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US Police Shoot Unarmed Black male 8 times in the back

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭wilhelm roentgen


    Another cop shooting, but this time the cop is being charged with murder.

    There is a video that is NSFW. It does not play automatically, so you can read the article without watching the video of the shooting.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/07/officer-michael-slager-shoots-man-in-back-video_n_7021134.html



    This is shocking and very disturbing, how could the PO feel threatened by a man running away?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Another cop shooting, but this time the cop is being charged with murder.

    There is a video that is NSFW. It does not play automatically, so you can read the article without watching the video of the shooting.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/07/officer-michael-slager-shoots-man-in-back-video_n_7021134.html

    This one at least seems to be pretty cut and dried. That poor man; shot for running away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    The Americans still seem to be having terrible difficulty getting over slavery within their municipal authorities.

    This is insane.

    I was in New York in 2005 and had an incident with a chap who basically attempted to rob me. I actually managed to speak to a police officer no later than 10 minutes after and he asked me for a description. All fine. He said ok sir, thank you, and then proceeded to radio it in as a 'Officer abc, report of a young male, described as 6"1" caucasian, attempted robbery, white basketball shirt, blue cap, demanded money, potentially a black guy in disguise'

    I left it at that. Said I'm grand, that I just wanted to let him know. I didnt want to file a report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    This is shocking and very disturbing, how could the PO feel threatened by a man running away?

    that's just unreal :eek:


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    kylith wrote: »
    This one at least seems to be pretty cut and dried. That poor man; shot for running away.

    I guarantee you will still get people saying "you don't want to get shot, then don't run".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    This is shocking and very disturbing, how could the PO feel threatened by a man running away?

    he could have been running home to get his gun :rolleyes:


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    I'm surprised officer "kill 'em all, let god sort 'em out" didn't claim the tried and trusted excuse that he stopped running, turned and "reached for something in his belt".

    Isn't that what these guys always claim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Egginacup wrote: »
    I'm surprised officer "kill 'em all, let god sort 'em out" didn't claim the tried and trusted excuse that he stopped running, turned and "reached for something in his belt".

    Is that what these guys always claim?

    This time he got to try out the 'he stole my tazer' excuse. Thankfully it's not going well for him.

    Didn't they introduce individual cameras on cops in the UK and immediately see a massive drop in reports of police misconduct?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,961 ✭✭✭buried


    Thread should be re-named "American Law enforcement Shoots unarmed citizen thread". Literally seems to be one of these incidents every few weeks now.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭TommyOM


    And not only that, the video shows the officer planting his taser gun next to the victim. If I was a black man in the US I would be utterly terrified whenever the police stopped me. This is shocking footage..

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/white-police-officer-charged-in-us-after-black-man-shot-dead-1.2168048


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,776 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    kylith wrote: »
    This time he got to try out the 'he stole my tazer' excuse. Thankfully it's not going well for him.

    Didn't they introduce individual cameras on cops in the UK and immediately see a massive drop in reports of police misconduct?

    Think he needs a better excsue for shooting someone eight times as he's running away from you.

    As you said, thankfully this one looks like it will see justice.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    In the US?? Are you sure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    This incident might be more extreme than previous but the sentiment behind it is the same. Love of guns and casual racism in some of America's deep south.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    Fired 8 shots. 3 missed. Shot in the back 5 times when running away. Police officer said he was "in fear of his life". Good job they got it on camera.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,606 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    To serve and protect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    You can then see him plant the taser next to the body. Clearly murder no question about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    What's the bet he'll get off with a lighter sentence than he should?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,725 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    What's the bet he'll get off with a lighter sentence than he should?

    Id think given the video they'll throw the book at him
    Tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    TommyOM wrote: »
    If I was a black man in the US I would be utterly terrified whenever the police stopped me.

    That's a bit sensationalist now...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    What's the bet he'll get off with a lighter sentence than he should?

    I'd say they'll hammer him. Death penalty in that state?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    It would've read better if you left the "8 times" at the end of the thread title OP.











    With a pause.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Yeah he definitely needed to put the handcuffs on him after that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I'd say they'll hammer him. Death penalty in that state?
    No they wont. Why did the guy make a run for it? There's always more to these stories than meets the eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭tigger123


    smash wrote: »
    That's a bit sensationalist now...

    Is it though? He shot at him and 8 times, as he was running away, 5 shots hit him. Then tried to cover it up afterwards.

    He clearly thought he could get away with murdering him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    smash wrote: »
    No they wont. Why did the guy make a run for it? There's always more to these stories than meets the eye.

    The thing to focus on is the running away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    smash wrote: »
    No they wont. Why did the guy make a run for it? There's always more to these stories than meets the eye.

    He made a run for it apparantly because there were alimony payments missing so some bench warrants were outstanding. Not a reason to kill a chap.

    We need an American forum for this kind of stuff. General american stuff. Not just politics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Is it though? He shot at him and 8 times, as he was running away, 5 shots hit him. Then tried to cover it up afterwards.

    He clearly thought he could get away with murdering him.

    Honestly I'm getting tired of hearing "Black man in the ghetto murdered by white police officer". It's just like the whole "Garda assaults water meter protester" stuff... there's always more to the story.

    If it's as it seems then yea, he needs to go down, but without knowing the real facts lets just leave it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,517 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Running away ? the guy seemed to be going at a snails pace. Complete over reaction by the Cop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    smash wrote: »
    Honestly I'm getting tired of hearing "Black man in the ghetto murdered by white police officer". It's just like the whole "Garda assaults water meter protester" stuff... there's always more to the story.

    If it's as it seems then yea, he needs to go down, but without knowing the real facts lets just leave it out.

    No lets not. We see the same thing from this country again and again. The same country yet excuses are given every time.
    Since you're fond of facts here's the police version of events:

    'Police in a matter of hours declared the occurrence at the corner of Remount and Craig roads a traffic stop gone wrong, alleging the dead man fought with an officer over his Taser before deadly force was employed.'
    This is odd given the altercation took place in a park.
    'A statement released by North Charleston police spokesman Spencer Pryor said a man ran on foot from the traffic stop and an officer deployed his department-issued Taser in an attempt to stop him.
    That did not work, police said, and an altercation ensued as the men struggled over the device. Police allege that during the struggle the man gained control of the Taser and attempted to use it against the officer.
    The officer then resorted to his service weapon and shot him, police alleged.'


    Sorry guys here's the link I got it from.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears


    TommyOM wrote: »
    . If I was a black man in the US I would be utterly terrified whenever the police stopped me.


    You'd be absolutely right to be.

    I mean your chances of getting shot must be 1 in millions.

    I'd also be worried about being struck by lightening and eaten by a shark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    smash wrote: »
    Honestly I'm getting tired of hearing "Black man in the ghetto murdered by white police officer"

    Is that because its happening so frequently then?


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Think he needs a better excsue for shooting someone eight times as he's running away from you.

    As you said, thankfully this one looks like it will see justice.

    I've seen cops roughly restraining a guy on the ground. They are shouting at him "stop resisting! stop going for my gun! stop resisting! stop going for my gun!" except they're fucking reciting these lines. The guy isn't resisting. His body is just reacting in the normal way to pain....you know, spasms, muscle tension and jerks in response to suffering. Also his hands are pinned against the concrete and nowhere near anyone's gun or not even capable of moving.

    These creeps are now setting the stage, i.e. ordering someone to stop doing something that he's not doing so that if they decided to kill him they can claim he was doing what they were ordering him not to do.

    These assholes think we're stupid.

    "Look he MUST have been reaching for my gun. You heard me ordering him to stop, didn't you?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    You'd be absolutely right to be.

    I mean your chances of getting shot must be 1 in millions.

    I'd also be worried about being struck by lightening and eaten by a shark.

    Yea, but you wont be eaten by a shark while walking down the street, or stuck by lightening on a clear sunny day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭daUbiq


    A black mans life is worth little or nothing to racist cops in Amerika. How many other murders like this have happened were no one could record what actually happened?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭BlimpyBoy


    smash wrote: »
    Honestly I'm getting tired of hearing "Black man in the ghetto murdered by white police officer". It's just like the whole "Garda assaults water meter protester" stuff... there's always more to the story.

    If it's as it seems then yea, he needs to go down, but without knowing the real facts lets just leave it out.

    Have you watched the video? You can see what happened for yourself.

    The guy was running away and got five bullets in his back for no good reason.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Since you're fond of facts here's the police version of events:

    'Police in a matter of hours declared the occurrence at the corner of Remount and Craig roads a traffic stop gone wrong, alleging the dead man fought with an officer over his Taser before deadly force was employed.'

    This is odd given the altercation took place in a park.

    'A statement released by North Charleston police spokesman Spencer Pryor said a man ran on foot from the traffic stop and an officer deployed his department-issued Taser in an attempt to stop him.
    That did not work, police said, and an altercation ensued as the men struggled over the device. Police allege that during the struggle the man gained control of the Taser and attempted to use it against the officer.

    The officer then resorted to his service weapon and shot him, police alleged.'

    the article states:
    "The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr Scott turns to run."

    So there was a fight over the taser which had already been deployed and this is where the footage begins. A taser can only be used once so when the guy realised that he couldn't tase the cop, he ran and the cop pulled his gun. He calls it in immediately, I don't see him dropping anything by the body in the footage and after another cop turns up on the scene you can still see the taser in the background on the path where the initial scuffle took place.
    BlimpyBoy wrote: »
    Have you watched the video? You can see what happened for yourself.

    The guy was running away and got five bullets in his back for no good reason.
    He tried to grab and use the cop's taser on the cop, and then ran away and didn't stop when asked... Did you expect the cop to just let him go? I admit the cop should have shot him in the leg if he was going to shoot at all but lets face it, 5 shots out of 8 made contact so he's clearly a crap aim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Yea, but you wont be eaten by a shark while walking down the street, or stuck by lightening on a clear sunny day.

    Or shot by the cops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Incidents like this makes you wonder how many times cops have got away with it because no-one was filming them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭califano


    He seemed ok when arrested. I wonder did they give him a going over in the cells later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears


    daUbiq wrote: »
    How many other murders like this have happened were no one could record what actually happened?

    Four?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭daUbiq


    smash wrote: »
    the article states:
    "The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr Scott turns to run."

    So there was a fight over the taser which had already been deployed and this is where the footage begins. A taser can only be used once so when the guy realised that he couldn't tase the cop, he ran and the cop pulled his gun. He calls it in immediately, I don't see him dropping anything by the body in the footage and after another cop turns up on the scene you can still see the taser in the background on the path where the initial scuffle took place.

    Absolutely does not justify shooting him dead. Why not shoot him once in the leg?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    Police officer when asked why he shot him in the back responded:

    "If he wanted to be shot in the front, he should have ran towards me"

    Case dismissed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    smash wrote: »
    the article states:
    "The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr Scott turns to run."

    So there was a fight over the taser which had already been deployed and this is where the footage begins. A taser can only be used once so when the guy realised that he couldn't tase the cop, he ran and the cop pulled his gun. He calls it in immediately, I don't see him dropping anything by the body in the footage and after another cop turns up on the scene you can still see the taser in the background on the path where the initial scuffle took place.


    Wrong tazer can be used multiple times including after barbs have been deployed.

    The tazer can be used by placing the device up against ones body and it works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭BlimpyBoy


    califano wrote: »
    He seemed ok when arrested. I wonder did they give him a going over in the cells later.

    He was dead by the time they put the cuffs on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    This case, shows the need for Police to wear camera's. It will protect the both the innocent and the guilty, so if a cop does something wrong they will be caught, and if a suspect makes a false claim the cop will have proof of there innocence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Wrong tazer can be used multiple times including after barbs have been deployed.

    The tazer can be used by placing the device up against ones body and it works.

    No really much use when your suspect is running away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭daUbiq


    wes wrote: »
    This case, shows the need for Police to wear camera's. It will protect the both the innocent and the guilty, so if a cop does something wrong they will be caught, and if a suspect makes a false claim the cop will have proof of there innocence.

    Sounds reasonable but this is a country where reason means very little and rarely enters into the decision making process...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Or shot by the cops.

    Well quite a few seem to be getting shot by cops these days. Not many eaten by sharks while walking the streets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    galljga1 wrote: »
    Police officer when asked why he shot him in the back responded:

    "If he wanted to be shot in the front, he should have ran towards me"

    Case dismissed.

    Indeed. You have to wonder about the intelligence of the cops.


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