Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

Gavlor

Everton would be crazy to reject 40million if it's offered. He's good, he's not 40 million good!


https://twitter.com/guardian_sport/status/633676971659145216

Wilberto

GavRedKing wrote: »

Porto reported Mangala was over £40m.

Porto would report the fee in euros, as opposed to City reporting it in sterling.



Still though, looking at that list (excluding Otamendi for obvious reason), it's insane to think that arguably the most successful one was by far the cheapest!

rob316

Gavlor wrote: »

Everton would be crazy to reject 40million if it's offered. He's good, he's not 40 million good!


https://twitter.com/guardian_sport/status/633676971659145216

Makes Raheem Sterling look cheap if that goes through. £40m, that's insanity.

batistuta9

Wilberto wrote: »

Porto would report the fee in euros, as opposed to City reporting it in sterling.

it wasn't a conversion mix up, it was to do with 3rd party ownership.
porto released a statement saying they received X amount for Y percent of the player rights for him.

rwbug

GavRedKing wrote: »

Porto reported Mangala was over £40m.

Source?

Man City announced that they paid Porto £32m. The question was whether City then paid additional money to other partial owners. Tbh I doubt it - that would be up to Porto to deal with - but makes a better story to inflate Citys fees, eg like the Tevez ones.

rwbug

rwbug wrote: »

Source?

Man City announced that they paid Porto £32m. The question was whether City then paid additional money to other partial owners. Tbh I doubt it - that would be up to Porto to deal with - but makes a better story to inflate Citys fees, eg like the Tevez ones.

I'd have no problem believing either story. Ask anyone how much Hazard cost and they'll probably tell you £32 odd million. Nobody mentions the 6 or so million to his agent and presumably a large signing on fee. Tevez's agent was Kia Joorabchian. Who knows how much he got?

Agent Coulson

Ouch a £19m loss.

Striker Roberto Soldado has moved from Tottenham to Spanish side Villarreal in a deal worth a reported £7m.

Soldado, 30, cost Spurs a club record £26m when he signed from Valencia in August 2013 but he only managed seven goals in 52 Premier League appearances.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33978699

rwbug

GavRedKing wrote: »

Porto reported Mangala was over £40m.

Porto announced to the stock exchange receipt of €30.5m for 56.7% of Mangala's rights. This does not automatically mean that City paid €23M for the 43.3% owned by a third party.

Which is where the larger number comes from.

That_Guy

Florian Thauvin looks set to join Newcastle for around £12m from Marseille with Remy Cabella set to go on loan the other way.

EDIT: Marseille. Not Lille

batistuta9

rwbug wrote: »

Source?

Man City announced that they paid Porto £32m. The question was whether City then paid additional money to other partial owners. Tbh I doubt it - that would be up to Porto to deal with - but makes a better story to inflate Citys fees, eg like the Tevez ones.

why would porto pay it? what kind of clowns do you think they're :pac:

http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/fc-porto/manchester-city/oficial-mangala-custa-30-5-milhoes

After the Manchester City have officially announced the hiring of Mangala, also FC Porto did the same in a statement sent to the CMVM. According to the note of the SAD FC Porto, FC Porto receives 30.5 million euros by 57.67 percent of pass it held in relation to the player. This means that Mangala was valued at 53.8 million euros.




That Porto had sold 33.3 percent of Mangala go to Doyen Sports and had assigned shortly to record when hired to Standard Liege, 10 percent to Robi Plus. So had only 56.67 percent of the pass.

Check out the reports in full:

"The Futebol Clube do Porto - Futebol, SAD, in accordance with Article 248 paragraph 1 of the Securities Code, hereby informs the market that it has reached an agreement with Manchester City for the transfer, on a permanent basis, the sport registration fees, and 56.67% of the economic rights held, professional football player Eliakim Mangala, the amount of € 30,500,000 (thirty million five hundred thousand euros). The Board of Directors Porto, 11 August 2014 »

Harry Palmr

update

Harry Palmr wrote: »

At the rate of attrition Spurs will have sold/loaned all their "Bale bounty" transfers by Sept 1st!

29/08/13 C. Eriksen Ajax € 12M
29/08/13 E. Lamela Roma € 30M
29/08/13 V. Chiricheş Steaua € 8.5M SOLD
14/08/13 E. Capoue Toulouse € 11M SOLD
04/08/13 Soldado Valencia € 30M SOLD
25/07/13 N. Chadli Twente € 6.5M
05/07/13 Paulinho Corinthians € 20M SOLD

Lamela to Juve is currently being speculated upon.

Talib Fiasco

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Ouch a £19m loss.

Striker Roberto Soldado has moved from Tottenham to Spanish side Villarreal in a deal worth a reported £7m.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33978699

Watch him suddenly become a top striker again.

Ranchu

Gavlor wrote: »

Everton would be crazy to reject 40million if it's offered. He's good, he's not 40 million good!

I think he'll stay now. I don't think anyone will offer that sum for him again but they will get close to it a couple of years down the line.

Everton should hold out for 50m for the lols

Wilberto

batistuta9 wrote: »

it wasn't a conversion mix up, it was to do with 3rd party ownership.
porto released a statement saying they received X amount for Y percent of the player rights for him.

Fair enough. In truth I didn't have a clue really! Just offering a plausible suggestion! :pac:

Chelsea in for Pedro according to the Guardian.

Ouch

Giggsy11

Many rumors about Pedro close to Chelsea and is in London to complete the move.

MD1990

https://twitter.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/633947460285677568

lol

Harry Palmr

Arf! Utd are far worse than Liverpool at "ending their interest".

ricero

Ed Woodward seems to be starting to look like an amateur when dealing with the big clubs

Giggsy11

ricero wrote: »

Ed Woodward seems starting to look like an amateur when dealing with the big clubs

Yeah, Mata, Di Maria, Schweinsteiger was so easy to pull.

racso1975

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Yeah, Mata, Di Maria, Schweinsteiger was so easy to pull.

Being honest and as a utd supporter I would say they prob were in so far as those 3 were not exactly wanted hugely by their clubs

Neamhshuntasach

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Yeah, Mata, Di Maria, Schweinsteiger was so easy to pull.

Mata wasn't in Mourinho's plans. Di Maria was practically ousted and given what has transpired, looks like he never really wanted United. And Schweinsteiger was allowed to leave and hadn't been playing as much recently. Was instantly replaced with Vidal. The 3 examples you picked were probably the easiest to get done. And in each case except maybe Bastain. United overpaid. If i had a bottomless barrel of cash i'd get deals done by throwing money over the odds at clubs.

glued

ricero wrote: »

Ed Woodward seems to be starting to look like an amateur when dealing with the big clubs

What information do you have to back that up?

Did it ever cross your mind that Pedro would rather join Chelsea than United?

Giggsy11

racso1975 wrote: »

Being honest and as a utd supporter I would say they prob were in so far as those 3 were not exactly wanted hugely by their clubs

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Mata wasn't in Mourinho's plans. Di Maria was practically ousted and given what has transpired, looks like he never really wanted United. And Schweinsteiger was allowed to leave and hadn't been playing as much recently. Was instantly replaced with Vidal. The 3 examples you picked were probably the easiest to get done. And in each case except maybe Bastain. United overpaid. If i had a bottomless barrel of cash i'd get deals done by throwing money over the odds at clubs.

Same case with Pedro. Had Woodward completed, you guys would have said Pedro wanted out so it was easy to deal.

How many transfers happen between big clubs?

How many players have Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, City, Arsenal signed from big clubs?

racso1975

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Same case with Pedro. Had Woodward completed, you guys would have said Pedro wanted out so it was easy to deal.

How many transfers happen between big clubs?

How many players have Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, City, Arsenal signed from big clubs?

I don't agree with the statement that he is an amateur but I also don't agree that those 3 you involved a phenomenal amount of work or displayed a large amount of his skill set.

ERG89

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Same case with Pedro. Had Woodward completed, you guys would have said Pedro wanted out so it was easy to deal.

How many transfers happen between big clubs?

How many players have Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, City, Arsenal signed from big clubs?

Bayern signed Vidal. City got Sterling. Arsenal got Cech. Barca signed Turan. Chelsea might sign Pedro. It happens but United should learn to pick their fights. Stuff like Ramos they got dragged along too long tbh

Giggsy11

racso1975 wrote: »

I don't agree with the statement that he is an amateur but I also don't agree that those 3 you involved a phenomenal amount of work or displayed a large amount of his skill set.

What's the skill set you are expecting?

Like I said, transfers between big clubs rarely happen. Not sure why people use that as a stick to beat Woodward.

Giggsy11

ERG89 wrote: »

Bayern signed Vidal. City got Sterling. Arsenal got Cech. Barca signed Turan. Chelsea might sign Pedro. It happens but United should learn to pick their fights. Stuff like Ramos they got dragged along too long tbh

ManUtd signed Di Maria, Schweinsteiger, Mata in last 2 seasons. Whatever excuses you can give to these 3 transfers can be given to all the names you mentioned.

Again, that's 1 players each for 1 club. Not a big amount of movement.

ERG89

Giggsy11 wrote: »

ManUtd signed Di Maria, Schweinsteiger, Mata in last 2 seasons. Whatever excuses you can give to these 3 transfers can be given to all the names you mentioned.

Again, that's 1 players each for 1 club. Not a big amount of movement.

That is just this summer alone them clubs in most cases close out the deals they need.
United tend to get dragged along in a few cases since Fabregas was unsuccessfully wooed two years ago. (Arsenal probably less so)