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Woman drops trou - sues state.

  • 23-04-2015 11:24am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/woman-who-dropped-her-underwear-at-jail-sues-state-325567.html

    So a woman was visiting her husband in Castlrea prison, due to what I imagine was a mix up in communication, proceeds to pull down her jeans and knickers while going through the metal detector. She is now suing the state for damages due to embarrassment.

    It is indeed fortunate for her that stupidity is not a crime or she may very well have been joining her husband in prison.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Hope she's hired some good briefs.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    It's a bizarre story


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    She should be taking the underwear manufacturer to court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,473 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I'd be more embarrassed at being married to a criminal tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    Sleepy wrote: »
    I'd be more embarrassed at being married to a criminal tbh.
    Stay classy.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is a highly confusing story. The prison asked her to take off her jeans and I read in another article that her underwear accidentally came off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,823 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    It'll fall down in court


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,656 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    This is a highly confusing story. The prison asked her to take off her jeans and I read in another article that her underwear accidentally came off.

    The way I interpreted it from a couple of different sources was that she put her bits and bobs in the tray for the x-ray, pointed to the metal studs in her jeans to ask if they would be a problem. Prison guard said no, she interpreted it as a 'yes', and dropped trousers, accidentally taking knickers with them in the process.

    How this could be anybody's fault but her own is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Big C


    she is a foreigner and was never down leeson street in the good times when all the ladies dropped their knickers at every opportunity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    In fairness, inferring she was 'crazy' and that she was doing a 'striptease' was completely inappropriate and unprofessional and so she is dead right to sue them. The bafoon might choose his words a little more carefully given similar circumstances in the future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    mike_ie wrote: »
    The way I interpreted it from a couple of different sources was that she put her bits and bobs in the tray for the x-ray, pointed to the metal studs in her jeans to ask if they would be a problem. Prison guard said no, she interpreted it as a 'yes', and dropped trousers, accidentally taking knickers with them in the process.

    How this could be anybody's fault but her own is beyond me.

    Bits and bobs in a tray, you say? I'd pay to see that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,779 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    This is a highly confusing story. The prison asked her to take off her jeans and I read in another article that her underwear accidentally came off.

    Prison officer said he asked her to take off her shoes. He denied asking her to take off her jeans.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    mike_ie wrote: »
    The way I interpreted it from a couple of different sources was that she put her bits and bobs in the tray for the x-ray, pointed to the metal studs in her jeans to ask if they would be a problem. Prison guard said no, she interpreted it as a 'yes', and dropped trousers, accidentally taking knickers with them in the process.

    How this could be anybody's fault but her own is beyond me.

    I read in the article I mentioned that they stayed off for a short period of time. So you have to wonder, did she just stand there, pants and knickers on the ground? For a few minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,124 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Sleepy wrote: »
    I'd be more embarrassed at being married to a criminal tbh.

    Were those leaked episodes of GoT that you illegally downloaded any good? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    When she bent over, they found 30 pounds of crack!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,598 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    anncoates wrote: »
    Hope she's hired some good briefs.
    Benny Hill SC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Infini


    Butthurt woman sues state for own stupidity. Seriously why cant cases like this be weeded out before they get to court. Nothing but money for the lawyers.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Infini2 wrote: »
    Butthurt woman sues state for own stupidity. Seriously why cant cases like this be weeded out before they get to court. Nothing but money for the lawyers.

    Because Courts are the forum to weed things out.

    If you would like to add yet another tier of bureacracy and more work, lawyers would be very grateful indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭Ken Shamrock


    Those poor prison guards, they should be suing her...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭shy-tall-knight


    Ambulance chasing, compo culture. The judge should throw it out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,118 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Judge will probably award her €10k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Judge will probably award her €10k.
    Should fine her 10k for public indecency


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    I would not be surprised if they did ask her to drop her pants, can personally vouch for a few strange and verbose experiences with prison officers over the years. Nevertheless, let's see it flesh out. In the meantime, cannot stopped thinkibg about this video http://youtu.be/oqolwZoj8RA


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    I wouldn't believe a word any prison officer says. I have a friend who's from Romania. He's lived here since he started secondary school. He was driving to work about a month ago when he was pulled over by gaurds, he was told he had to go to the barracks to have his car searched. My friend didn't know why but agreed to go. When he got there he was asked to come into the station for questioning while his car was searched. When he was in the station they told him to strip while they searched him.
    They were accusing him of being a drug dealer and one of them was saying 'I hate roma scumbags like you' 'why don't you **** off back to the ****hole you came from' and stuff like that. He was humiliated, when he got back to his car it was in a mess. Stuff thrown everywhere, seat covers ripped. He realised later that they went through his phone which he'd left in his car. He went to his solicitor and is going to make a complaint. No doubt those scumbags who did this to him will deny it all. Worse, people like we see on this thread will believe them because they don't know what the gardaí and prison officers are like in this state.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I wouldn't believe a word any prison officer says...
    ...He was driving to work about a month ago when he was pulled over by gaurds...

    You do know prison officers and Gardai are different, do you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Complains about prison officers.
    Proceeds to tell a story that has bugger all to do with prison officers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    The poor prison officers will need counseling after seeing that ones kacks. Horrible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    You do know prison officers and Gardai are different, do you?

    You do know they're cut from the same cloth don't ya?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    Infini2 wrote: »
    Butthurt woman sues state for own stupidity. .
    Nope..

    She concedes that she her underwear came down partially due to her own error and had security just said something along the lines of: Sorry, you've misunderstood, you only need to remove.. then there would be no case, as then any embarrassment that she felt would have been 100% her own doing.

    However, that is not the case here, as BUT FOR (which is the point of law primarily called on in such cases) the inappropriate response to the woman's error, she would not have felt so embarrassed and humiliated. Asking her was she crazy and instructing her not to do a striptease, when others were present is what resulted in that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    noway12345 wrote: »
    You do know they're cut from the same cloth don't ya?

    Cut from the same cloth? Ya wha?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Complains about prison officers.
    Proceeds to tell a story that has bugger all to do with prison officers.

    Different cheek but the same arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,118 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I wouldn't believe a word any prison officer says. I have a friend who's from Romania. He's lived here since he started secondary school. He was driving to work about a month ago when he was pulled over by gaurds, he was told he had to go to the barracks to have his car searched. My friend didn't know why but agreed to go. When he got there he was asked to come into the station for questioning while his car was searched. When he was in the station they told him to strip while they searched him.
    They were accusing him of being a drug dealer and one of them was saying 'I hate roma scumbags like you' 'why don't you **** off back to the ****hole you came from' and stuff like that. He was humiliated, when he got back to his car it was in a mess. Stuff thrown everywhere, seat covers ripped. He realised later that they went through his phone which he'd left in his car. He went to his solicitor and is going to make a complaint. No doubt those scumbags who did this to him will deny it all. Worse, people like we see on this thread will believe them because they don't know what the gardaí and prison officers are like in this state.
    You can see why people never agree to anything being searched unless they have a warrant, and as soon as they want to talk to you demand a solicitor.
    I remember they wanted to search a neighbours garage (he imported bikes from america, customised them and sold them) cos they thought he was importing guns hidden in the engines! I think some gardai watch too much CSI


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    Cut from the same cloth? Ya wha?

    You speakey the engalish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    In fairness, inferring she was 'crazy' and that she was doing a 'striptease' was completely inappropriate and unprofessional and so she is dead right to sue them. The bafoon might choose his words a little more carefully given similar circumstances in the future.
    It's a sad sign of the times when you can get lots of money out of the state because someone askes "Are you crazy?" and says "we can't have you doing a striptease" after you pull your pants down!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    noway12345 wrote: »
    You speakey the engalish?

    Me speakey Englalish fine.
    Care to explain how they are "cut from the same cloth"?


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nope..

    She concedes that she her underwear came down partially due to her own error and had security just said something along the lines of: Sorry, you've misunderstood, you only need to remove.. then there would be no case, as then any embarrassment that she felt would have been 100% her own doing.

    However, that is not the case here, as BUT FOR (which is the point of law primarily called on in such cases) the inappropriate response to the woman's error, she would not have felt so embarrassed and humiliated. Asking her was she crazy and instructing her not to do a striptease, when others were present is what resulted in that.

    Hur Hur. Butt.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    Me speakey Englalish fine.
    Care to explain how they are "cut from the same cloth"?

    Same mentality. Like to have power over people and generally abuse it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Same mentality. have power over people and generally use it in the course of their work.

    Fixed that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    However, that is not the case here, as BUT FOR (which is the point of law primarily called on in such cases) the inappropriate response to the woman's error, she would not have felt so embarrassed and humiliated. Asking her was she crazy and instructing her not to do a striptease, when others were present is what resulted in that.

    And for an allegedly inappropriate response to her own stupid mistake we need a court case and a claim for compensation. What a world we live in. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭Kop On


    I'd love to know who is paying for her challenge in the courts?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    In fairness, inferring she was 'crazy' and that she was doing a 'striptease' was completely inappropriate and unprofessional and so she is dead right to sue them. The bafoon might choose his words a little more carefully given similar circumstances in the future.

    Yeah, I'm always asked in shops "Ya alrigh?'" [Deli woman, Grand Canal Spar take note:)] as opposed to "Can I help you?"or other civil ways to inquire if one needs service. She probably is a buffoon and all that, but I think I'll kick off proceedings to sue them for a deficiency in customer service.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    It's a sad sign of the times when you can get lots of money out of the state because someone askes "Are you crazy?" and says "we can't have you doing a striptease" after you pull your pants down!
    It's not a 'sign of the times' that needlessly humiliating someone when professionalism is called for, results in a court case, not sure why you think it is.

    Ambulance chasing is a problem, but this is a far cry from that.

    They failed to act professionally when the woman misunderstood their instructions, choose to mock and laugh at her instead and are now being sued for it and rightly so. They disrespected her, they shouldn't have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,222 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Kop On wrote: »
    I'd love to know who is paying for her challenge in the courts?

    You are, of course.

    Woman sues Prison Service (state), probably gets a settlement to bog off and save more legal expenses, costs paid by state, taxpayer gets rode again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    It's amazing how many people are taking the word of the prison officer as gospel. No wonder the church etc. where able to get away with stuff in the past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Gardai, prisoner officers, priests....

    Who's next on your hit list?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    It's not a 'sign of the times' that needlessly humiliating someone when professionalism is called for, results in a court case, not sure why you think it is.

    Ambulance chasing is a problem, but this is a far cry from that.

    They failed to act professionally when the woman misunderstood their instructions, choose to mock and laugh at her instead and are now being sued for it and rightly so. They disrespected her, they shouldn't have.

    Do you not think that the prison guards were embarrassed by what she did. Easy to say they should have acted professionally but how was she mocked or laughed at?
    The asked " are you crazy " & " no need to do a striptease " think most people would say the same if it happened to them


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Valetta wrote: »
    Gardai, prisoner officers, priests....

    Who's next on your hit list?

    The question you should be asking is who's next on their hit list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭BrianBoru00


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I wouldn't believe a word any prison officer says. I have a friend who's from Romania. He's lived here since he started secondary school. He was driving to work about a month ago when he was pulled over by gaurds, he was told he had to go to the barracks to have his car searched. My friend didn't know why but agreed to go. When he got there he was asked to come into the station for questioning while his car was searched. When he was in the station they told him to strip while they searched him.
    They were accusing him of being a drug dealer and one of them was saying 'I hate roma scumbags like you' 'why don't you **** off back to the ****hole you came from' and stuff like that. He was humiliated, when he got back to his car it was in a mess. Stuff thrown everywhere, seat covers ripped. He realised later that they went through his phone which he'd left in his car. He went to his solicitor and is going to make a complaint. No doubt those scumbags who did this to him will deny it all. Worse, people like we see on this thread will believe them because they don't know what the gardaí and prison officers are like in this state.

    Don't trust the Romanians - one of my mates cousins father is a garda - he once had a Romanian shout and spit at him. my mates cousins father saw him shoplifting and sure as everyone knws them lads are all the same .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Do you not think that the prison guards were embarrassed by what she did. Easy to say they should have acted professionally but how was she mocked or laughed at?
    The asked " are you crazy " & " no need to do a striptease " think most people would say the same if it happened to them

    She was laughed at by a number of prison officers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Prison guards should counter sue for her sickening their hole with a gimps of hers


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