Crashed this morning on the N11 at Donnybrook

Deedsie

Got knocked down outside Donnybrook service station this morning around 8am. Van pulled across me and bang into the side of it I went. Bike seems grand and I am grand apart from a sore hand and a scrape on my leg.

The driver apologised and offered me his details but I didn't see the need as I felt grand. I regret not taking them now. I was kind of in shock and I didn't know what to do. Is there a procedure that should be taken in situations like this?

Should I take details every time regardless of perceived seriousness? I am fine thankfully just a bit spooked from it. My first crash.

Cee-Jay-Cee

If your sure your ok and you've no injuries and your bike is ok and that you don't want to pursue the matter any further then his details are sort of irrelevant at this stage. You'd only need them if you were pursing a claim for injuries or damage or if you wanted to make a complaint to gardai about his driving.

RainyDay

Always take the details. It only takes a few seconds to snap a photo of the car reg and insurance disc at a minimum. Glad you're OK.

I saw what appeared to be the aftermath of a crash on Ballinteer Ave yesterday morning, at the junction with Mayfield Terrace. The cyclist was sitting up by the wall, and somebody had given him the stereotypical tartan rug to keep him warm. It looked like he was waiting for an ambulance. Hope he's OK.

Deedsie

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

If your sure your ok and you've no injuries and your bike is ok and that you don't want to pursue the matter any further then his details are sort of irrelevant at this stage. You'd only need them if you were pursing a claim for injuries or damage or if you wanted to make a complaint to gardai about his driving.

No I am grand, couple of scrapes on my legs and a bang on my hand. Gonna go out and give the bike a good once over at lunch time. I cycled on from donnybrook and didn't notice any issues.

I did manage to slow down just before impact so it wasn't as bad as it might have been. His driving was worrying but he admitted fault straight away etc and offered me his details so I think it was just a momentary lapse of judgement on his behalf.

It would knock your confidence a bit when this happens. Two years cycling in Dublin and that was my first non ice related accident.

rollingscone

I once spoke to a guy who'd come off his motorcycle avoiding a pedestrian. He was a bit shaken but told me he was grand and went on his way.

A few days later he called me from the hospital. He'd gone to work sat down at his desk and three hours later couldn't get back up.

Broken pelvis.

Adrenaline is a hell of a thing.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Deedsie wrote: »

Got knocked down outside Donnybrook service station this morning around 8am. Van pulled across me and bang into the side of it I went. Bike seems grand and I am grand apart from a sore hand and a scrape on my leg.

The driver apologised and offered me his details but I didn't see the need as I felt grand. I regret not taking them now. I was kind of in shock and I didn't know what to do. Is there a procedure that should be taken in situations like this?

Should I take details every time regardless of perceived seriousness? I am fine thankfully just a bit spooked from it. My first crash.

Absolutely. Take details and report it to the Gardai. Even if you don't wish to proceed with it. They should record it and if you wish to proceed at a future date, you have the information you need

What if you had seriously damaged your hand but didn't notice it until later? Same with your bike.

magicbastarder

rollingscone wrote: »

Adrenaline is a hell of a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F50kRViqITs#t=1m20s

manwithaplan

rollingscone wrote: »

Adrenaline is a hell of a thing.

It certainly is. I rode 17km home with a fractured hip. You can't trust how you feel immediately after an accident.

Deedsie

Well fingers crossed I won't ever have to worry about it again but in future I will be taking details etc. I like cycling to work but parts of the N11 are just deadly.

Skrynesaver

Just to confirm the effect of shock/adrenaline on your ability to perceive injury, I cycled home with a broken wrist after a crash a few years ago...

Always take details at the scene

Brian Lighthouse

I cycle and drive, just make sure you can be seen.
It's hard for a driver at times to spot a cyclist, especially one who is going quite fast in dense traffic.
Cyclists should be aware of vehicles changing lanes and pulling out of junctions etc especially if they are traveling fast in dense traffic, with no light, and if the sky is overcast or there is rain.
There's my tuppence ha'penny worth. We all have to share the road.

68 lost souls

Always take details. There may be a crack in the frame or something similar that you don't see until later or indeed a crack in a bone.

Deedsie

Brian Lighthouse wrote: »

I cycle and drive, just make sure you can be seen.
It's hard for a driver at times to spot a cyclist, especially one who is going quite fast in dense traffic.
Cyclists should be aware of vehicles changing lanes and pulling out of junctions etc especially if they are traveling fast in dense traffic, with no light, and if the sky is overcast or there is rain.
There's my tuppence ha'penny worth. We all have to share the road.

I appreciate that Brian but when a motorist pulls across a cycle lane without looking and I smash into the side of them I am not thinking about sharing the road. I wasn't going fast having just taken off from the traffic lights before the service station. It was a perfectly clear morning, he just didn't look before he turned. I agree with everything you say above but in no way does it relate to this situation.

Edit: My poor glove took the brunt of the damage to my hand.

Brian Lighthouse

I wasn't talking about you in my post, my post was a general one to all road-users.
You said the guy apologised, that's cool, things happen at times. Get well soon and get back on the bike ASAP.

ford2600

Deedsie wrote: »

I appreciate that Brian but when a motorist pulls across a cycle lane without looking and I smash into the side of them I am not thinking about sharing the road. I wasn't going fast having just taken off from the traffic lights before the service station. It was a perfectly clear morning, he just didn't look before he turned. I agree with everything you say above but in no way does it relate to this situation.

Edit: My poor glove took the brunt of the damage to my hand.

In case bike is damaged or your injured I'd do the following immediately as a precaution.
*Report to Gardai, giving as much detail as you can. Get Garda's name and keep a record
* Ask Service station manager for look at CCTV, ask him to preserve it and get reg of van.

Deedsie

ford2600 wrote: »

In case bike is damaged or your injured I'd do the following immediately as a precaution.
*Report to Gardai, giving as much detail as you can. Get Garda's name and keep a record
* Ask Service station manager for look at CCTV, ask him to preserve it and get reg of van.

Going to bring the bike for a checkup/service this evening. I am doing a charity 100km cycle Saturday so I need to make sure it is 100% right.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Deedsie wrote: »

Going to bring the bike for a checkup/service this evening. I am doing a charity 100km cycle Saturday so I need to make sure it is 100% right.

The Cycle4DSI Lap De Gaps?.. I'm doing it myself if I can get out to Blessington on time, I'm coming off a nightshift on Saturday morning so it'll be a struggle

RainyDay

Brian Lighthouse wrote: »

It's hard for a driver at times to spot a cyclist, especially one who is going quite fast in dense traffic.

Except that it's not.

arybvtcw0eolkf

RainyDay wrote: »

Except that it's not.

Is it, to deny that is pure silly and if you don't take that into account when you're riding your bike you're a silly person.. Its why we have to make the effort to make ourselves more visible to the motorist, and ride defensively.

If you really think we're easily seen you're deluding yourself, we're not easily seen at all.

Deedsie

Diana Dry Realtor wrote: »

The Cycle4DSI Lap De Gaps?.. I'm doing it myself if I can get out to Blessington on time, I'm coming off a nightshift on Saturday morning so it'll be a struggle

No it's a charity cycle for Motor Neurone Disease awareness from Nenagh to Galway.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Sorry I should have replied to the OP.

Always take the details of the other driver in the event of an accident.

I can't relate to injuries like some of the others have, but my son was parked in a car outside his job. A delivery van reversed into him, but seemingly didn't cause any damage.

A few days later I was about to service the car for him and noticed some screws missing from a bar at the radiator, a neighbour is a panel beater so I asked him if he'd any replacements.. He looked at the car, asked had there been an accident recently, we explained what had happened ~ (it was an older car) and the neighbour explained that it was a reenforcing bar, it had done its job but because of the age and cost value of the car that an insurance inspector would write the car off.

My son hadn't taken the vans details, and his car was a write off

arybvtcw0eolkf

Deedsie wrote: »

No it's a charity cycle for Motor Neurone Disease awareness from Nenagh to Galway.

Best of luck with it, I hope you're having better weather over in the west.

Hope the bike isn't damaged too, be safe.

Deedsie

Diana Dry Realtor wrote: »

Best of luck with it, I hope you're having better weather over in the west.

Hope the bike isn't damaged too, be safe.

This is the third time we have done it. I checked the bike again at lunch time and to my untrained eye it seems grand. Still going to drop it in for a quick once over.

Thanks for all the replies, I will be sure to always take the details in future.

Tigerandahalf

Were you cycling a bike with drop bars or flat bars. Personally I feel drop bars are not safe in traffic as it takes you longer to get to the brakes.
Don't envy anyone commuting in the city. It just isn't suitable to have bikes and heavy vehicles so close to each other.
I would agree with the poster above re taking a photo of scene and reporting to garda station. If you have any issue afterwards you are covered.

07Lapierre

Geez....broken Hips, broken Pelvis, cars written off! While all these things can happen, nobody but the OP knows how badly he/she is hurt. (though I suspect your fine if your in work and posting on boards) take it easy today. see how you feel tomorrow. If your have any concerns, go to your local GP and get your self checked out.

I had a similar incident two years ago. A van turning right and I braked but it was too late. I hit the side of the van and landed in a heap in the middle of the road. NO INJURIES WHATSOEVER.

rollingscone

07Lapierre wrote: »

Geez....broken Hips, broken Pelvis, cars written off! While all these things can happen, nobody but the OP knows how badly he/she is hurt. (though I suspect your fine if your in work and posting on boards) take it easy today. see how you feel tomorrow. If your have any concerns, go to your local GP and get your self checked out.

I had a similar incident two years ago. A van turning right and I braked but it was too late. I hit the side of the van and landed in a heap in the middle of the road. NO INJURIES WHATSOEVER.

That'd be why people are recommending recording his insurance details rather than say, pre-emptively revenge killing his whole family.

Re: Riding on Drops in traffic I do it every day, and far more safely than most people on flay bars.

BrianHenryIE

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Were you cycling a bike with drop bars or flat bars. Personally I feel drop bars are not safe in traffic as it takes you longer to get to the brakes.

What are you talking about? My hands are on my brakes/shifters almost the whole time in traffic. And I rarely see anyone in the drops around town.

Don't envy anyone commuting in the city. It just isn't suitable to have bikes and heavy vehicles so close to each other.

God bless the Port Tunnel.

07Lapierre

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Were you cycling a bike with drop bars or flat bars. Personally I feel drop bars are not safe in traffic as it takes you longer to get to the brakes.

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Rubbish!

Deedsie

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Were you cycling a bike with drop bars or flat bars. Personally I feel drop bars are not safe in traffic as it takes you longer to get to the brakes.
Don't envy anyone commuting in the city. It just isn't suitable to have bikes and heavy vehicles so close to each other.
I would agree with the poster above re taking a photo of scene and reporting to garda station. If you have any issue afterwards you are covered.

I cycle with drop bars. I had 0.5 seconds to react. I cycle extremely safely and defensively. I got cut off, nothing I could have done bar smash into him which I did. Drop bars, flat bars would be the exact same result.

07Lapierre

rollingscone wrote: »

That'd be why people are recommending recording his insurance details rather than say, pre-emptively revenge killing his whole family.

To clarify..I was not suggesting that the OP does not get insurance details in future. All I was saying was that its unlikely he has a broken hip/pelvis or that the van or his bike is a write off.

Brian Lighthouse

RainyDay wrote: »

Except that it's not.

There I was thinking that my safety announcement was way too much and that all drivers and cyclists know that it can be difficult to see cyclists at certain times. I'm glad I said it now.

Diana Dry Realtor wrote: »

Is it, to deny that is pure silly and if you don't take that into account when you're riding your bike you're a silly person.. Its why we have to make the effort to make ourselves more visible to the motorist, and ride defensively.

If you really think we're easily seen you're deluding yourself, we're not easily seen at all.

Well said Diana Dry Realtor.