This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

Zoo4m8

DakarVert wrote: »

This 1968 Nissan Terano,
https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/monster-minor-2-7-turbo-diesel-4x4/12131903

This gentleman is a regular on DD, quite often oddball stuff and half finished projects like this , I recall a trike and an off-road buggy among other abandoned sh:te, em, I mean jobs..:). Still, I suppose he must get to move them as he keeps coming up with new ways to impress..

Duke O Smiley

Not going to lie...I really like that. Or the idea rather

oceanman

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mgb-electric/12101606


a brave soul!....

unkel

Class! Reminds me of the 100% electric Porsche 928 in the US

225Ah though, that's about 10kWh? Not an awful lot to go around. I'd be surprised if the range would be a lot more than about 20-30km

Still, the asking price seems very reasonable. Wonder would getting insurance be a nightmare?

RobAMerc

this sort of belongs to the I can't believe I didnt buy this thread - but I know there is the motherload of issues coming with this

ad doesn't say much which says a lot, but we do dream !

w124man

You only had one job to do .......


https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/rolls-royce-for-auction/12282910

26000 Elephants

RobAMerc wrote: »

this sort of belongs to the I can't believe I didnt buy this thread - but I know there is the motherload of issues coming with this

ad doesn't say much which says a lot, but we do dream !

Bills worth £10k in 4 years, and only one is a service!! You would be budgeting about 250 euro a month into a fund to cover possible bills. Go into it with that mindset and you would be grand.

But you would need to pay bigger money for a better example. A tatty Bentley will look like any other tatty car. But a clean good one will be depreciation free.

Frankie Lee

Quite a decent looking Super Minx for a reasonable sum of €2200

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1966-hillman-super-minx/12301379

cormie

What kind of speeds could you expect in a motor like that? Looks in very good condition with very low mileage for the age.

Frankie Lee

cormie wrote: »

What kind of speeds could you expect in a motor like that? Looks in very good condition with very low mileage for the age.

I've only ever driven the less powerful mkII with the 1.6l engine which is capable enough which can comfortably cruise at around 55-60mph, the speedometer read a little high though. They are a really nice starter classic though and parts are readily available at cheap prices from the UK still.
A Humber Sceptre would be nicer still though.

Frankie Lee

Maybe too good to be true at first glance, jap import NCT'd CRX in what seems to be good condition for a very reasonable price of €3,150. He has the mileage down as 65000kms but corrects himself in the man body.
https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1991-honda-crx-1-5cc-nct-tax/12000520

Esel

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Maybe too good to be true at first glance, jap import NCT'd CRX in what seems to be good condition for a very reasonable price of €3,150. He has the mileage down as 65000kms but corrects himself in the man body.
https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1991-honda-crx-1-5cc-nct-tax/12000520

65K miles is 104K km, not 137K or 134K (both mentioned in ad text). 137K km is 85+K miles...

Wibbs

these can hide the years and mileage extremely well and as an import unless it comes with the Japanese auction report/export documents then you can near guarantee the milage is "inventive". Not by the current owner or seller BTW, I mean at the first point of contact with the Irish Jap import industry back in the day. They were pretty much always rolled back.

That said, so long as the car looks good, these things are bulletproof and still pretty handy in standard spec. The big thing is rust. If it has the tin worm, brace yourself for bills. Large ones if done correctly. The usual HOnda of this era trouble spots; wheel arches, but particularly rear, were the engine bulkhead meets the floorpan, bottom of doors, sills, roof.

Wibbs

Actually when I looked at the Classic Honda section there were a couple of nice ones. This little 83 Civic caught my eye.



OK not nearly as glam or fast or any of that as the Rex, but cute as hell and in fantastic time capsule condition. The 93 Prelude with only 17,000 miles on the clock and an original Irish car to boot looked good too.

Seweryn

The Hondas are great. There is another CRX in blue. Not sure if worth looking, but does not look bad and is probably original.

That Prelude is a lovely find. I saw this one advertised some time ago. Unfortunately our anti-car insurance and tax makes it a tough choice for heroes.
They drive really nicely. I have the second generation one with a manual gearbox and like it a lot.

Wibbs

Seweryn wrote: »

That Prelude is a lovely find. I saw this one advertised some time ago. Unfortunately our anti-car insurance and tax makes it a tough choice for heroes.

They're a lovely car to drive alright. Very reliable too. Goes for many Japanese cars of that general era, real problems with rust and the lack of security built in their biggest issues.

The insurance on the Lude would likely make you wince. A lot. And then cry. What I have to pay for a 98 Honda makes me murderous and bloody angry. They really don't want those cars on the road. You can see that reflected in the different values between here and our neighbours in the UK. Such cars are nearly always noticeably cheaper here(and a fair number have made the trip across the Irish sea on the back of that).

pryantcc

How about an 8 wheel drive truck that only has 6 wheels? Well, 7 including the steering wheel, maybe the spare counts as the 8th?!
https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/hino-300-series-thorny-croft-truck/6131626

cormie

Would you need to get them through the DOE before being road legal? :eek:

DakarVert

cormie wrote: »

Would you need to get them through the DOE before being road legal? :eek:

All commercials need a DOE. Majority don't bother though.... One of those Irish things, Twill be grand sure.

Testacalda

DakarVert wrote: »

Twill be grand sure.

...until they have a traffic accident :rolleyes:

Then...

Caddyman

Why would you take photos of a black car in the dark??

I can think of a few reasons but could it be that the seller doesn't want you to actually see the car all that well!





https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/pontiac-firebird/12370993

elperello

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/new-renault-19-only-96-miles/12441703

Here's a very unusual one. There must be a good story behind this!

DakarVert

Parked for 20 odd years and he drove it home 8 miles??


Brave man! I'd have pushed it onto a trailer and at least changed the oil first!

Long Time Lurker

elperello wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/new-renault-19-only-96-miles/12441703

Here's a very unusual one. There must be a good story behind this!

Now I'm not 100% sure on this one, so don't shoot me down, but the fact that it's never been registered before - at all - could have serious repercussions for anybody who buys that car. There are E.U. regulations surrounding safety and emissions regarding deadlines on when vehicles can be registered. Vehicles which are manufactured after a specific date must meet those regulations or they're not allowed to be registered in the E.U. If this vehicle was never before registered in any E.U. jurisdiction then I seriously doubt it'll ever be allowed on the road now at all. If it had already been registered then that's fine but because its never been legally registered anywhere before its technically a new car and it sure as hell doesn't meet any of todays current legislation too allow it to be registered.

DakarVert

Not sure about here, But prove its age in the UK and it'll get an age related plate.

Long Time Lurker

DakarVert wrote: »

Not sure about here, But prove its age in the UK and it'll get an age related plate.

You see I don't think so because its not a used vehicle, its a new vehicle which has never been registered before. That's the problem, the year of manufacture is irrelevant. Its the date of first registration which determines the cars date of birth. This car for all intents and purposes is a brand new car. It wouldn't even meet Euro I regs nevermind todays:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards

There's something very peculiar about having a car in storage without it ever being registered. Only distributors or dealers (with TAN numbers in the south) are allowed to do this. The vehicle must have been sold by a dealer at some point. Was the car a training vehicle with no intention of ever being used on the public roads. Such cars do exist and never see out side of the mine shaft.

Duke O Smiley

DakarVert wrote: »

Not sure about here, But prove its age in the UK and it'll get an age related plate.

If they cannot definitely 100 per cent prove what year it is it'll get a Q plate

26000 Elephants

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Now I'm not 100% sure on this one, so don't shoot me down, but the fact that it's never been registered before - at all - could have serious repercussions for anybody who buys that car. There are E.U. regulations surrounding safety and emissions regarding deadlines on when vehicles can be registered. Vehicles which are manufactured after a specific date must meet those regulations or they're not allowed to be registered in the E.U. If this vehicle was never before registered in any E.U. jurisdiction then I seriously doubt it'll ever be allowed on the road now at all. If it had already been registered then that's fine but because its never been legally registered anywhere before its technically a new car and it sure as hell doesn't meet any of todays current legislation too allow it to be registered.

Log book 'restorations' were invented to deal with bureaucratic nonsense such as this.

Notch000

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Log book 'restorations' were invented to deal with bureaucratic nonsense such as this.

please explain what this mean, 'a Friend of mine' is in a very similiar situation with a 2000 reg car sat in a garage for last 16yrs unregistered. delivery milage & plastic on the seat (MG TF). it was never registered or duty paid. Long story. i see plenty of them for sale now for small money & think that this car will never really be a very desirable. classic. if it was an Mx5 would be a very different story

26000 Elephants

^ Tongue in cheek reference to a common fraud here with classic cars. Not meant seriously.

I'd say your friends MG will be infinitely more valuable if it remains unregistered.

As for registering it, I'd say you would have no hassle - contact revenue and explain the situation and see what they say. I'm pretty certain that its original type approval is still valid. But I'd wager that you will be paying VRT based on the original list price - which might not be a good idea. :mad:

Wrap in a woolly blanket and park it in a dry shed.:) These will be more valuable in years to come - especially a factory fresh example.