N5 - Ballaghaderreen to Scramoge [underway]

plodder

Some sleepy little towns are about to get a lot sleepier I think. It's good news though particularly for anyone living on that bad section of the N5 and I can think of one school in particular that is in a very perilous situation on the side of the road. After it's built, could the speed limit on these old roads be reduced to 80 or less, and make them suitable for cycling and walking? Rathcroghan in particular will be a more pleasant place to visit without all that traffic whizzing past.

The high horse brigade

plodder wrote: »

Some sleepy little towns are about to get a lot sleepier I think. It's good news though particularly for anyone living on that bad section of the N5 and I can think of one school in particular that is in a very perilous situation on the side of the road. After it's built, could the speed limit on these old roads be reduced to 80 or less, and make them suitable for cycling and walking? Rathcroghan in particular will be a more pleasant place to visit without all that traffic whizzing past.

Yes any road that's bypassed gets reduced to 80kmph.

Tigerandahalf

There is some sort of trail in the Rathcroghan area is there? Suitable for a good walk?

BelfastVanMan

The high horse brigade wrote: »

plodder wrote: »

Some sleepy little towns are about to get a lot sleepier I think. It's good news though particularly for anyone living on that bad section of the N5 and I can think of one school in particular that is in a very perilous situation on the side of the road. After it's built, could the speed limit on these old roads be reduced to 80 or less, and make them suitable for cycling and walking? Rathcroghan in particular will be a more pleasant place to visit without all that traffic whizzing past.

Yes any road that's bypassed gets reduced to 80kmph.

Well, specifically, the default speed limit on R and L roads is 80kph.

plodder

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

There is some sort of trail in the Rathcroghan area is there? Suitable for a good walk?

Not aware of a trail for walking. There's a visitor centre and at least one prehistoric mound you can visit. Sliabh Bán windfarm isn't far though and that's a nice place for a walk.

mayo.mick

marno21 wrote: »

Bohola is to be rebypassed as part of the N5/N26/N58 project

Huh?

Tigerandahalf

plodder wrote: »

Not aware of a trail for walking. There's a visitor centre and at least one prehistoric mound you can visit. Sliabh Bán windfarm isn't far though and that's a nice place for a walk.

Is there not a Táin trail there somewhere (an old historic cattle trail).
Just googled there and there is some info about Queen Maeve, Rathcroghan and the Cattle raid of the Cooley Peninsula.

I have driven through that area and there are picnic benches and some trail marked I think.

http://hikingwalkingireland.com/thetainway/

plodder

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Is there not a Táin trail there somewhere (an old historic cattle trail).
Just googled there and there is some info about Queen Maeve, Rathcroghan and the Cattle raid of the Cooley Peninsula.

I have driven through that area and there are picnic benches and some trail marked I think.

http://hikingwalkingireland.com/thetainway/

I've seen the signs you mentioned, but the link above is for a walk around Cooley not this part of Roscommon. I've looked for evidence of a trail around there before, but not found it.

Tigerandahalf

Something mentioned here about it.
https://www.tainmarch.ie/route/

Click on the Day by Day routes (in red writing).
It lists the first day (wrongly states Day 2) as a route from Rathcroghan to Lissonuffy (23.8km long).

plodder

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Something mentioned here about it.
https://www.tainmarch.ie/route/

Click on the Day by Day routes (in red writing).
It lists the first day (wrongly states Day 2) as a route from Rathcroghan to Lissonuffy (23.8km long).

Interesting. Sounds a bit like a long distance version of the Tóchar Phadraig in Mayo. Could be wrong but it might be tricky to do outside of the official dates, because I'd say there is little enough marked "trail" as such, but it looks like it's on this weekend. Would be a good thing to do if you were in the area.

marno21

mayo.mick wrote: »

Huh?

Bohola is to be properly bypassed as part of the N5/N26/N58 project

http://www.regdesign.com/?page_id=590

mayo.mick

marno21 wrote: »

Bohola is to be properly bypassed as part of the N5/N26/N58 project

http://www.regdesign.com/?page_id=590

Ahh right, sorry I forgot about that

marno21

mayo.mick wrote: »

Ahh right, sorry I forgot about that

Its been so long since it was announced you'd be doing well to remember it

marno21

Tender now out for fencing and hedgerow removal along the route

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=147750&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

Once this starts the route should become very clear with it fenced off.

Very impressive rate of progress on this scheme since ABP approval.

paulbok

marno21 wrote: »

Tender now out for fencing and hedgerow removal along the route

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=147750&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

Once this starts the route should become very clear with it fenced off.

Very impressive rate of progress on this scheme since ABP approval.

Officials out speaking with landowners today.

DumbBrunette

They really are motoring along on this, to think Westport to Turlough was approved 5 years ago and going to construction this year. This project might go from approval to construction in just 2 years.

marno21 wrote: »

Tender now out for fencing and hedgerow removal along the route

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=147750&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

Once this starts the route should become very clear with it fenced off.

Very impressive rate of progress on this scheme since ABP approval.

spacetweek

DumbBrunette wrote: »

They really are motoring along on this, to think Westport to Turlough was approved 5 years ago and going to construction this year. This project might go from approval to construction in just 2 years.

Shows how fast things can move when the will's there.

marno21

spacetweek wrote: »

Shows how fast things can move when the will's there.

It also gives a good omen for the M6, M21 and M28 projects when their legal hoops have been jumped.

By the time this N5 project and the three above are ready to go, they can't be held up by Shane Ross stonewalling thanks to Section 33 of the Electoral Act 1992.

marno21

marno21 wrote: »

Now tendered in full.

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/212882

€12.7m for archaeology.

Awarded to Archaelogical Management Solutions, €9.82m

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/215913

spacetweek

Genuinely glad this is going ahead so soon and it'll only be a few years before this one and Westport-Turlough are done.
For the main access road to Mayo from Dublin and the midlands, the N5 is shocking, a glorified cattle track not worthy of its prominent number.

prunudo

spacetweek wrote: »

Genuinely glad this is going ahead so soon and it'll only be a few years before this one and Westport-Turlough are done.
For the main access road to Mayo from Dublin and the midlands, the N5 is shocking, a glorified cattle track not worthy of its prominent number.

Shame they aren't as quick to advance the upgrade of the N20.

marno21

The progress on this scheme is refreshing indeed, but it is just one scheme. If/when the M28 gets past the legal issues, I would hope the same amount of urgency is applied there to get it shovel ready for 2021.

The primary delays these days seem to be in the pre-planning approval stages. The M21 is now in planning with 62 months and still hasn't reached An Bord Pleanala.

paulbok

Archeology works have started this week. Off the mainline at Shankhill cross near Elphin.
Another field beside where the roundabout will be for Strokestown will be, now fenced offed for same.
More farmers telling them to F**k off until they have the silage cut or the sale of land goes through.

marno21

marno21 wrote: »

Roscommon County Council have tendered for land valuation services for the lands to be CPOd for the scheme.

Awarded: https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=143569&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=2&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

100mph for this scheme. Not sure why it's going at this pace whilst so many others are effectively moving at a snails pace.

marno21

Tender out for detailed ground investigation along the route

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=149993&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

marno21

Phases 5-7 awarded to Roughan O’Donovan / AECOM JV

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/217115

BelfastVanMan

marno21 wrote: »

Phases 5-7 awarded to Roughan O’Donovan / AECOM JV

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/217115

Jaysus, this one's motoring along!

marno21

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

Jaysus, this one's motoring along!

The “rules” don’t apply to the N5

prunudo

They're not hanging around, good to see the progress on this one compared to the snails pace of others.

paulbok

Archeology flying around Strokestown and Elphin, lots of fields fenced off now for the works (temporary fence now, permanent one in a few months, don't know why they can't do the permanent one for the majority of the road at the outset).
I've heard that although the land has been taken over from the farmers, that it could be a year or two before they get paid for it. Surely that can't be right? I'd expect some bit of a delay to argue over compensation, but if it takes so long they should have begun negotiations earlier in the project.
Bad enough that farmers lose land but not being able to try and replace it for years, is taking the pi$$.