Episode 5x01 - 'The Wars to Come' - Have NOT read the books [** Spoilers **]

Mr E

For non-book readers.

If you have read A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons, please do not post here - use the other thread.

This is for Episode 1 ONLY.

Kilkenny14

Strong start. Tyrion's question if he can drink himself to death on the road to Mereen would be an episode I will want to watch!

Sheeeeit

Stannis is going to mount Roose Bolton's head on a spike, very interesting indeed

Kylo Ren

Good opening episode.

Did anyone else think they replaced the actor for grey worm at the start?

Sheeeeit

Yes! I was thinking here we go again with the actor changes haha thank god it wasn't.

Degag

Slow enough start IMO. Stannis not gonna be happy with Jon Snow?

Amirani

Degag wrote: »

Stannis not gonna be happy with Jon Snow?

Agreed, but he's likely going to need him.

Degag

Very quiet in here!

Was anybody else hoping that Margeary would join in with the 2 blokes she walked in on?

Sheeeeit

Degag wrote: »

Very quiet in here!

Was anybody else hoping that Margeary would join in with the 2 blokes she walked in on?

Her brother?
I suppose is it Game of Thrones....

Sheeeeit

Degag wrote: »

Very quiet in here!

Was anybody else hoping that Margeary would join in with the 2 blokes she walked in on?

Her brother?
I suppose it is Game of Thrones....

FactCheck

Disappointing to see Ciaran Hinds gone!

Staplor

I'm thinking Jon Snow is in cahoots with Baratheon, the arrow and the release of those Wildlings in Castle Black will make Jon a key figure in bringing the North onside.

K4t

Thought that episode was excellent, one of the best of the series in fact.

The ending was why I still watch this show.

castletownman

Melisandre seemed pleased when Jon Snow said he wasn't a virgin.

The lucky bastard is going to be getting jiggy with the temptress.

expectationlost

did cersi's cousin admit to killing her husband? and being behind the poisoning of her son, is he part of the fire womens cult?

looks very different


and why would tyrian talk to Daenerys Targaryen?


hers isn't the right name?


http://www.vulture.com/2015/04/varys-targaryen-supporter.html

expectationlost

castletownman wrote: »

Melisandre seemed pleased when Jon Snow said he wasn't a virgin.

The lucky bastard is going to be getting jiggy with the temptress.

i thought maybe it meant he was slightly less susceptible to her seduction

alchemist33

I thought it was a pretty forgettable episode, tbh. But it is the first and it has to build.

squonk

I thought it was a good episode to catch up, dip the toes back in the water and a chance to catch breath before the whole things kicks off again. I suppose the most significant happening was Mance Raidar's death. I thought it was a bit unjustified. Killing the wildling's leader isn't likely to put Stannis on any wildling christmas card lists though it might put John Snow on them. I'd forgotten just what a creepy bítch Mellisandre is! No Arya unfortunately. The Hound is a great loss really. The Khaleesi story could get quite boring now that she's struggling to rule and tame her dragons. I think Tyrion will be a welcome addition to that whole story arc when he arrives with Varys. I think it was needed at this stage to be honest. She's been too long out on her own disconnected from everything else. Are we done with Ser Friendzone now? I can't remember what happened him last season.

Mormegil

expectationlost wrote: »

did cersi's cousin admit killing her husband? and being behind the poisoning of her son, is he part of the fire womens cult?

It was just Robert's (the former King) death he was talking about (that and sleeping with Cersei) he had nothing to do with Jofferey's posioning.


The Sparrows are followers of The Seven (main Gods in Westeros) not the Lord of Light (Melisandre's religion).

Sheeeeit

squonk wrote: »

Are we done with Ser Friendzone now? I can't remember what happened him last season.

Ser Friendzone was caught out spying on Khaleesi (back in the early days) when Tywin Lannister sent over a letter to Barriston Selmy in season 4. He was cast out and is now wandering around Essos alone.

iamanengine

Thank f**k I didn't have to watch a man be burnt alive. I was on the edge of my seat for that entire scene!

Good episode, sets everything up nicely.

Thought Tyrion and Varys exchanges were interesting, Varys really does do everything he does for the good of the realm.

Good to see Sansa not being a whiny b*tch :P

ohnonotgmail

iamanengine wrote: »

Thank f**k I didn't have to watch a man be burnt alive. I was on the edge of my seat for that entire scene!

Good episode, sets everything up nicely.

Thought Tyrion and Varys exchanges were interesting, Varys really does do everything he does for the good of the realm.

Good to see Sansa not being a whiny b*tch :P

sansa seems to have really grown up. she even walks differently. much more upright and poised like her mother.

Degag

expectationlost wrote: »

did cersi's cousin admit to killing her husband? and being behind the poisoning of her son, is he part of the fire womens cult?

looks very different


and why would tyrian talk to Daenerys Targaryen?


hers isn't the right name?


http://www.vulture.com/2015/04/varys-targaryen-supporter.html

I think it was pretty much telling us that Cersei was involved in Roberts death.

ohnonotgmail

Degag wrote: »

I think it was pretty much telling us that Cersei was involved in Roberts death.

was that not a given already?

Degag

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

was that not a given already?

Yeah, probably was, can't really remember.

storker

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

sansa seems to have really grown up. she even walks differently. much more upright and poised like her mother.

I hope she turns out a nicer person and with some better judgement thrown in.

mzungu

Degag wrote: »

Yeah, probably was, can't really remember.

Sure was. Strongly insinuated in earlier seasons that his wine was spiked the day of the boar hunt.

Sheeeeit

mzungu wrote: »

Sure was. Strongly insinuated in earlier seasons that his wine was spiked the day of the boar hunt.

And it was Cersei's cousin Lancel who was Robert's wine bearer at the time. She put him up to it.

mzungu

Sheeeeit wrote: »

And it was Cersei's cousin Lancel who was Robert's wine bearer at the time. She put him up to it.

Them Lannisters, it seems this kingslaying lark is in their blood. :pac:

I wonder will this come bite to bite Cersei at some stage, it was brought up again for a reason.

wp_rathead

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

was that not a given already?

It was pretty much insinuated alright but this pretty much confirmed it
Gotta be careful to take things as a "given" mind- remember we all assumed was Lannisters that had Robert Barotheons "Hand of King" killed - where we then found out was Little Finger and Katylens sister behind it

ohnonotgmail

wprathead wrote: »

It was pretty much insinuated alright but this pretty much confirmed it
Gotta be careful to take things as a "given" mind- remember we all assumed was Lannisters that had Robert Barotheons "Hand of King" killed - where we then found out was Little Finger and Katylens sister behind it

oh i get that. but i do remember at least some knowing looks between cersei and lancel if not an actual conversation concerning the wine that robert was drinking.

wp_rathead

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

oh i get that. but i do remember at least some knowing looks between cersei and lancel if not an actual conversation concerning the wine that robert was drinking.

Yup, I remember Ned being worried that he was surrounded by Lannisters aswell

mikemac1

I liked the opening scene with the witch/prophet and Cersei

And so Robert had 17 bastards, some man for one man

Speedsie

mikemac1 wrote: »

I liked the opening scene with the witch/prophet and Cersei

And so Robert had 17 bastards, some man for one man

He had 20 bastards, Cersei had 3 children, but Robert wasn't the biological father.

coolabula

Speedsie wrote: »

He had 20 bastards, Cersei had 3 children, but Robert wasn't the biological father.

Didn't robert and cercei have a child that died in infancy? I seem to remember her telling neds wife in season 1 and describing him as dark haired?

ohnonotgmail

coolabula wrote: »

Didn't robert and cercei have a child that died in infancy? I seem to remember her telling neds wife in season 1 and describing him as dark haired?

i remember that as well

Speedsie

coolabula wrote: »

Didn't robert and cercei have a child that died in infancy? I seem to remember her telling neds wife in season 1 and describing him as dark haired?

Ah, I didn't recall that, thanks for the memory jog!

Sheeeeit

I'd like to know how that baby died!

golfball37

Sheeeeit wrote: »

I'd like to know how that baby died!

The way this show is I wouldn't rule out that boy turning out to be Gendry.

Sheeeeit

golfball37 wrote: »

The way this show is I wouldn't rule out that boy turning out to be Gendry.

Oooh very interesting.....

mzungu

golfball37 wrote: »

The way this show is I wouldn't rule out that boy turning out to be Gendry.

Oh yeah, forgotten totally about him. Hasn't been seen since Davos set him free, that was about two seasons ago I think.

iamanengine

So Dany has totally lost control of the dragons, how the feck is she gunna sort that one out?!

coolabula

golfball37 wrote: »

The way this show is I wouldn't rule out that boy turning out to be Gendry.

I thought the same just couldn't remember his name

expectationlost

wheres the 502 thread?

Roar

expectationlost wrote: »

wheres the 502 thread?

Make it?

boccy23

iamanengine wrote: »

So Dany has totally lost control of the dragons, how the feck is she gunna sort that one out?!

What did she expect??

She locked the two of them in chains in a dark crypt.

forumuser

golfball37 wrote: »

The way this show is I wouldn't rule out that boy turning out to be Gendry.

Or Jon Snow?

Sheeeeit

forumuser wrote: »

Or Jon Snow?

Jon Snow has Stark blood though, I believe.

Spon Farmer

I haven't read the books but recently I happened upon something that seems fairly important from the books but wasn't in this episode.

Maggy the Frog tells Cersei that the "valonqar" will kill her.

Have the writers explained why they dropped it? Or am I completely wrong and it is mentioned in the episode?

ohnonotgmail

Spon Farmer wrote: »

I haven't read the books but recently I happened upon something that seems fairly important from the books but wasn't in this episode.

Maggy the Frog tells Cersei that the "valonqar" will kill her.

Have the writers explained why they dropped it? Or am I completely wrong and it is mentioned in the episode?

wrong thread. this is the thread for no book discussion.

Spon Farmer

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

wrong thread. this is the thread for no book discussion.

I thought I was in that other thread - clicked the wrong link in my haste.

Although it doesn't really make a difference since people who haven't read the book can still confirm whether or not the episode contains a mention of the "valonqar" and whether the writers have said why it was dropped.