Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

MightyMandarin

death1234567 wrote: »

I wonder if Pedro picked Chelsea because of: 1. London factor 2. Fabrégas telling him it's great and Mourinho is great 3. De Geá telling him Manchester is a dump where it rains every day 4. Money.

Probably all of the above.

He would've gotten obscene wages in Manchester. Chelsea may have bags of cash, but their wage structure isn't as crazy as City's or United's.

Trond

MightyMandarin wrote: »

United missed out on Otamendi ?

No they didn't.

Its been widely reported that he was never a target....

RayCun

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Well what CB or ST/LW have you signed (aside from Depay)? United missed out on Otamendi and Pedro, just like we did with Depay, but we got Firmino instead. Chasing Ramos, Muller, Pedro, Otamendi etc. has been United's biggest downfall this summer.
...
Evidently not when Ings' transfer has gone to a tribunal.

Are you saying that Smalling, Jones or Evans are cut out to be top class CB's ala Vidic and Rio?

United said at least a month ago that they weren't interested in Otamendi. The reporting has been driven by the player/his agent.
United already have a great defensive record. There was no pressing need for a CB.

Harry Palmr

Utd will make a huge stupid offer for Kane, you watch. Spurs will ponder it and say yes for about 40m and then get Berahino for 25m

CSF

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Are we all going to pretend that we've been watching Sadio Mané for a while now? I doubt many here have done more than go straight to Google to find out something about the lad.

What? He was one of the best players at a team that were competing for top 4 for most of the year.

Rayne Wooney

If United had paid the money Pedro would be a United player, they didn't for whatever reason.

Remains to be seen if it's a good move or not

Mane is far less experienced but is quicker than Pedro something that was reported Van Gaal was worried about with Pedro as he seems to be particularly anal with player attributes sometimes within his "philosophy"

Harry Palmr

Giggsy11

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Well what CB or ST/LW have you signed (aside from Depay)? United missed out on Otamendi and Pedro, just like we did with Depay, but we got Firmino instead. Chasing Ramos, Muller, Pedro, Otamendi etc. has been United's biggest downfall this summer.

Depay is a LW but we have to ignore him? Why's that?

Chasing Pedro, Otamendi was biggest downfall? lol. They were more than gettable players. In transfer market everything changes very quickly. Thank god my club doesn't share the same ambition.

Re CB, I have already said that. You can keep on signing CBs and that won't make any difference as long as the team is not organized and plays without DM. At least in 3 games defense has proved more than good enough.

Evidently not when Ings' transfer has gone to a tribunal.

Are you saying that Smalling, Jones or Evans are cut out to be top class CB's ala Vidic and Rio?

There isn't a CB pairing in the league that is as good as Rio and Vida was. So no point comparing to them and there aren't any CBs available who are as good as them.

Edit: Just because media say United defense is not good doesn't make it true. We had 4th best defensive record IIRC and conceded only 5 more goals than best defense. And since City game we had the best defensive record. (why that date? I don't know. That's what Sky posted).

CSF

Lads, yiz know this doesn't always have to be a Liverpool/Man United fan pissing competition right?

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

This used to be a good thread before plebs started coming in with their agendas

MightyMandarin

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Depay is a LW but we have to ignore him? Why's that?

Chasing Pedro, Otamendi was biggest downfall? lol. They were more than gettable players. In transfer market everything changes very quickly. Thank god my club doesn't share the same ambition.

Re CB, I have already said that. You can keep on signing CBs and that won't make any difference as long as the team is not organized and plays without DM. At least in 3 games defense has proved more than good enough.



There isn't a CB pairing in the league that is as good as Rio and Vida was. So no point comparing to them and there aren't any CBs available who are as good as them.

Because it's clear that United still believed that a player like Pedro was needed. Depay is a good signing, but it's clear United wanted both.

If they were 'gettable' then why is one in London and the other in the blue half of Manchester? And what about Ramos or Gundogan, were they 'gettable' aswell?

3 games is nothing. We've the same record as United so far this season, but I still don't rate our CB's or GK that highly.

In relative terms, there are plenty of top CB's around at the moment, and Otamendi was one of them; he was in the La Liga XI afaik. Jones, Smalling and Evans have done very little in their careers to suggest they are worthy of starting for a 'title chasing' side.

Giggsy11

CSF wrote: »

Lads, yiz know this doesn't always have to be a Liverpool/Man United fan pissing competition right?

:rolleyes:

You always start this just because ManUtd and Liverpool fan argue with each other. It wasn't even ManUtd vs Liverpool, it was just ManUtd fan justifying transfers and their strategy.

Anyways go on make "that guy" comment when you are always that guy.

CSF

Giggsy11 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

You always start this just because ManUtd and Liverpool fan argue with each other. It wasn't even ManUtd vs Liverpool, it was just ManUtd fan justifying transfers and their strategy.

Anyways go on make "that guy" comment when you are always that guy.

I apologise for not wanting to read the summer long saga of 'hahaha he didn't join you you're going to be sh*t this year' 'no we never wanted him anyway' 'hahaha you signed a player from the championship' 'yeah well you'll be watching eastenders while the champions league football is on hahaha'

For the rest of the footballing world these childish debates are the Internet equivalent of someone pinching the chubby bit at the back of your arm.

Pedro confirmed yet?

Paraded on a bus maybe?

Harry Palmr

Given the DoF figure would have a list of targets for a given position I wonder where Mane
was on it.

Giggsy11

CSF wrote: »

I apologise for not wanting to read the summer long saga of 'hahaha he didn't join you you're going to be sh*t this year' 'no we never wanted him anyway' 'hahaha you signed a player from the championship' 'yeah well you'll be watching eastenders while the champions league football is on hahaha'

For the rest of the footballing world these childish debates are the Internet equivalent of someone pinching the chubby bit at the back of your arm.

Except it never happened and you just made smart arse comments which are worse than whatever Liverpool ManUtd fans argue.

MightyMandarin

rarnes1 wrote: »

Pedro confirmed yet?

Paraded on a bus maybe?

Well it won't be this bus anyway..

Sanity_Saviour

Harry Palmr wrote: »

lol

pathetic

CSF

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Except it never happened and you just made smart arse comments which are worse than whatever Liverpool ManUtd fans argue.

Ok *pats head*

glued

Giggsy11 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

You always start this just because ManUtd and Liverpool fan argue with each other. It wasn't even ManUtd vs Liverpool, it was just ManUtd fan justifying transfers and their strategy.

Anyways go on make "that guy" comment when you are always that guy.

Maybe you have people on ignore but it's pretty obvious that this thread is a sinking ship. The usual gang have arrived for the 'lolz'.

Gavlor

When do the schools re-open?

Corholio

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Except it never happened and you just made smart arse comments which are worse than whatever Liverpool ManUtd fans argue.

Summer follows Spring. There'd be no 'smartarse' comments if this usual thing didn't have it's almost weekly outing now.

Wolves have said Afobe staying with them.
Villa linked to Alvaro Dominguez of Monchengladbch.

Giggsy11

Gavlor wrote: »

When do the schools re-open?

These are the posts I was talking about. Adds nothing and these are the same people who complain about thread going off topic or about arguments.

There are 2 or 3 people who post nothing but nonsense posts from time to time.

inforfun

pmasterson95

Gavlor wrote: »

When do the schools re-open?

Not soon enough.

pmasterson95

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Are we all going to pretend that we've been watching Sadio Mané for a while now? I doubt many here have done more than go straight to Google to find out something about the lad.

I guess you just dont watch the EPL then? Bizzare attempt at humour/trying to get a rise.

MightyMandarin

inforfun wrote: »

Eeww the black and white background looks so... bleh...

That_Guy

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Anyways go on make "that guy" comment when you are always that guy.

Can see Pedro looking ordinary outside of Barca, looks past his peak already too.

Giggsy11

AdamD wrote: »

Can see Pedro looking ordinary outside of Barca, looks past his peak already too.

IMO he will be a great option for Chelsea. His off the ball movement is excellent and Fabregas can pick him all day long.

Only question is who plays on the wings and who plays behind the striker as Willian is key player for Chelsea.