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This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    I think he wanted 800 for the Maestro then which was ludicrous money. If I had the cash I'd seriously buy it for the lolz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    I think he wanted 800 for the Maestro then which was ludicrous money. If I had the cash I'd seriously buy it for the lolz

    That sounds about right, the Safrane was 600 iirc.

    Given I missed out on a mint Safrane a few weeks previously that had nct & tax that went for less I wasn't biting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    w124man wrote: »
    I drove the first Maestro prototype out of its assembly bay back in early '78 !!
    Jealousy doesn't describe my feelings right now :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭w124man


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Jealousy doesn't describe my feelings right now :cool:

    Did I really post that?

    Anyway there were two SEP's (SEP 4 & 5) made at the same time and they didnt look a bit like the finished article! The first SEP's were Allegros with proper suspension.


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭winnie the schtink


    i sold a good few of these maestros to a fella down in wicklow,he was converting them to diesel as apparently they have a golf gearbox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    i sold a good few of these maestros to a fella down in wicklow,he was converting them to diesel as apparently they have a golf gearbox

    How long ago was that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    off topic but...
    I remember watching a program about UK reps and their company cars.
    One guy when asked about his Diesel Maestro burst into tears and sobbed "the company has basically pulled down their pants and shlt on me!":eek:

    You couldn't argue in fairness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    off topic but...
    I remember watching a program about UK reps and their company cars.
    One guy when asked about his Diesel Maestro burst into tears and sobbed "the company has basically pulled down their pants and shlt on me!":eek:

    You couldn't argue in fairness.

    I remember watching that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭welder



    Wish I'd seen that a few weeks ago to reshell my racing Maestro....before I sent it out for extensive welding and bodywork !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,816 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    off topic but...
    I remember watching a program about UK reps and their company cars.
    One guy when asked about his Diesel Maestro burst into tears and sobbed "the company has basically pulled down their pants and shlt on me!":eek:

    You couldn't argue in fairness.

    Here it is :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭w124man


    i sold a good few of these maestros to a fella down in wicklow,he was converting them to diesel as apparently they have a golf gearbox

    They didnt have a Golf gearbox but if I was to say that there were a lot of Golfs in the Longbridge prototype shop around that time you might follow the drift. We had the first GTI Golf in the UK at the time. It was a very early LHD car and was such an amazing experience to get behind the wheel of something like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭winnie the schtink


    just did a bit of googling and they had a vw gearbox for sure as did the montego,no secret just bought in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭w124man


    just did a bit of googling and they had a vw gearbox for sure as did the montego,no secret just bought in

    It was a licensed copy of the VW tranny, the casing was bought from the same factory and some of the internals were the same and it was to be assembled off site. I left in 1980 so never saw them on the assembly line. They also had a licence on the rear torsion beam for production. Some the early prototypes used one straight out of the VW parts bin along with the front bottom arms and struts. They wanted to make a car that handled like an Alfasud, was a comfy as a Citroen GS and built like a Golf. It didn't happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Idnes


    Hi Lads,

    just wonder anyone know anything about that Skoda from sixties in Tipperary at Three Bridges motors?? Its sitting there for long time now. Looks like interesting machine,whats d parts suply and general knowledge of them??


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    welder wrote: »
    Wish I'd seen that a few weeks ago to reshell my racing Maestro....before I sent it out for extensive welding and bodywork !

    If you are looking for clean rust free maestro shells, look in the south of Spain. Some were reg'ed there as late as '01. And all in white. You see the odd one driving around still.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    w124man wrote: »
    It didn't happen.
    Understatement of the year ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,634 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    w124man wrote: »
    It was a licensed copy of the VW tranny, the casing was bought from the same factory and some of the internals were the same and it was to be assembled off site. I left in 1980 so never saw them on the assembly line. They also had a licence on the rear torsion beam for production. Some the early prototypes used one straight out of the VW parts bin along with the front bottom arms and struts. They wanted to make a car that handled like an Alfasud, was a comfy as a Citroen GS and built like a Golf. It didn't happen.

    Indeed it didn't, I only drove one once, and its a long time ago, but I'm fairly sure they achieved NONE of those aims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭hamburg


    w124man wrote: »
    They didnt have a Golf gearbox but if I was to say that there were a lot of Golfs in the Longbridge prototype shop around that time you might follow the drift. We had the first GTI Golf in the UK at the time. It was a very early LHD car and was such an amazing experience to get behind the wheel of something like that.
    just wondering, do all manufacturers do this? buy their rivals models and take them apart to see what makes them tick?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    Yep, reverse engineering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    hamburg wrote: »
    just wondering, do all manufacturers do this? buy their rivals models and take them apart to see what makes them tick?

    Of the first 40 Lexus LS400's that were sold in Germany in 1989/90 12 disappeared straight away. A further 5 (or 6) racked up well over 250,000km in the first year.

    They were more than likely purchased by BMW, Mercedes, Audi/VW then stripped down or tested over a year or two.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    hi5 wrote: »
    Yep, reverse engineering.

    Austin rover were the best in the world at this.

    Alas, it was with the 4 forward gears that they fell down. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    Red Kev wrote: »
    Of the first 40 Lexus LS400's that were sold in Germany in 1989/90 12 disappeared straight away. A further 5 (or 6) racked up well over 250,000km in the first year.

    They were more than likely purchased by BMW, Mercedes, Audi/VW then stripped down or tested over a year or two.

    You wonder why they would bother. The Lexus was well known to have been a reverse engineered merc at the time. What differed between them was the manufacturing technology used - how they were put together, and the quality checks during assembly. Europeans didnt cop onto this until the end of the 90's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭John Larkin


    You wonder why they would bother. The Lexus was well known to have been a reverse engineered merc at the time. What differed between them was the manufacturing technology used - how they were put together, and the quality checks during assembly. Europeans didnt cop onto this until the end of the 90's.

    I recall reading an article in Car magazine (I think) in the late 1980s that Mercedes Benz bought four Lexus LS 400 cars when they were introduced and dismantled at least one of them. The magazine quoted a story that MB engineers were examining the bare steel frame of one of the Lexus front seats and pointed out disparagingly that the welds were not polished back as they were in Mercedes cars. One MB engineer had the courage to ask why MB polished hidden welds when it added no material benefit. I seem to recall that the same article claimed that a Lexus LS 400 took about five hundred manhours to manufacture, and the MB S Class took about eleven hundred man-hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭red sean


    Not many Hillman Hunters seem to be knocking around anymore.
    Heres one, 7 years younger than Tom seems to think: http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/hillman-hunter-dl/9409785?offset=10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    red sean wrote: »
    Not many Hillman Hunters seem to be knocking around anymore.
    Heres one, 7 years younger than Tom seems to think: http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/hillman-hunter-dl/9409785?offset=10

    That would make for one brave resotration


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    I recall reading an article in Car magazine (I think) in the late 1980s that Mercedes Benz bought four Lexus LS 400 cars when they were introduced and dismantled at least one of them. The magazine quoted a story that MB engineers were examining the bare steel frame of one of the Lexus front seats and pointed out disparagingly that the welds were not polished back as they were in Mercedes cars. One MB engineer had the courage to ask why MB polished hidden welds when it added no material benefit. I seem to recall that the same article claimed that a Lexus LS 400 took about five hundred manhours to manufacture, and the MB S Class took about eleven hundred man-hours.

    I wonder if that conversation had any connection to the perceived drop in build quality of the 90s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus




  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭winnie the schtink


    no ,but i'd like to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    Price is strong enough for a late model with no test.

    I had a 92 1.1 Campus a year or two ago, was a great car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,816 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Ha, I suggested this car to someone looking for an older Renault on the for sale / wanted sticky last night at about the same time you started this thread :)

    Hasn't been NCTd for a few years but I really like the looks of it. Great colour and very low mileage. If it needs little / no work the asking price isn't too bad imho. You're likely to get a few hundred off with haggling anyway. Keep us posted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭kev1.3s


    I think that this car used to belong to an uncle of mine 7/8 years ago who coincidently is named John, at that time he bought the car to put on the road and it needed nothing but for one reason or another he never did, if it is the same car it is very tidy but if the john who is selling it is the same john it hasn't been on the road for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    I suspect it hasn't been anywhere near a road in years and I also suspect that price is negotiable. I haven't annoyed the seller with a call yet. It's been up and down off donedeal for a while now but as it's the end of the school year and I'm flat out with leaving cert students and making exams I haven't the time to go and look at it. If it's still there in June then I'll pop round. Not having a trailer however is a proper pain in the neck as is having a tiny budget for the next car :mad:


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Not having a trailer however is a proper pain in the neck saving me from myself.

    FTFY :pac::D

    Don't do it! It's not as if it's a Monaco.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    macplaxton wrote: »
    FTFY :pac::D

    Don't do it! It's not as if it's a Monaco.:p
    I need saving from myself at times. I have empty sheds, no cars in them and a wedding in 12 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Seems these ads are getting *slightly* smarter about selling logbooks and donedeal aren't removing them when reported.

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/vw-beetle-back-end-with-brown-book/9448240?offset=10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭CianDon


    http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-mk2-1984/9446888?offset=26

    She looks like a mint enough wee car but with no mention of Tax or Test this is a mad wee sentence is crazy "Priced to sell: 3385.00 or 2250 for 24 hours only"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    CianDon wrote: »
    http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-mk2-1984/9446888?offset=26

    She looks like a mint enough wee car but with no mention of Tax or Test this is a mad wee sentence is crazy "Priced to sell: 3385.00 or 2250 for 24 hours only"

    I don't know if they are worth €2250 yet but I'd say they are creeping that way. But I hate that messing about with the price. You'd have to deserve it to be fooled by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭oceanman


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Seems these ads are getting *slightly* smarter about selling logbooks and donedeal aren't removing them when reported.

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/vw-beetle-back-end-with-brown-book/9448240?offset=10
    its his logbook to do what he wants with!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭kev1.3s


    oceanman wrote: »
    its his logbook to do what he wants with!

    Not that I really want to get into this because it's an issue that takes up way too much time in here and I couldn't give a šhite what he does with the log book but it's not his log book to do what he wants with, it's a legal document which belongs to the government that's supposed to be returned when the car is scrapped.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    oceanman wrote: »
    its his logbook to do what he wants with!
    kev1.3s wrote: »
    Not that I really want to get into this because it's an issue that takes up way too much time in here and I couldn't give a šhite what he does with the log book but it's not his log book to do what he wants with, it's a legal document which belongs to the government that's supposed to be returned when the car is scrapped.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    I don't know if this is a classic or a bargain but I still think it's worthy of inclusion

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-like-new-59k/9424572?offset=2

    41702643.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭kyote00


    Comes with 256k Ram :D

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/rare-sinclair-c5-electric-pedal-car/9462787?offset=2

    (in 30 years time, this thread will be drooling over Nissan Leaf .... )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭CianDon


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    I don't know if this is a classic or a bargain but I still think it's worthy of inclusion

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-like-new-59k/9424572?offset=2

    41702643.jpeg

    To be fair from looking at that it's almost as close as you'll get to a brand new 25 year old car. The thing is immaculate from the pics and I wouldn think the price is too far off really


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    kyote00 wrote: »
    (in 30 years time, this thread will be drooling over Nissan Leaf .... )
    Not a chance! Mild curiously is the default reaction to 20 year old cars... to elicit drool requires some wow-factor above and beyond a bog-standard shopping cart!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    I dunno, in 30 years time a new generation will be reminiscing about the cars of their childhood, for example i have an irrational love of Fiat ritmos and Sierra saphires


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    Dont know about the i30, but the Yaris is a tidy little machine, nippy with decent handling if you felt the urge to push it on also a quirky enough mqchine to be interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭Thinkingaboutit


    CianDon wrote: »
    http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-mk2-1984/9446888?offset=26

    She looks like a mint enough wee car but with no mention of Tax or Test this is a mad wee sentence is crazy "Priced to sell: 3385.00 or 2250 for 24 hours only"

    Vendor is taking drugs for shure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭w124man


    kyote00 wrote: »

    (in 30 years time, this thread will be drooling over Nissan Leaf .... )

    Family history dictates that in thirty years time I will miss this event ...... :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    w124man wrote: »
    Family history dictates that in thirty years time I will miss this event ...... :(

    Ah now no need to be pessimistic, medical technology is advancing at a pace which outstrips even our beloved automobiles.

    3D printing will hopefully be so commonplace that a gearbox for a 71 zephyr and a set of kidneys for a 75 galwegian will be around the same price and lead time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭kyote00


    Looks fairly good, Irish reg also....seems to have a princess fetish :D

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/austin-princess/9534327?offset=5


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