

Fred Swanson

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cloud493

Cheaper fast food.

Grayson

For Forks Sake wrote: »

That's really more a Shelbyville Cork kind of thing.

fyp

endacl

maximoose wrote: »

Dunkin Donuts.

We had those. They didn't last. Because they're crap.

happinessfr

Better quality fast food.

Fast food doesn't necessarily be cheap and bad quality.

someone please bring in my favourite Japanese food chain - MOS Burger!

tayto lover

Proper public toilets in our cities and large towns.