Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

Paully D

retalivity wrote: »

Cabaye to palace is ridiculous

Truly an outstanding signing. The joys of being a London based club.

aodea

retalivity wrote: »

Cabaye to palace is ridiculous

Presume they are breaking wage structure for him, clearly happy to work with Pards again. Seems odd how his stock has dropped, was wanted by lots of clubs before moving to PSG and now Palace get him?

London based definitely helps their cause. He can probably leave family in France(if he has family that is).

Francie Barrett

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/br_uk/status/618418273768636416

Report: Damien #Duff to sign for local club Shamrock Rovers and give his wages to charity 👍 http://ble.ac/1S5GWIP

Lovely gesture from Duff. Will definitely have to watch him play sometime.

Magico Gonzalez

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/618705949101060096

That's huge for Spuds and as a Liverpool fan I don't like it one bit.

inforfun

Asamoah Gyan going from Al Ain to Shanghai SIPG.
€20 million fee and he ll be earning €1 million a month.

Could have a decent career in Europe but choose the big money in the desert and now China, as he admitted himself.

Kramer of ADO de Haag also admitted there was just 1 reason to leave Den Haag for the desert, money.

More respect for just saying so than for the likes as Xavi who apprently went to Al Sadd because the "project interested him".
Same as Hiddink who went to Anzhi because the project there interested him. Nothing to do with the millions they receive for being interested in "the project"

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

inforfun wrote: »

Asamoah Gyan going from Al Ain to Shanghai SIPG.
€20 million fee and he ll be earning €1 million a month.

Could have a decent career in Europe but choose the big money in the desert and now China, as he admitted himself.

Kramer of ADO de Haag also admitted there was just 1 reason to leave Den Haag for the desert, money.

More respect for just saying so than for the likes as Xavi who apprently went to Al Sadd because the "project interested him".
Same as Hiddink who went to Anzhi because the project there interested him. Nothing to do with the millions they receive for being interested in "the project"

Beckham, Robbie Keane, Raul, Pirlo, Marquez, Eto'o, Defoe, Lampard, Gerrard, Matthaus, Henry.. List is endless, can't blame a player for wanting one big last paycheck.

Also a bit naive to expect players to say they're just going for the paycheck, don't think it would wash well with their employers, team-mates or fans, regardless of whether or not it's true.

inforfun

THFC wrote: »

Beckham, Robbie Keane, Raul, Pirlo, Marquez, Eto'o, Defoe, Lampard, Gerrard, Matthaus, Henry.. List is endless, can't blame a player for wanting one big last paycheck.

Also a bit naive to expect players to say they're just going for the paycheck, don't think it would wash well with their employers, team-mates or fans, regardless of whether or not it's true.

Difference being that most of the guys you name there, went to the USA and i can actually believe it when they, for a part at least, go there because they are interested in living there.

Those desert clubs cant be that stupid to think the likes of Xavi are coming over there for anything else than the oil dollars.

And i dont blame them for going for that money but just be honest about it. Like Gyan and Kramer just did.

I know it is the thing to say, even for us the one that have to go for normal jobs to get food on the table, during interviews that you want to work for company X because they are best thing ever and all that kind of non sense of challenges and scrap.
It usually comes down it is because they pay you more than someone else, that is why you go.

TL;DR
Dont mind them picking up a big check day but just say the big check is the reason why you go where you go.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

inforfun wrote: »

Difference being that most of the guys you name there, went to the USA and i can actually believe it when they, for a part at least, go there because they are interested in living there.

Those desert clubs cant be that stupid to think the likes of Xavi are coming over there for anything else than the oil dollars.

And i dont blame them for going for that money but just be honest about it. Like Gyan and Kramer just did.

I know it is the thing to say, even for us the one that have to go for normal jobs to get food on the table, during interviews that you want to work for company X because they are best thing ever and all that kind of non sense of challenges and scrap.
It usually comes down it is because they pay you more than someone else, that is why you go.

TL;DR
Dont mind them picking up a big check day but just say the big check is the reason why you go where you go.

Doesn't matter if it's the USA, Qatar or China, they were all going for the money and nothing else. USA is just more of an attractive destination than the other two. And if you think the players that go to the MLS, Q-League and Chinese Super League are going to make a public mockery of them by admitting the reason (no matter how obvious it is), then you're deluded.

ronjo

THFC wrote: »

Doesn't matter if it's the USA, Qatar or China, they were all going for the money and nothing else. USA is just more of an attractive destination than the other two. And if you think the players that go to the MLS, Q-League and Chinese Super League are going to make a public mockery of them by admitting the reason (no matter how obvious it is), then you're deluded.

Would Pirlo not get more money if he declared himself available for a premiership side?
What sort of money or these guys getting?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

ronjo wrote: »

Would Pirlo not get more money if he declared himself available for a premiership side?
What sort of money or these guys getting?

Tbh I don't really know the figures and what he would get from Premier League clubs, but would imagine it wouldn't be nearly as good as what he's getting from NYCFC.

Ormus

inforfun wrote: »

Difference being that most of the guys you name there, went to the USA and i can actually believe it when they, for a part at least, go there because they are interested in living there.

Those desert clubs cant be that stupid to think the likes of Xavi are coming over there for anything else than the oil dollars.

And i dont blame them for going for that money but just be honest about it. Like Gyan and Kramer just did.

I know it is the thing to say, even for us the one that have to go for normal jobs to get food on the table, during interviews that you want to work for company X because they are best thing ever and all that kind of non sense of challenges and scrap.
It usually comes down it is because they pay you more than someone else, that is why you go.

TL;DR
Dont mind them picking up a big check day but just say the big check is the reason why you go where you go.

I don't agree with that. It's fine in theory, but in practice it's disrespectful to the club you're joining and its fans to say "Let's face it guys, I wouldn't be in this $hithole except for the wads of money you're paying me". When you join a club you become an ambassador for that club, and should have the respect to act accordingly.

Cantona's Collars

Drogba in talks with Porto.

https://twitter.com/PortuBall/status/618793940842582016

Oat23

Valon Behrami left our camp in Switzerland to negotiate with Fiorentina and Watford.

I'm hoping Watford are as dumb as Leicester were with Okazaki and offer us more than we are expecting.

Oranage2

inforfun wrote: »

Difference being that most of the guys you name there, went to the USA and i can actually believe it when they, for a part at least, go there because they are interested in living there.

Those desert clubs cant be that stupid to think the likes of Xavi are coming over there for anything else than the oil dollars.

And i dont blame them for going for that money but just be honest about it. Like Gyan and Kramer just did.

I know it is the thing to say, even for us the one that have to go for normal jobs to get food on the table, during interviews that you want to work for company X because they are best thing ever and all that kind of non sense of challenges and scrap.
It usually comes down it is because they pay you more than someone else, that is why you go.

TL;DR
Dont mind them picking up a big check day but just say the big check is the reason why you go where you go.

What a ridiculous post..

Of course it's for the money and everyone knows but players have to be professional. plus I doubt the local fans care either, they'll get to see Xabi.

China and the middle east aren't bad places to live either, north England is probably a worse to live.

Bounty Hunter

don't think it was mentioned here yet but Shay Given has left Villa and looks to be heading to Middlesboro although Stoke are also now beng reported to have an interest. Either way big wages gone for Villa and hopefully Given gets regular first team football

adox

Looks like Van Persie to Fernebahce is a done deal.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9907304/van-persie-deal-agreed

Paully D

Newcastle in advanced talks with Wijnaldum per Sky Sports and others. For **** sake I'll be extremely jealous if they pull that one off.

dreamers75

Ruiz to Lisbon with a 60 m buy out.

ummmm......k did look decent at times but 60 m buyout

Moneymaker

Paully D wrote: »

Newcastle in advanced talks with Wijnaldum per Sky Sports and others. For **** sake I'll be extremely jealous if they pull that one off.

You can have him if you promise not to beat us again.

cson

dreamers75 wrote: »

Ruiz to Lisbon with a 60 m buy out.

ummmm......k did look decent at times but 60 m buyout

Buyouts mean nothing in reality though if clubs are open to doing deals.

I think Pedro, who Arsenal were linked with lately, has something like a €130m buyout clause.

The only recent case that I can remember of it becoming a sticking point was where Bilbao refused to let Martinez negotiate with Bayern and he ended up having to buyout his contract iirc.

Oat23

Antalyaspor in Turkey signed Eto'o, and now they are after Valdes and Ronaldinho too. That would be interesting..

inforfun

Those buy out clauses do mean something, sometimes.
If a club's offer meets that buy out clause, club has to accept.

Most famous transfer where that happened was Figo to Real from Barca.


I thought Ronaldinho was a done deal last week already?

Oranage2 wrote: »

What a ridiculous post..

Of course it's for the money and everyone knows but players have to be professional. plus I doubt the local fans care either, they'll get to see Xabi.

China and the middle east aren't bad places to live either, north England is probably a worse to live.

The Middle East and China are better places to live than Northern England?

And my post is ridiculous. Alrighty then. (insert Jim Carrey face)

willowthewisp

Turan to train with Barca for 6 months before he can be registered for his debut. Crazy that, just take a loan deal, somewhere, anywhere.

glued

willowthewisp wrote: »

Turan to train with Barca for 6 months before he can be registered for his debut. Crazy that, just take a loan deal, somewhere, anywhere.

He can't because he's technically not their player until they can register him.

inforfun

Paully D wrote: »

Newcastle in advanced talks with Wijnaldum per Sky Sports and others. For **** sake I'll be extremely jealous if they pull that one off.

Dont care where he ends up.
Hope there will be a bidding war and he goes for 30 million since 15% of the transfer fee will be shared between Feyenoord and Wijnaldum.

He should do better than Sunderland or Newcastle.
But other than those 2 only Zenith has shown interest but came with an offer that made no sense at all. 10 million now and then some add ons that could end up being 15 million.

eh i dunno

inforfun wrote: »

Dont care where he ends up.
Hope there will be a bidding war and he goes for 30 million since 15% of the transfer fee will be shared between Feyenoord and Wijnaldum.

He should do better than Sunderland or Newcastle.
But other than those 2 only Zenith has shown interest but came with an offer that made no sense at all. 10 million now and then some add ons that could end up being 15 million.

Everton are interested too. I know nothing about him. Can he play as a number 10 which is what we need.

inforfun

eh i dunno wrote: »

Everton are interested too. I know nothing about him. Can he play as a number 10 which is what we need.

Earlier in this thread i mentioned he is actually an enemy of his own versatility.
Can play on the right wing (at Feyenoord from age 16), can play the no 10 role (he did at PSV and Feyenoord) while he played DM at the WC for Holland last summer.
But on all those positions there are better players around/ available for that money i think.
Now if a club wants him to be their first choice no 10, you probably have him.

He is not a no 10 in the older Bergkamp style, provider. He is more one in the young Bergkamp style, scoring goals. If that makes sense.

Gavlor

inforfun wrote: »

Earlier in this thread i mentioned he is actually an enemy of his own versatility.
Can play on the right wing (at Feyenoord from age 16), can play the no 10 role (he did at PSV and Feyenoord) while he played DM at the WC for Holland last summer.
But on all those positions there are better players around/ available for that money i think.
Now if a club wants him to be their first choice no 10, you probably have him.

He is not a no 10 in the older Bergkamp style, provider. He is more one in the young Bergkamp style, scoring goals. If that makes sense.

Everyone (Everton even!) current offer is a supply of last seasons training balls, 10 box tickets to bill kenwrights next show and 3 million drachma paid monthly in arrears.

I wouldn't be holding out hope that Everton will offer big money!

inforfun

Gavlor wrote: »

Everyone current offer is a supply of last seasons training balls, 10 box tickets to bill kenwrights next show and 3 million drachma paid monthly in arrears.

I wouldn't be holding out hope that Everton will offer big money!

Autocorrect i presume?


Matteo Darmian done deal for Utd apparently.
18 million that can rise to 20 million.

Neamhshuntasach

Surprised at that. Live with a Torino fan for the past 2 years and became a bit of a ritual to watch the games online. Good player but just wouldn't have imagined him being a target for starting right back for a team as big as United. Would rate Rafael better. But he seems unwanted and been injured a good bit.