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1 in 7 dope for IM

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    #32
    bryangiggsy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭bryangiggsy


    tunney wrote: »
    One man's account Bryan

    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/05/amateur-doping-in-australia-a-personal-story/


    Dave Is this not a guy a cyclist who was trying to go pro or trying to make a living from it which you are comparing to Irish amatuer athletes who work full time and do it as a pastime like the majority of the 10k TI members in Ireland? Am not being naive i just dont think you are comparing like with like


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    #33
    tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    bryangiggsy wrote: »
    Dave Is this not a guy a cyclist who was trying to go pro or trying to make a living from it which you are comparing to Irish amatuer athletes who work full time and do it as a pastime like the majority of the 10k TI members in Ireland? Am not being naive i just dont think you are comparing like with like

    I beg to differ. I think you are being naive.
    But hey I know you well enough to know your mind is not for changing.


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    #34
    peter kern
    Registered Users Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    tunney wrote: »
    I beg to differ. I think you are being naive.
    But hey I know you well enough to know your mind is not for changing.

    I agree Ireland has an above average level of bribery in business, so it would not really be a suprise if it transfers into sport .


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    #35
    Tom__jnr2
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    Do they (TI) actually test anyone outside top athletes? I mean do they normally go to races like Athy or HOW and conduct random tests for AGs?


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    #36
    BTH
    Registered Users Posts: 3,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭BTH


    Tom__jnr2 wrote: »
    Do they (TI) actually test anyone outside top athletes? I mean do they normally go to races like Athy or HOW and conduct random tests for AGs?

    I've seen it happen, yeah.


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    #37
    tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    BTH wrote: »
    I've seen it happen, yeah.

    Add have I but it's not ti. Its the ISC afaik


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    #38
    Tom__jnr2
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Tom__jnr2


    tunney wrote: »
    Add have I but it's not ti. Its the ISC afaik

    Out of curiosity, did any AG fail it?


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    #39
    tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Tom__jnr2 wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, did any AG fail it?

    AFAIK you have to go back a while but yes.


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    #40
    rooneyjm
    Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭rooneyjm


    peter kern wrote: »
    I agree Ireland has an above average level of bribery in business, so it would not really be a suprise if it transfers into sport .

    I wouldnt say we are above average, I'd just say others are better at getting away with it.


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    #41
    peter kern
    Registered Users Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    rooneyjm wrote: »
    I wouldnt say we are above average, I'd just say others are better at getting away with it.

    if you compare ireland with eastern european or african countries you are correct ;-)


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    #42
    mossym
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=5553918;page=1;mh=-1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC

    interesting read on this over on slowtwitch .usual fun was had, but the underlying message is there


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    #43
    mossym
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    and i'm pretty sure there was random testing before lough cutra last year. pulling people on their way into T1 to set up


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