Great news for us overweight folks!

Hitchens

a new survey has found that overweight people have 18% less risk of developing Alzheimers and that obese folk have 24% less risk

brilliant news at last for all of us rotund guys and gals

(survey was published in The Lancet Diabetes and Endocrinolgy)

eviltwin

Cool, lets have cake to celebrate!

pickarooney

You mean because you'll die of heart disease before it's likely to become a problem?

barneystinson

Hitchens wrote: »

a new survey has found that overweight people have 18% less risk of developing Alzheimers and that obese folk have 24% less risk

brilliant news at last for all of us rotund guys and gals

(survey was published in The Lancet Diabetes and Endocrinolgy)

Is it because most of the fatties will already be dead / dying from diabetes, cancers, heart disease etc before they get to the age of developing Alzheimer's...

cloud493

Enjoy the heart disease and diabetes and all the rest of it.

Forest Demon

You smug skinny sh1tes could not give us that one victory! I am off to seek comfort from the kitchen.

mikom

Hitchens wrote: »

a new survey has found that overweight people have 18% less risk of developing Alzheimers and that obese folk have 24% less risk

brilliant news at last for all of us rotund guys and gals

At least ye won't forget where the cookie jar is......

Tarzana2

Hitchens wrote: »

a new survey has found that overweight people have 18% less risk of developing Alzheimers and that obese folk have 24% less risk

That's because we'll be around for a shorter amount of time. :pac:

*reaches for rag on stick*

Desolation Of Smug

Fat chance.

elstingeo

How is this great news for anyone? So you can be morbidly obese or overweight but rejoice in the fact you'll never develop Alzheimer's? I also cycled my bike today without a helmet but wasn't hit by a car..

PizzamanIRL

That's because all we do is sit around so it would be very hard for your brain to forget the monitor and 4 walls in front of you, and the fridge.

elstingeo

elstingeo wrote: »

How is this great news for anyone? So you can be morbidly obese or overweight but rejoice in the fact you'll never develop Alzheimer's? I also cycled my bike today without a helmet but wasn't hit by a car..

You sound like you could do with a biscuit.

kneemos

What's the % 18 based on,the number of fat people or the number who contract Alzheimers?
Either way it's % 18 of a smaller number and can be somewhat misleading.

NSAman

Great news alright, but you are still FAT!!!!

jamesoneill

Hitchens wrote: »

a new survey has found that overweight people have 18% less risk of developing Alzheimers and that obese folk have 24% less risk

brilliant news at last for all of us rotund guys and gals

(survey was published in The Lancet Diabetes and Endocrinolgy)

if you got the alzheimers you wouldn't need to diet

you'd just forget to eat and lose weight that way

MathDebater

Eating curry is meant to be great in preventing Alzheimers.

Phil Mitchell

I would rather die of heart disease than have alzheimers, thank you.

Little CuChulainn

pickarooney wrote: »

You mean because you'll die of heart disease before it's likely to become a problem?

Which is also the reason why fat people cost the health service less.

Tarzana2

Wonder when someone will chime in with "It's fine to slag gingers, why can't I slag fatties?"

Uncle Ruckus

Hey fatty, I got a story for ya. A fridge too far!

ColeTrain

As if a fat **** would forget to eat.

TheBeardedLady

This news was in the papers this week.

Fat can be healthy, so don’t tell me you’re dieting for health reasons


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/08/fat-healthy-dieting-health-reasons-overweight-lifespan-weight

AndonHandon

I'm not fat I'm just big-boned.

Tarzana2

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

This news was in the papers this week.

Fat can be healthy, so don’t tell me you’re dieting for health reasons


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/08/fat-healthy-dieting-health-reasons-overweight-lifespan-weight

The people of AH will not like this, there'll be conniptions! :pac:

Aongus Von Bismarck

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

This news was in the papers this week.

Fat can be healthy, so don’t tell me you’re dieting for health reasons


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/08/fat-healthy-dieting-health-reasons-overweight-lifespan-weight

My favourite Guardian headline this morning was:
Should I tell my fiancée that I’m bisexual and had sex with her dad?

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/12/tell-fiancee-i-am-bisexual-and-had-sex-with-her-dad-mariella-frostrup

Tarzana2

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

My favourite Guardian headline this morning was:
Should I tell my fiancée that I’m bisexual and had sex with her dad?

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/12/tell-fiancee-i-am-bisexual-and-had-sex-with-her-dad-mariella-frostrup

Did you even read the article tBL linked, rather than post this cheap non-sequitur?

MathDebater

The author claims to be a 'fat activist'. WTF is that when it's at home?

TheBeardedLady

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

My favourite Guardian headline this morning was:
Should I tell my fiancée that I’m bisexual and had sex with her dad?

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/12/tell-fiancee-i-am-bisexual-and-had-sex-with-her-dad-mariella-frostrup

Haha! Saw that too and read it out to himself.

Tarzana2

MathDebater wrote: »

The author claims to be a 'fat activist'. WTF is that when it's at home?

Don't know, but the article cites research if anyone could be bothered to read it rather than react to the headline.

mikom

MathDebater wrote: »

The author claims to be a 'fat activist'. WTF is that when it's at home?

A tongue twister.

fat activist
fat activist
fat activist......

osarusan

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Did you even read the article tBL linked, rather than post this cheap non-sequitur?

Here is one line from that article:

Might these findings lead to the dethronement of BMI as the definitive measure of bodies, weight and health?

I thought that BMI had been somewhat discredited as a measure, at least, the use of BMI is nowhere near unanimously approved. Am I wrong?


The whole article is confusing actually. She cites research that indicates people with very high or low BMI are those most likely to die prematurely. She uses these findings to argue that people who are overweight or slightly obese are therefore the ones who will live longest. And then she hopes that BMI, the very measurement which allows her to make that claim, will be dethroned as the definitive measure.

I am not really sure what point she is making.

Tarzana2

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

Haha! Saw that too and read it out to himself.

Me too!

Tarzana2

osarusan wrote: »

Here is one line from that article:



I thought that BMI had been somewhat discredited as a measure, at least, the use of BMI is nowhere near unanimously approved. Am I wrong?


The whole article is confusing actually. She cites research that indicates people with very high or low BMI are those most likely to die prematurely. She uses these findings to argue that people who are overweight or slightly obese are therefore the ones who will live longest. And then she hopes that BMI, the very measurement which allows her to make that claim, will be dethroned as the definitive measure.

I am not really sure what point she is making.

Yeah, it's a bit unfocussed indeed, but the science is interesting at least. I'm just sayin', read the article rather than giving a knee-jerk response, people!

endacl

In other great news for overweight folks, it has been revealed that roads are free for the purpose of walking, and that cake is not compulsory. It is predicted, unfortunately, that these findings will make little or no difference to the majority of inveterate chubbies.

endacl

MathDebater wrote: »

The author claims to be a 'fat activist'. WTF is that when it's at home?

A fine example of an oxymoron?

theboy1

I really hate the fat acceptance in this country.

In this day and age, with the resources available, no one should be fat.

The Saint

Nothing tastes as good as Alzheimers......wait.......what was I saying

Tarzana2

theboy1 wrote: »

I really hate the fat acceptance in this country.

Diddums?

Anyway, what fat acceptance? Threads on AH on the subject of fat tend to be stuffed to the gills with people who don't accept fatness.

UCDVet

theboy1 wrote: »

I really hate the fat acceptance in this country.

In this day and age, with the resources available, no one should be fat.

Honest question - why shouldn't people be fat? Seems like a perfectly valid choice to me.

Little CuChulainn

UCDVet wrote: »

Honest question - why shouldn't people be fat? Seems like a perfectly valid choice to me.

I think the more important question is why is it any of his business.

theboy1

UCDVet wrote: »

Honest question - why shouldn't people be fat? Seems like a perfectly valid choice to me.

Because it is honestly and their health problems take money out my pocket.

Also the fact it is easy to not be obese.

One eyed Jack

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Yeah, it's a bit unfocussed indeed, but the science is interesting at least. I'm just sayin', read the article rather than giving a knee-jerk response, people!

I read the article, I really wish I hadn't wasted my time tbh. There was no science in there, merely opinion based on twisting of statistics. I almost stopped reading when I got to this bit -


"Thin privilege is rampant"


I should have stopped when I got to this bit -


"a culturally constructed myth that props up the diet industry, patriarchy and oppressive beauty standards"


Anything to justify her own stupidity really - "I'm not the one with the problem, everyone else is the problem". She doesn't see that it's just she who just has a problem with everyone else. Thankfully, there's not enough people in society who will take her nonsense seriously.

Tarzana2

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I think the more important question is why is it any of his business.

Because... because, healthcare. As if that's the reason. :rolleyes::pac: People just don't like how it looks, that's it really. It's a visible vice that people carry on their person. Like smoking is a visible vice that people can also admonish. One thing I've learned from my time on AH is that many people will scramble for anything that will make them in some way feel superior.

Tarzana2

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I read the article, I really wish I hadn't wasted my time tbh. There was no science in there, merely opinion based on twisting of statistics.

She links to an article that cites a number of scientific studies.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/why-being-overweight-means-you-live-longer-the-way-scientists-twist-the-facts-10158229.html

Her own views are suspect but there is indeed science there.

theboy1

There is no reason to be obese. You have to be extremely lazy and weak willed.

Just Be Yourself

I hate this fat acceptance bull****. Only in the greedy, corrupt west could such a thing even exist. I hope the whole rotten structure comes falling down soon. There won't be any fat acceptance when the Mcdonalds disappear and people suddenly have to provide their own food.

Tarzana2

theboy1 wrote: »

There is no reason to be obese. You have to be extremely lazy and weak willed.

Oh well.

Just Be Yourself

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Oh well.

What? Are you saying he's wrong?

UCDVet

theboy1 wrote: »

Because it is honestly and their health problems take money out my pocket.

Also the fact it is easy to not be obese.

It's easy not to eat meat.
It's easy not to drink alcohol.
It's easy not to miss church every Sunday.
It's easy not to drive a car.
It's easy not to smoke.
It's easy not to gamble.
It's easy not to watch porn.
It's easy not to swear.
It's easy not to eat sweats.
It's easy not to consume caffeine.

It's an endless list. The whole point of being an individual is deciding whether or not you WANT to do something. I don't drink caffeine, I don't smoke - but those are my choices. They aren't 'better' or 'worse' than the choice to do those things.

Being fat is no different. There is nothing wrong with choosing highly enjoyable foods over maintaining a certain body size. Are there health risks - absolutely. But there are health risks associated with everything, running marathons is BAD FOR YOU - but we let people do that. Drinking is bad for you too, but it sure is fun.

Finally, I'm not even convinced that fat people do cost more in health care.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/03/22/alcohol-obesity-and-smoking-do-not-cost-health-care-systems-money/

The lifetime costs were in Euros:

Healthy: 281,000
Obese: 250,000
Smokers: 220,000

Obese people cost less. Smoking is a great deal for our healthcare system. The 'REAL' problem is healthy people who want to live forever....but I don't hold that against them.

More choice, not less, (in my opinion) is what we need.

The Diabolical Monocle

memory test was based on remembering where the biscuits were.

Kermit.de.frog

I can't get fat. My body maintains perfect irresistible form to the females no matter how much I eat.

I'm not complaining, i'm just sayin I eat a lot too.