ZV or Year registration plate?!

eric90000

Bringing my imported 1985 Porsche 924 to the NCT tomorrow to pay VRT and get a licence plate number. I have the option to get a ZV or an 85 plate. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which would look better or add more value to the car?

I'm aware you can go from 85 to ZV but not the other way round. I also heard 5 digit ZV plates can look terrible....I have no clue which one to pick.

Duke O Smiley

In my opinion, ZVs look terrible on new(ish) cars, i.e an 85 924. A year plate would look much nicer on your car. Speaking from experience, as someone who has owned his fair share of classics, a few of them imports, year plates always look better. ZVs are much too common.

But, it is completely down to personal preference. Neither will really add/ take away from the value of your car

Atlantic Dawn

Hard choice, the ZV has the advantage that you don't need to have the IRL or normal colour you can go old style pressed black plates. If it's Dublin will you not end up with a 120k D plate or have they lower numbers for pre 87 cars, I think a 120k Dublin plate would look terrible on a car of that age.

Duke O Smiley

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Hard choice, the ZV has the advantage that you don't need to have the IRL or normal colour you can go old style pressed black plates. If it's Dublin will you not end up with a 120k D plate or have they lower numbers for pre 87 cars, I think a 120k Dublin plate would look terrible on a car of that age.

You don't need an IRL identifier on a pre-92 plate. Could go for black plate, white, white with red rear etc etc.

colm_mcm

I'd grudgingly take the ZV

aujopimur

Legally you should use a current style plate what ever reg. you choose.

billy few mates

ZV and leave people to guess what age it is....

biko

OP, as you have options I took the liberty to add a poll to the thread.

kdevitt

Go for the year based one - you can switch it for a ZV if you don't like it. You can't switch from a ZV to a year based though!

nd

I'd much prefer the year plate. Probably because 90% of cars have the zv plate.

colm_mcm

ZV plate kinda makes the car look timeless.

Duke O Smiley

colm_mcm wrote: »

ZV plate kinda makes the car look timeless.

They really look crap on anything this new

BMJD

saw an AE86 with 84 D 12000xx yesterday, looked rubbish on it, I'd go with ZV on black pressed plates if I were going that road.

Duke O Smiley

BMJD wrote: »

saw an AE86 with 84 D 12000xx yesterday, looked rubbish on it, I'd go with ZV on black pressed plates if I were going that road.

And just get ZV 120xxx?

BMJD

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

And just get ZV 120xxx?

I didn't think they were doing the 120xxx thing with ZV plates

Dord

BMJD wrote: »

I didn't think they were doing the 120xxx thing with ZV plates

They are.

BMJD

oh well in that case....who cares!

CiniO

In my opinion it makes absolutely no difference what the number plate is.
It's how car looks what matters.
Number plate is just set of random letters and number which are completely irrelevant and only for identification purposes.
It hard for me to understand that it could matter for anyone what number plate says, and especially to pay any money for it like some people do.

eric90000

Thanks for all the replies. Paid the €200 today and went for the 85D plate. Although I liked the ZV I felt the white 85 suited the car a lot better as its a white & black car.

Need to buy plates now, anyone know for sure if I have to display the IRL identifier or Baile Atha Cliath? Would love to get a white plate with just the 85-D-123456 and nothing else.

Duke O Smiley

eric90000 wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies. Paid the €200 today and went for the 85D plate. Although I liked the ZV I felt the white 85 suited the car a lot better as its a white & black car.

Need to buy plates now, anyone know for sure if I have to display the IRL identifier or Baile Atha Cliath? Would love to get a white plate with just the 85-D-123456 and nothing else.

You will be fine without the IRL identifier. Pre-92 cars never had them when new so do not need them now. Day one plates on my Alto are below, never failed an NCT with them and never had any trouble from law. The same goes for seat belts, it never had them new so it doesn't need them now.

aujopimur

The correct plate to use is the one in use at the time of rereg. most owners just do their own thing, personally I like what ever was in use when it was new.

mb1725

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

You will be fine without the IRL identifier. Pre-92 cars never had them when new so do not need them now. Day one plates on my Alto are below, never failed an NCT with them and never had any trouble from law. The same goes for seat belts, it never had them new so it doesn't need them now.

Interesting, when did the seat belt legislation come in to effect here?

CiniO

mb1725 wrote: »

Interesting, when did the seat belt legislation come in to effect here?

Front seatbelts in 1971.
Rear seat belts in 1992.

CiniO

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

You will be fine without the IRL identifier. Pre-92 cars never had them when new so do not need them now.

However worth remembering, that in case of such plate (without IRL on blue strip on the side) if you drive abroad you'll need to display something like that in the rear.

carchaeologist

Buy a tax book, that fixes everything. It's what all the cool kids are doing these days.

aujopimur

Irrespective of legislation, I always fit seatbelts to my classics.

Xenophile

eric90000 wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies. Paid the €200 today and went for the 85D plate. Although I liked the ZV I felt the white 85 suited the car a lot better as its a white & black car.

Need to buy plates now, anyone know for sure if I have to display the IRL identifier or Baile Atha Cliath? Would love to get a white plate with just the 85-D-123456 and nothing else.

Regulations on EU sign and reflectorised material not apply to pre 87 vehicles!

Silvera

Xenophile wrote: »

Regulations on EU sign and reflectorised material not apply to pre 87 vehicles!

Pre-1991 for EU sign actually. Pre-87 for reflectorized material.
However, if we want to get technical ...on second thoughts nah, posters here would only end up debating this here for weeks.

OP, go with plain white plates

Silvera

Dord wrote: »

They are.

What ZV plate over 120000 have you seen?

Afaik, they havent exceed 7-digits to date, i.e. 'ZV nnnnn'.

Having said that, if the IVVCC dont sort out a new 'vintage plate' system soon with the govt, they will issue ZV 100000+ plates ...just like they did with ZZ plates.

commited

Hey folks,

Bit of a thread resurrection - looking to bring in a 1985 car next month - anyone any idea what the ZV numbers are for North Dublin at the moment?

Type 17

They're up to ZV 10832 today, according to Cartell records.

whisky_galore

Have noticed a small number of classics still sporting their uk reg plates doing the rounds.

Must not be as strict on the ZV/County plates as I thought?

aujopimur

A lot of these are driven on trade policies, so no notification to revenue from insurance companies.

Silvera

aujopimur wrote: »

A lot of these are driven on trade policies, so no notification to revenue from insurance companies.

No doubt a small number are driven on trade policies. However, I too have noticed many being driven on private insurance policies for many months (years in some cases...especially early cars, 1920's, 1930's, etc). My classic was driven - by the previous owner - for 10 months on UK plates (on a private policy)?!

jacool

Type 17 wrote: »

They're up to ZV 10832 today, according to Cartell records.

I've seen a ZV over 40000, in Cork.

whisky_galore

Silvera wrote: »

No doubt a small number are driven on trade policies. However, I too have noticed many being driven on private insurance policies for many months (years in some cases...especially early cars, 1920's, 1930's, etc). My classic was driven - by the previous owner - for 10 months on UK plates (on a private policy)?!

Yeah, early cars, as in pre WW2 ones.

CJhaughey

jacool wrote: »

I've seen a ZV over 40000, in Cork.

Ruins the look I think, vintage plates should be small digits if possible.

hi5

aujopimur wrote: »

A lot of these are driven on trade policies, so no notification to revenue from insurance companies.

Trade policies should notify of each vehicle when used on www.nfd.ie.
Then again if the number plate recognition cameras are not turned on if even available to gardai its not going to make much difference.

boardsuser1

Came across a Volkswagen Kombi last week in the parade. The reg was on a black pressed background. The number is 57-C-40002. It looks awful.

Kenny Logins

jacool wrote: »

I've seen a ZV over 40000, in Cork.

There are allocated batches for each licencing authority. Dublin is still in the 10k range.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056460411

Mine (Cork) is 26k odd.

Atlantic Dawn

They should have restarted the system and went with ZV followed by letter of county and then started off numbering...ZVD 123, ZVLK 123 etc.

Silvera

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They should have restarted the system and went with ZV followed by letter of county and then started off numbering...ZVD 123, ZVLK 123 etc.

Thats one option.
Another is to reverse the system (as was done with pre-87 plates) -

100 ZV
101 ZV
102 ZV
etc etc etc

Low plates (e.g. 100 ZV to 999 ZV) could be held back for pre-WW2 vehicles.

As it stands we will see ZV 100000+ in the coming years as the powers-that-be dont seem to have any interest in putting an updated / new system in place.